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post #4891 of 5238
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Originally Posted by BenCJedi View Post

Wonder what WKYT will do for the championship games or is that all going to be on ESPN?

My understanding is WKYT has Thursday & Friday games (as SEC Network affil), but WTVQ has Saturday's and Sunday's (as ABC affil).
post #4892 of 5238
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Originally Posted by sam_gordon View Post

My understanding is WKYT has Thursday & Friday games (as SEC Network affil), but WTVQ has Saturday's and Sunday's (as ABC affil).

Yes, as usual, the normal CBS schedule is toast (unless you can get WLKY.)
post #4893 of 5238
Also WLKY has added 32-2 for additional games as of today
post #4894 of 5238
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Originally Posted by jb_ky1 View Post

Also WLKY has added 32-2 for additional games as of today

SOP since they brought the DT online. Multicasting as it was originally meant to be used: part time.
post #4895 of 5238
Who can we contact at WTVQ to protest the effect where they start the feed blurred then it clears up? It's not terrible in today's basketball game, but it's a nightmare in college football. And it's the only station I have out of 400 that does it.
post #4896 of 5238
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Originally Posted by thestaton View Post

Who can we contact at WTVQ to protest the effect where they start the feed blurred then it clears up? It's not terrible in today's basketball game, but it's a nightmare in college football. And it's the only station I have out of 400 that does it.

It is truly horrible, isn't it? So distracting that as a result I try to avoid all programming on WTVQ whenever possible.

I've contacted them before on this, and got a response that they would "look into it." That was 2 years ago. Not to discourage you from doing the same, here are some contact numbers.
post #4897 of 5238
That blur sucks. It is just like when my eyes build up protein deposits and my contacts start drying out in my eyes. It's the same momentary blur effect. I didn't realize it was happening on the broadcast. Thanks for confirming it's not always my eyes.
post #4898 of 5238
Yep. I saw it too. I was assuming it was something D* was doing but apparently not. You can easily see the difference by switching to another ABC station.
post #4899 of 5238
That blur has been going on for years and years probably 20 or more years that I know of it is like it out of focus a smidgen. All of my T.V's over the years. So I know it is not linked to....Oh it is your T.V Scenerio or what ever they want to tell you. I had Zenith Floor Model, Several Sanyos ( which all are still working ) Digital Lifestyles, Poloroid and Emerson heck even a 12" Black and White. They need to do a whole complete equipment overhaul. Or get someone not affiliated with the Station come in and diagnose what their problem really is.
post #4900 of 5238
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Originally Posted by cpcat View Post

You can easily see the difference by switching to another ABC station.

Except for most people it's not easy to switch to another ABC station.
post #4901 of 5238
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Originally Posted by sam_gordon View Post

Except for most people it's not easy to switch to another ABC station.

Living in the fringe does have its advantages.
post #4902 of 5238
Anybody see WTVQ's great coverage special before the game? Do they really think they'll be able to give away all those "Solid Blue" t-shirts? I watched a few minutes and it was very hard to watch. They said in the newspaper they wanted to show off their news people but the picture was so bad you could hardly watch it. On another note, I heard Ryan Lemond on the radio explain the "blurry picture" on TVQ during the game when they switched between cameras. Now that was funny.
post #4903 of 5238
I don't remember the blurry picture going between cameras but coming out of the replay effect to the cameras. Like a dissolve that didn't quite finish.
post #4904 of 5238
A few things are in the pipe with broadcast television and the FCC's desire to end free TV as we know it:

Hundt Comes Clean: Internet Trumps TV

Broadcasters may be charged for spectrum to entice them to revert to SDTV

FCC wants to clear 120 MHz within five years

There goes your free HDTV!

and the cable companies couldn't be happier:

Cable wants money for internet programming

Not that we need to worry about this, it's simply another government takeover. We all are well aware of how much better things could be if the government ran our lives. (hint, start hording beans and rice)
post #4905 of 5238
HDTV4usinky how would you solve the problem of providing more bandwidth so everyone can use their iPhones to access the internet wherever they are?
post #4906 of 5238
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Originally Posted by lexviewer View Post

HDTV4usinky how would you solve the problem of providing more bandwidth so everyone can use their iPhones to access the internet wherever they are?

How about the phone companies use the spectrum they just got on June 12 before crying for more?

- Trip
post #4907 of 5238
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Originally Posted by lexviewer View Post

HDTV4usinky how would you solve the problem of providing more bandwidth so everyone can use their iPhones to access the internet wherever they are?

