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post #3901 of 4173
I've discovered a glitch when trying to set my DirecTV DVR....

Since WKRG airs "The Big Bang Theory" as a CBS program as well as a syndicated show, my DVR cannot tell the difference between the two shows. I want to record only the CBS version, but my DVR will record all episodes airing on WKRG....recording over the shows I tell it to keep because I limit it to only keeping 5 episodes. I've temporarily fixed the problem by setting the show to record only the "First Run" episodes, which means that no shows will record when the episodes go into repeats.

However, on WEAR, they run "Grey's Anatomy" as an ABC show and a syndicated show on Sunday nights. I don't have this problem with this show.
It only records the network version without having to jump through the hoops that I have to do with Big Bang.

Is there something that WKRG or DirecTV (or the listing service) should be doing to prevent this? Is anyone else having a similar problem with other providers as well?
post #3902 of 4173
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Originally Posted by esdx View Post

I've discovered a glitch when trying to set my DirecTV DVR....

Since WKRG airs "The Big Bang Theory" as a CBS program as well as a syndicated show, my DVR cannot tell the difference between the two shows. I want to record only the CBS version, but my DVR will record all episodes airing on WKRG....recording over the shows I tell it to keep because I limit it to only keeping 5 episodes. I've temporarily fixed the problem by setting the show to record only the "First Run" episodes, which means that no shows will record when the episodes go into repeats.

However, on WEAR, they run "Grey's Anatomy" as an ABC show and a syndicated show on Sunday nights. I don't have this problem with this show.
It only records the network version without having to jump through the hoops that I have to do with Big Bang.

Is there something that WKRG or DirecTV (or the listing service) should be doing to prevent this? Is anyone else having a similar problem with other providers as well?

AFAIK, the only way to fix this is to do a manual record for the timeslot you want to record, just like in VCR days. You can set to record every Thursday 7:00-7:30 PM and it will show up on your playlist as "Manual: The Big Bang Theory". Of course, this won't address stunt scheduling like the show running a few minutes over (a problem you will have with Grey's Anatomey) or if the show airs extra episodes at different times/days.
post #3903 of 4173
Hey guys maybe you can help me out here. I live in Foley Alabama zip 36535 and have antenna. I get all of the channels except for nbc channel 15 and fox channel 10..

I have and standard rabbit ears. What antenna do you recommend. I would like something simple.

Do you think the clip on dish antenna will work

Please help thanks
post #3904 of 4173
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Originally Posted by sat-tv View Post

Hey guys maybe you can help me out here. I live in Foley Alabama zip 36535 and have antenna. I get all of the channels except for nbc channel 15 and fox channel 10..

I have and standard rabbit ears. What antenna do you recommend. I would like something simple.

Do you think the clip on dish antenna will work

Please help thanks

Do you know if that clip on antenna is amplified? I'm 99% sure it'll get everything but Fox 10 if it isn't, but if it is it should get 10 as well.

Surprising that you're having trouble with 15; its the easiest thing for me and I'm just north of Foley. WALA and WEIQ are the only two I struggle with and I've got set top rabbit ears in the living room. In a bedroom I'm using an old whip from a Chrysler hooked up with alligator clips (!) and it actually pulls in everything, including Fox 10, at 100%. Really your rabbit ears should be sufficient, especially if they are amplified. Can you try moving them around a bit? The higher you can put them the better your reception will be.
post #3905 of 4173
yes channel 15 is blue I tried moving antenna around and rescon. Nothing.

I will try again tonight. What antenna would be best for picking this up
post #3906 of 4173
I have the 100 element RS outdoor antenna and am 35 miles from the towers. Get 100 percent on all except Fox 10 about 88. It is on a 20 foot pole.
post #3907 of 4173
Panama City's WPGX has received a permit to increase their coverage area. The boost will be from 2.3 kW at 466 feet to 24.1 kW at 712 feet.

As everyone knows WPGX runs on RF channel 9, same as WALA in Mobile. This puts FWB and Destin in between the two signals. The power boost looks like it was exacerbate that a little, and will extend the 36 dBu contour plot almost all the way to Destin.

It'll be interesting to see if this has any affect on reception of either station out there in "Fox no man's land".
post #3908 of 4173
I sure wish Fox would do something with theirs so i could get it in west mobile.
post #3909 of 4173
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Originally Posted by AtDaBeach View Post

I sure wish Fox would do something with theirs so i could get it in west mobile.

