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post #5011 of 5238
i have tried rescan but still i am not getting the radar anybody else having this issue?
post #5012 of 5238
Yeah,I can't get it via scan,but can by tuning direct 36-5.

Another question,will WTVQ 3 and WKYT always share 36-3?
Seems crazy to me.
post #5013 of 5238
Unless WKYT has had an OTA PSIP hiccup, the RADAR subchannel should scan/map to logical channel 27.3. It was there the last time I scanned (before they fixed the Tribune/Zap2It database.)

WTVQ's 24/7 Weather should map to 36.3. Technically, there is no "sharing," but, as you've seen, there is a potential logical/physical channel number conflict if everything isn't setup properly at both stations. Reason #1 why virtual channel mapping was a very bad idea.

In a worst case senario there's even room for "accidental" malfeasense during sweeps ... big events ... etc. It's just a matter of time before some desperate, clever engineer or station manager somewhere grows half an idea ...
post #5014 of 5238
looks like we have frozen radar picture on 27-3 now thats a move in the right direction. too bad i just ordered dvr from directv now im going to lose HD OTA not sure what they will charge fo rthe OTA addon box this SWM conversion is getting expensive real quick. well if anything i do have the SD conversion boxes i can use them till i can afford more equipment
post #5015 of 5238
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Originally Posted by demonspawn View Post

looks like we have frozen radar picture on 27-3 now thats a move in the right direction.

Did a scan not pick it up before, or was it just a case of the lights were on but no-one home? The latter seems to happen more often than it should.
post #5016 of 5238
yea tried a couple of scans for the directv box did no good then all of the sudden it was there today and now everything is fine.
post #5017 of 5238
Windows Media Center is good now with the WKYT signal changes per the zap2it database fix. I found I had to go into the TV signal setup area and not simply rescan. Since the channel information comes from zap2it repeating the signal setup will contact their servers for information about your zip code and then it will assign that data to the channels detected by the signal scan part of this setup. If you try to rescan channels under the guide section, it won't pick up the zap2it changes for WKYT. This is all a hassle of course that I don't care to repeat again unless WKYT finds an opportunity to take the CW back to HD on the old VHF signal. There's a pool for ya HDTVChallenged. It'll probably never happen. I've registered my disgust how Insight exclusively gets CWYT in HD, but it falls on deaf ears. WBKI isn't much help either as they don't seem to care that their HD ability has been dead for a long while. My luck picking up WBKI consistently has come to end. It's late night only access for me there, which doesn't help me at Primetime.
post #5018 of 5238
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Originally Posted by BenCJedi View Post

. My luck picking up WBKI consistently has come to end. It's late night only access for me there, which doesn't help me at Primetime.

Doesn't matter ... still no HD feed from WBKI (as of a couple of days ago.) Given the length of the outage, it would appear that they have no intention of restoring the HD feed.
post #5019 of 5238
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

Doesn't matter ... still no HD feed from WBKI (as of a couple of days ago.) Given the length of the outage, it would appear that they have no intention of restoring the HD feed.

Yeah I guess they don't care either. They posted something on their Facebook page about raising a lot of money for something. I guess it's not for hiring help to fix their HD equipment.

The upgrades I did add to my antenna system have given me stability for ION and QUBO and some extra KET channels at least. A scan also picked up the CBS in Louisville, but not enough to lock on for a picture.. sniffed some PSIP I guess.
post #5020 of 5238
As insight in northern Kentucky switches over to all digital I was wondering if anyone could help me out a bit as you folks already went through this I believe.

1) my question does anyone have experience with these types of boxes and an HTPC?
2) can you use a IR blaster and the box to pass the channel signal through the coax out to a traditional analog tuner in the htpc?
3) are any channels still available on a qam tuner after the conversion?

Thanks Guys

Brad
post #5021 of 5238
I picked up WBKI great at 8pm tonight out in WInchester, but alas the opening night of the CW fall TV season and not in HD.
post #5022 of 5238
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Originally Posted by BenCJedi View Post

I picked up WBKI great at 8pm tonight out in WInchester, but alas the opening night of the CW fall TV season and not in HD.

I didn't even bother to check. DVR'd CWKYT and zipped through all the commercials (except for the Supernatural promo.)
post #5023 of 5238
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Originally Posted by hukt View Post

As insight in northern Kentucky switches over to all digital I was wondering if anyone could help me out a bit as you folks already went through this I believe.