1. Replace the FCC commissioners with engineers that understand RF (duh)

2. Conduct an inventory of the spectrum

3. Any reduction of TV spectrum must preserve the current 6MHz so that television can broadcast in HD or multichannel or mobile.

4. Inform viewers in outlying areas that currently receive free TV that they will be forced to cable or (more likely) satellite and give them a chance to respond.

5. After a well thought out plan is constructed that minimizes the impact on both broadcasters and rural viewers, compact the spectrum. The best way to do this is to have all stations broadcast from one tower on consecutive channels. I don't have a clue how you would incorporate KET into this plan, they occupy more spectrum in Kentucky than any other broadcaster.

(a) The government needs to reimburse the broadcasters for the cost associated with this rechannel. Expect this to be at least a million bucks per station for retuning the transmitter, replacing the RF system, and replacing the antenna. There will likely be several towers replaced or modified to hold additional antennas due to necessary co-location, along with new lease expenses.

(b) It would be best to maintain a standby tower in each community. Towers fail, transmitters catch fire.... One thing broadcasters currently do very well is provide communications in an emergency.

6. Reduce broadcast power to about 250 kW. This allows for urban reception along with reception at satellite and cable HEs. Force the satellite companies to allow redistribution at distant cable HEs that are no longer able to receive a clean broadcast. There will also be a need to relax the COL rules due to this power reduction.

7. In distant communities, relax rules for broadcast tv repeater systems.

8. The result of compacting spectrum is more "white space" It would be easy to have a smartphone locate itself using its current allotted frequency, and then switch to the new channels that are available in an area.

9. Relax the rules on broadcast TV so that they are more inline with cable and satellite channels. It's silly to "compel" everyone to cable or satellite where nudity and the f bomb are everywhere, while levying fines on broadcast. This "give and take" attitude might make the broadcasters more willing to bend. The current FCC attitude feels much more like "take and take"

Okay I'm not an FCC commissioner, and I haven't thought about this for more than a few minutes, but rushing into a "fix" for anything (broadband, health care, whatever) is a horrible idea. Slow down and think this through!
post #4908 of 5238
Another way to relax the rules that would work well for Kentucky, allow WDKY to turn on the channel 4 transmitter with SD versions of the big 4 networks. If WDKY was permitted to move the channel 4 transmitter to a mountain in SE KY, broadcasting 4 sd channels, many unserved communities would have a chance for free TV reception. Channel 4 is useless to the broadband plan anyway. Cranking our a million watts of channel 31 doesn't do much to improve distant coverage, UHF is pretty much line of sight. There are many ideas to consider, that is why this shouldn't be a simple spectrum grab, but a well thought out plan that leaves room for future ideas that are beyond our current imagination.
post #4909 of 5238
Good points HDTV. I do have doubts about WDKY on VHF channel 4 though.
I live on the east side of Lex off Richmond Rd. and could not receive WDKY on channel 4 but get it fine now.
post #4910 of 5238
I've been working on some ideas about KET (obviously)... The East transmitters are all below 30 so they should be fine.. It should be possible to reduce our spectrum footprint if the FCC would allow us to reuse channels or sync the system as a single frequency network..

Just need $$$$...

If we were COFDM instead of 8-VSB the SFM's would be a piece of cake.

William
post #4911 of 5238
Next they'll decide to change the format from MPEG2 to MPEG4 and everyone's HD tuners will be obsolete and there will be a coupon program for a digital-digital changeover. The American public will be even more confused, not to mention pissed their brand new HDTVs bought the last few years won't have a a usable internal HD tuner.

That would actually allow the channel sharing thing easier and give everyone better chances at content sticking in the high def realm (and probably get my CWKYT back in HD resolution).