The best possible solution would be for WALA to move to UHF like everyone else, but that's a big ol' mess of money and we all known LIN ain't coming off a penny if they can help it. It's likely the only reason they went with VHF after the digital transition was to reuse the antenna from the analog 10 days.
post #3910 of 4173
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Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post

The best possible solution would be for WALA to move to UHF like everyone else, but that's a big ol' mess of money and we all known LIN ain't coming off a penny if they can help it. It's likely the only reason they went with VHF after the digital transition was to reuse the antenna from the analog 10 days.

WFNA and WALA should swap frequencies....keeping the PSIPs the same. This way, everybody can pick up a station they want to watch and nobody can pick up a station that nobody watches!
post #3911 of 4173
Watched bones and then kitchen nightmares, bones was stereo and nightmares was DD 5.1. Does that sound right? Watched on Dish HD.
post #3912 of 4173
It is really me or... FOX 10 is nearly turning itself into HD...?

Because I saw it when paid programming called Nu-Wave Oven is in HD and it's 16:9.

Don't y'all think?
post #3913 of 4173
^When was the advertisement broadcast? It could have been from the FOX Broadcasting Company as part of their Saturday morning paid programming block.
post #3914 of 4173
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Originally Posted by Mario500 View Post

^When was the advertisement broadcast? It could have been from the FOX Broadcasting Company as part of their Saturday morning paid programming block.

I see the reason... My bad.:-P

BTW... If FOX 10 aqquired 19:6 format of WoF, Jeopardy, and other few shows; would they ever put it letter boxed while it's still in 4:3?
post #3915 of 4173
^I don't know how they would display syndicated programs produced in the 16:9 aspect ratio for folks receiving programming in standard definition, but they display programs from FOX produced in the same aspect ratio with black bars from top to bottom for these folks.
post #3916 of 4173
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Originally Posted by Mario500 View Post

^I don't know how they would display syndicated programs produced in the 16:9 aspect ratio for folks receiving programming in standard definition, but they display programs from FOX produced in the same aspect ratio with black bars from top to bottom for these folks.

What to do with content for each screen size has been a bugaboo for stations, hasn't it?

I don't know if APT still does this, but for a long time 4:3 viewers got letterboxed versions of 16:9 programs, and windowboxed (black on all four sides!) versions of 4:3 programs. I have a difficult time receiving WEIQ despite the fact I live in Baldwin County and have switched over to WSRE from Pensacola. PQ is better and so is the schedule of high def programming. This style of presentation is a rarity and usually due to having insufficient high def equipment available.

My understanding right now is that the vast majority of syndicated HD content is filmed so it can be center cut for older SD set viewers. This means that people watching Jeopardy!, for example, will not have black bars on a 4:3 feed, they just lose the content around the edges.

This allows those with older sets to have a "full picture" but means those of us with high def sets are basically seeing nothing of importance in our extra wide screen area. Personally, I would rather say "screw the SD people" and let them have letterboxes so we who paid good money for HD sets can make full use of the widescreen aspect ratio. That's how Fox News Channel AND Fox broadcast network do it. They are letterboxed for 4:3 viewers of widescreen content.

But then I don't understand why a few black bars are so annoying to the average teevee viewer. I've always preferred that format for movies, etc. on my 4:3 screens.
post #3917 of 4173
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Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post

What to do with content for each screen size has been a bugaboo for stations, hasn't it?

I don't know if APT still does this, but for a long time 4:3 viewers got letterboxed versions of 16:9 programs, and windowboxed (black on all four sides!) versions of 4:3 programs. I have a difficult time receiving WEIQ despite the fact I live in Baldwin County and have switched over to WSRE from Pensacola. PQ is better and so is the schedule of high def programming. This style of presentation is a rarity and usually due to having insufficient high def equipment available.

Agreed about WSRE having better PQ.

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My understanding right now is that the vast majority of syndicated HD content is filmed so it can be center cut for older SD set viewers. This means that people watching Jeopardy!, for example, will not have black bars on a 4:3 feed, they just lose the content around the edges.

This allows those with older sets to have a "full picture" but means those of us with high def sets are basically seeing nothing of importance in our extra wide screen area. Personally, I would rather say "screw the SD people" and let them have letterboxes so we who paid good money for HD sets can make full use of the widescreen aspect ratio. That's how Fox News Channel AND Fox broadcast network do it. They are letterboxed for 4:3 viewers of widescreen content.