1) my question does anyone have experience with these types of boxes and an HTPC?
2) can you use a IR blaster and the box to pass the channel signal through the coax out to a traditional analog tuner in the htpc?
3) are any channels still available on a qam tuner after the conversion?

Thanks Guys

Brad

I just set up one of the miniboxes (a Technicolor DCI104) on our bedroom TV
1) haven't tried connecting one to the HTPC yet.
2) The output of the box is normal NTSC on channel 4 (if you follow the Lexington instructions), so the analog PC tuner should not have any trouble pulling in a signal. An IR blaster should work if you know the correct remote commands.
3) No QAM channels are available after the conversion; the only channel available was 4.

I worked around the QAM problem using a combination of a 2-way splitter and a high-low splitter/joiner (HLSJ); this passed the digital channels (at least CBS and above) through the "high" input of the joiner while feeding the channel 4 analog through the "low" input.

The channel numbering with the adapter is the same as the current analog channels (e.g. ABC on 10). Quality was decent to abysmal - one of the local public channels had some really nasty stairstepping artifacts from their compression.
post #5024 of 5238
Wow I thought it was a requirement that cable companies had a 'must-carry' stipulation to offer the local NBC, CBS, FOX, ABC and PBS channels on clear QAM on cable systems. If that's true how is Insight allowed to not abide by this?

I use a HTPC, but only feed OTA into it now since Time Warner cut off my basic analog tv signal (they forgot to put the passive block on the line for a couple years for this broadband-only customer, though my online account access shows tv signal 'active' status, but I know the billing is right and if I call to ask about it, they will probably say it is a mistake anyway and want another $30/month for basic cable). I was watching 95% OTA content anyhow so I don't really miss it.
post #5025 of 5238
The QAM channels are still on the system in Lexington, although the digital conversion has not actually taken place. However the output of the mini converter is only NTSC on channel 4 [for Lexington]. I guess it remains to be seen what is still available on QAM when the actual conversion is completed.
post #5026 of 5238
Thanks guys,

If I may ask one more question. When you got the miniboxes did it require a tech to come to your house. My friend got a couple boxes last week and they required a tech to install them. He then required a tv at each of the boxes and I would rather just do it myself then try to explain why I have two miniboxes hooked into my pc.

Brad
post #5027 of 5238
Hukt, no tech is required to hook the boxes up. In fact it is incredibly simple. Just unhook the cable from the tv and hook it to the box input. Set the box's output to channel 4. Then connect the cable that comes with the box from the box output to the tv. Wait 20 minutes and then call the 800 number to activate.

This link has Insight's video about hooking it up.

http://www.610upgrade.com/video.html
post #5028 of 5238
Has anyone heard any updates on when Insight is going to complete its conversion to all digital?
post #5029 of 5238
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Originally Posted by lexviewer View Post

Has anyone heard any updates on when Insight is going to complete its conversion to all digital?

I've not seen or heard anything official. The only info I've seen on the issue is within the Insight topic on the dslreports forum where someone said a friend who used to work for Insight said the magic date was September 27th. I reckon we'll see soon enough, since that's just around the corner.

I sure do wish they would get on with it. I'm waiting to complete my retrofit within my house. I was able to successfully connect a DTA to my Tivo series-1 recorder and rerun the Guided setup. I picked up an IR cable from eBay that directly connects to the DTA allowing the Tivo to change channels directly. It's working great, and the picture quality has been better than ever before. I'm curious when they do drop the Analogs, if there will be another channel reorganization occurring on the DTAs? Currently the DTA mirrors the current Analog channel arrangement, with a handful of duplicated channels in the three digit digital tier (all of the three digit digital channels are not included at the moment).

I also currently have three cable cards, two in a Series-3 Tivo, and 1 in my flat screen TV. As the Insight DTA wave arrived, my HD channels above 900 on these cable cards are seeing tons of interference (massive pixellation beakups occurring)... and it's strange... sometimes only on the odd numbered channels, where the even numbered channels work perfectly. I'm seeing almost complete loss of HD channels at the lower end of the channel spectrum closer to 900. I'm curious if there is some overlap or close frequencies for this HD tier, and the DTA frequencies... possibly getting squeezed while the Analogs channels are still on? I'm not watching too much TV at the moment, so I'm just dealing with it at the moment... I'll file a complaint with Insight if it's still there when the Analog shutoff occurs.