If a format change like that ever were to ever happen, may I propose it is designed such that by default the weather warning and alert banners\\bugs\\crawls from affiliates are overlays on the screen independent of the content in the 'background'... that every tuner box gives the user the ability to switch off the overlay during their favorite programming?
post #4912 of 5238
Ben, what you are suggesting is more like a true datacast. This would allow for portions of the data to be "acknowledged" like a warning, and then the tv would return to your regular programming. The warning could be separate from the broadcast, and the "tv" could overlay the alert on the screen without disrupting the DVR recording. This is why a simple "spectrum grab" is a bad idea. Like the new health care plan, this is not the best possible plan for our country. The "correct" plan (health care included) would be so well thought out that it would be widely embraced as a path to a better future for EVERYONE. Instead, we get a bill that has perks for this group or that group and penalizes other groups based simply on what will get the votes to pass it. I propose that we come up with the best plan possible, the plan that passes muster with the most brilliant minds in our country, a plan that is modeled on a super computer in advance of its implementation, a plan that leaves room for future innovations that we can't even imagine now. COFDM and MP4 may very well be part of that plan. If the broadcasters were asking for MORE spectrum for mobile DTV because the cell phone companies are not using their allotted spectrum efficiently, would the FCC be in a rush to grant that request?
post #4913 of 5238
Well I just want my HDTV (un-watered-down) ... and it's becoming abundantly apparent that local broadcasters (with a few exceptions) can't/won't deliver.

We reap what we sow.
post #4914 of 5238
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Originally Posted by BenCJedi View Post

Next they'll decide to change the format from MPEG2 to MPEG4 and everyone's HD tuners will be obsolete and there will be a coupon program for a digital-digital changeover. The American public will be even more confused, not to mention pissed their brand new HDTVs bought the last few years won't have a a usable internal HD tuner.

That would actually allow the channel sharing thing easier and give everyone better chances at content sticking in the high def realm (and probably get my CWKYT back in HD resolution).

If a format change like that ever were to ever happen, may I propose it is designed such that by default the weather warning and alert banners\\bugs\\crawls from affiliates are overlays on the screen independent of the content in the 'background'... that every tuner box gives the user the ability to switch off the overlay during their favorite programming?

I gave 4 different members of the ATSC a plan to overlay the alerts in 2000.

All it would have required was an Emergency audio PID (which was in the original standard), that would override the existing audio, a data PID and control of the receivers built in closed caption decoder (which would overlay the text/graphics).. CEA would not hear of it since it would have transferred the liability from the stations and to them.. Hence the reason why the alerts are the way they are...

William
post #4915 of 5238
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Originally Posted by sam_gordon View Post

I don't remember the blurry picture going between cameras but coming out of the replay effect to the cameras. Like a dissolve that didn't quite finish.

They are most likely using Flexicoders and have the "adaptive filtering" setting set to on and it needs to be OFF. And they need to double check the setting because the way it's presented can cause confusion.
post #4916 of 5238
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Originally Posted by William Smith View Post

I gave 4 different members of the ATSC a plan to overlay the alerts in 2000.

All it would have required was an Emergency audio PID (which was in the original standard), that would override the existing audio, a data PID and control of the receivers built in closed caption decoder (which would overlay the text/graphics).. CEA would not hear of it since it would have transferred the liability from the stations and to them.. Hence the reason why the alerts are the way they are...

William

Your idea sounds excellent William, but unfortunately like just about everything.. someone always wants it to be someone else's fault when there is trouble and not be held accountable (such as a missed warning\ echnical glitch preventing the data stream from delivering emergency information).
post #4917 of 5238
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Originally Posted by BenCJedi View Post

Your idea sounds excellent William, but unfortunately like just about everything.. someone always wants it to be someone else's fault when there is trouble and not be held accountable (such as a missed warning\ echnical glitch preventing the data stream from delivering emergency information).

For less than the price of an un-subsidized digital TV converter box, one can purchase a NOAA "All Hazards" weather radio. It works 24/7 (like when your TV is turned off,) has a battery backup, and two required test alerts every week. (The new ones are smart enough not to sound the audible alarms for the test.)

... And BTW, it's controlled by folks that have no issues with being "accountable," in fact, most of them live for it.

And there's your Severe Weather Season PSA.
post #4918 of 5238
Those radios will give the basic text information but I don't know how well they will interface with the CAP(Common Alerting Protocol) standard...NOAA is well known for doing their own thing...

William
post #4919 of 5238
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Originally Posted by William Smith View Post

Those radios will give the basic text information but I don't know how well they will interface with the CAP(Common Alerting Protocol) standard...NOAA is well known for doing their own thing...

Don't no nothin' about "CAP." I do know that all these (weather) alerts originate from the same point (or send button, which is almost certainly going to be pushed by a NOAA employee.) TV gets them several seconds after the radio's go off ... if you happen to be conscious and have the TV turned on ... and everything in between "the button" and the TV is working.

OTOH, The beauty of the radios is that once they've roused you from your deep, deep sleep, the voice on the radio tells you exactly what's going on.
post #4920 of 5238
Any word on the WKYT making the switch?
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