Let the SD viewers eat cake!

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But then I don't understand why a few black bars are so annoying to the average teevee viewer. I've always preferred that format for movies, etc. on my 4:3 screens.

Ditto.
post #3918 of 4173
Black bars are only annoying to me when I have black bars on both sides and the top and bottom on my 16:9,63 inch wide screen.
post #3919 of 4173
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Originally Posted by jerryez View Post

Black bars are only annoying to me when I have black bars on both sides and the top and bottom on my 16:9,63 inch wide screen.

Politely refer to that as "windowboxing", but "postage stamped", "matchboxing" and "gutterboxing" all work.
post #3920 of 4173
Call it what you may, it is still annoying
post #3921 of 4173
Anyone have any input as to why WALA's programming, a lot of it, is in Stereo and not DD?

I see this on Directv and OTA.
post #3922 of 4173
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Originally Posted by AtDaBeach View Post

Anyone have any input as to why WALA's programming, a lot of it, is in Stereo and not DD?

I see this on Directv and OTA.

Cheap owners?
post #3923 of 4173
Hehe.
post #3924 of 4173
When I was watching Seinfeld on Fox10 and commercial breaks came, they just showed the C-Spire commercial in 16:9 in HD.

I think it's really coming true, they are having plans of upgrading it into HD.:-D
post #3925 of 4173
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Originally Posted by kokoroanime View Post

When I was watching Seinfeld on Fox10 and commercial breaks came, they just showed the C-Spire commercial in 16:9 in HD.

I think it's really coming true, they are having plans of upgrading it into HD.:-D

Renee Dials in HD. Are we sure that's a good idea?
post #3926 of 4173
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Originally Posted by kokoroanime View Post

When I was watching Seinfeld on Fox10 and commercial breaks came, they just showed the C-Spire commercial in 16:9 in HD.

I think it's really coming true, they are having plans of upgrading it into HD.:-D

We watched "Fair Game" the other night on Showtime. It's the Valarie Plame - Joe Wilson version of events in the Iraq war build- up. There is a montage of various news anchor teams announcing one of the stories of the hour, and as they progressed, I thought to myself "That looked like Bob Grip". Then my wife shouted out "Hey Wait". She thought she saw the same thing, so we rewound, and lo and behold, the clip is of Bob Grip and Lenise Ligon!! What a surprise!
post #3927 of 4173
Maybe there's a little race going on between WALA and Local 15 to see who can go HD first. Well, race is a bit of an optimistic term, but…

Local 15 has been running local commercials and station promos in HD for a while now.
post #3928 of 4173
Not sure if you guys are talking HD news or HD syndication, but if it is HD news promos, don't get your hopes up. Two stations here in the New Orleans market, Belo's WWL and Hearst's WDSU have been airing beautiful HD news promos for years and the newscasts are 16:9 SD. At least all of the major stations in this area are showing HD syns.
post #3929 of 4173
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Originally Posted by sore_bluto View Post

Not sure if you guys are talking HD news or HD syndication, but if it is HD news promos, don't get your hopes up. Two stations here in the New Orleans market, Belo's WWL and Hearst's WDSU have been airing beautiful HD news promos for years and the newscasts are 16:9 SD. At least all of the major stations in this area are showing HD syns.

Then again, ever since WKRG went HD, and starting doing their promos in HD, the quality of the promos went downhill. They look like they're cut in Imovie, and some of the things they promote are downright hokey....like the news team on the football field, the weather promo where John Nodar is sprayed with a garden hose, and the endless barrage of "gimme 5s"...what the heck happened over there at 5? Are they that desperate to let that garbage air over and over and over again?

Meanwhile over on FOX 10 the promos that they've been running, aren't in HD, but the quality and production values are some of the best I've seen in this market in quite some time. Perhaps Cspire is the lone client willing to pay for HD ads at FOX 10....other ads that air in HD the other stations are usually squished into the 4x3 frame.

15 is most likely to be the next to go HD, especially since they are apparently capapble of producing HD promos. Since the "Big Game" is airing on 15 this year...i'm sure they will be using that to their advantage.
post #3930 of 4173
I wish WKRG-TV would broadcast station identification segments like the one from 1986 I found on YouTube. New segments like that one would be great in high definition.
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