I also have a couple of digital modulators I use to re-broadcast within the house for my two TIVO recorders (one on channel 122 and the other on channel 124). These are mixed back into my whole house feed using a combiner. I've disconnected these at the moment, in case they might be the cause of my HD interference... however, the interference is still there with this modulation feed disconnected. Hopefully there will be a "hole" in the frequency spectrum so that I can continue this again within my house once everything settles down... this is a major disruption to my house setup, I sure do hope there are some benefits down the road to this Insight "upgrade".

Does anyone know what HD channels will be coming? Insight has been very quite on this whole front. Must not be too exciting, otherwise you'd think the marketing folks would be milking this for all it's worth to attract new or keep older customers.

And more on topic for this forum... I have a student who is up "high" in one of the dorm towers at UK. Insight put the DTA's in the UK dorms for this school year. It stinks that the DTA has a Channel 3/4 RF output only. My student has a flatscreen with a single Antenna input and ATSC tuner. Currently, there is a small UHF loop antenna hooked up to that Antenna input... that gets all four Lexington stations, 3 different sets of KET stations... and the ION station from Morehead. It's really nice to be that high up in that tower! In order to use the Insight DTA, I had to break out an old VCR and set it up to receive only Channel-4, and then use the composite video output from the VCR to feed one of the composite inputs to the flat screen. Sure would have been nice to include a composite and set of stereo audio jacks on that DTA. What's interesting, is my student and roommate hardly ever watch the Insight cable in the dorm... They instead use the OTA antenna, Netflix, and other Internet mechanisms to watch TV content instead... Perhaps the days for the cable company are numbered indeed... at least for the next generation of consumers in the age group of my student.
post #5030 of 5238
Any decent indoor antenna that gets the following stations(OTA) without tweaking/turning the antenna for every change in channel (I plan to hook it up to my HTPC)..

I live in the masterstation area (north-west lexington)

do i have to resort to coat hanger/grabbit ear...

abc
fox
cbs
nbc
cw
post #5031 of 5238
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Originally Posted by rsriram22 View Post

Any decent indoor antenna that gets the following stations(OTA) without tweaking/turning the antenna for every change in channel (I plan to hook it up to my HTPC)..

I live in the masterstation area (north-west lexington)

do i have to resort to coat hanger/grabbit ear...

abc
fox
cbs
nbc
cw

I get all of those in Georgetown with a standard digital antenna so you shouldn't have a problem using any of the ones they sell at Wal-Mart. Mine is an RCA and was about $35.
post #5032 of 5238
Looks like 18 has a third sub-channel now... MaxTrack in 16x9. There goes the great HD picture on 18.1
post #5033 of 5238
WEG wanted the Doppler out at the Horse Park and the easiest way to deliver it was on a sub channel. It will be gone once the games are.
post #5034 of 5238
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Originally Posted by dude69 View Post

WEG wanted the Doppler out at the Horse Park and the easiest way to deliver it was on a sub channel. It will be gone once the games are.

Oh I see... Cool deal, works for me.
post #5035 of 5238
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Originally Posted by dude69 View Post

It will be gone once the games are.

Humm ... We'll see ...
post #5036 of 5238
Don't worry. It's the truth.
post #5037 of 5238
Can anyone confirm that it's 480i/p WS? Surely they wouldn't be trying to push 2 HD subs (even with one at minimal bit rates.)
post #5038 of 5238
post #5039 of 5238
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

SiliconDust says wide 480i. http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun...lineup_3249523

- Trip

Thanks ... I figured that. Unfortuately, the only functioning OTA tuner I have, converts everything to either 1080i or 480i.

Now if WKYT would figure out that they could do this with 27.2(CW), instead of crop/chopping it to 4:3.
post #5040 of 5238
Anybody having problems getting WKYT 27? I live about 85 miles from Lex in Green County, and didn't know until about two weeks ago that they had switched to UHF. I was pleasantly surprised to find that I could get it strong and clear, with no breaking up. (Had gotten nothing when they were using VHF 13.)

Hadn't tried to watch it again until today and now getting nothing at all. I'm getting 18, 36, and 56 just fine, but nothing at all on 27.
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