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post #5041 of 5238
WDKY added a sub channel today. WDKY also replaced the MV450 HD encoder with an Electra 8000 (in a fully redundant configuration). The new encoder's silicone is about 10 years more advanced than what it replaced. Fox replaced all the splicers and receivers over the last couple of months, so all is shiny and new in WDKY's HD land.
post #5042 of 5238
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Originally Posted by HDTV4usinky View Post

WDKY added a sub channel today. WDKY also replaced the MV450 HD encoder with an Electra 8000 (in a fully redundant configuration). The new encoder's silicone is about 10 years more advanced than what it replaced. Fox replaced all the splicers and receivers over the last couple of months, so all is shiny and new in WDKY's HD land.

Gotta love the new shiny toys!

I was getting ready to post it, so I've been watching it and it's not too bad.
post #5043 of 5238
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Originally Posted by HDTV4usinky View Post

WDKY added a sub channel today. WDKY also replaced the MV450 HD encoder with an Electra 8000 (in a fully redundant configuration). The new encoder's silicone is about 10 years more advanced than what it replaced. Fox replaced all the splicers and receivers over the last couple of months, so all is shiny and new in WDKY's HD land.

Humm ... well ... I noticed some brief localized "lego-blocking" during FOX network programming last night (Monday 9/27.) At first I attributed this to the new subchannel, but when I switched over to WDRB, I saw the same issue a few minutes later.

By "localized" I mean around and including an actor's face (as opposed to the entire screen going blocky.) So, maybe everything is not quite so shiny with the new (FOX) equipment ....
post #5044 of 5238
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Originally Posted by HDTVChallenged View Post

So, maybe everything is not quite so shiny with the new (FOX) equipment ....

So if the same issue appeared on WDRB, why would the new equipment at DKY be suspect?
post #5045 of 5238
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Originally Posted by sam_gordon View Post

So if the same issue appeared on WDRB, why would the new equipment at DKY be suspect?

It wouldn't ... but since we can assume that the FOX supplied equipment (splicer) at both stations would be the same ... as well as the network feed itself.

Which is why I said, "So, maybe everything is not quite so shiny with the new (FOX) equipment .... "
post #5046 of 5238
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Originally Posted by Jungle Jim View Post

Anybody having problems getting WKYT 27? I live about 85 miles from Lex in Green County, and didn't know until about two weeks ago that they had switched to UHF. I was pleasantly surprised to find that I could get it strong and clear, with no breaking up. (Had gotten nothing when they were using VHF 13.)

Hadn't tried to watch it again until today and now getting nothing at all. I'm getting 18, 36, and 56 just fine, but nothing at all on 27.

Problem solved.

I was trying to tune these channels through an HR20 Directv Receiver, and decided to see if the TV would tune them. Sure enough, all channels, including 27-1, came in fine. I redid the antenna setup on the HR20 and everything is fine.

Not sure why the HR20 was tuning 27 fine a few days ago and then stopped, but anyway...
post #5047 of 5238
Not sure why the HR20 was tuning 27 fine a few days ago and then stopped, but anyway...[/quote]

Ever since the conversion I am unable to get 27.1 on our Directv HR22 with attached AM21. All other Directv boxes in our house permit scanning so no problem but not the HR-22. Have re-set it, re-programmed local channel info in it several times; still nothing, it says searching for channel or signal or some such words as that, code 792 I think. The antenna channel strength indicator in the HR-22 shows 100% but nothing. 27.2 and 27.3 both work fine.

27HD in Directv has been pixilating and freezing quite a bit lately so wanted to use the OTA signal. No go so far.

UPDATE: Just tried again, doing a "Reset Settings" in the Antenna Setup rather than just re-doing the "Initial Setup". Checked to make sure all locals were out of Guide, then put local market back in again using "Initial Setup". Voila, 27.1 now works!
post #5048 of 5238
Just me or them?

Thanks.
post #5049 of 5238
Them.
post #5050 of 5238
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Originally Posted by Juppers View Post

Them.

Not 'only' them, but 'good' them.
My signal level prior to today was 'typically' 86-88, but now since they came back on, it's pegging 100. :-)
(It was pegging 100 prior to their outage back 6(?) months or so ago, then it was rarely over 88, ...til now)
post #5051 of 5238
The Herald Leader published an article today on the current status and gameplan for the Insight switch to all digital. Here's a link to the story:

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/10/17/1...g-channel.html

It essentially states that 18 of the over 70 Insight channels have been converted so far in three waves... with the remaining channels to be converted by the end of the year.

I can only assume this long transition is to ease the customer service issues that will inevitably arise when doing something like this... I guess that means we'll have to wait until 2011 to see what benefits (if any) the customer will see as a result of this transmission mechanics change.
post #5052 of 5238
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Originally Posted by rdh416 View Post

27HD in Directv has been pixilating and freezing quite a bit lately so wanted to use the OTA signal. !

Humm ... I've been getting this on all of the HD LiLs recently. Anyone else? The CONUS Ka signal strengths still look good on both tuners.
post #5053 of 5238
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Originally Posted by ragamuffin View Post

I can only assume this long transition is to ease the customer service issues that will inevitably arise when doing something like this... I guess that means we'll have to wait until 2011 to see what benefits (if any) the customer will see as a result of this transmission mechanics change.

I'd say their benefit would be a reduction in cable theft since the only way to get a usable signal after they have transitioned every channel is have one of their boxes to decrypt the signal. I would expect the serialization and tracking of these boxes to be tightly monitored. Do the boxes have a card like the sat companies use?

The cable company will say the benefit is more channels and more HD, but I think the underlying reason is more towards control and loss prevention of their service.

It's amusing that 5 or so years ago the mom and pop cable company in my wife's hometown did the whole digital transition to cutting off analog and requiring a tuner box for their service. Cable theft must have been very high in that little Indiana town. I guess it is more difficult in a larger market like Insight is in to be able to pull off the transition until now.
post #5054 of 5238
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Originally Posted by BenCJedi View Post

I'd say their benefit would be a reduction in cable theft since the only way to get a usable signal after they have transitioned every channel is have one of their boxes to decrypt the signal. I would expect the serialization and tracking of these boxes to be tightly monitored. Do the boxes have a card like the sat companies use?

The cable company will say the benefit is more channels and more HD, but I think the underlying reason is more towards control and loss prevention of their service.

It's amusing that 5 or so years ago the mom and pop cable company in my wife's hometown did the whole digital transition to cutting off analog and requiring a tuner box for their service. Cable theft must have been very high in that little Indiana town. I guess it is more difficult in a larger market like Insight is in to be able to pull off the transition until now.

Insight claims that the benefit will be more available bandwidth on their trunks so that they can provide more HD channels (claiming 50+ in the future), and higher speed broadband. Both of these are supposed to be accomplished by removing the "fat" analog set of channels that take about 6MHz bandwidth each to transmit using analog, and replacing those with a digital equivalent that can be sent in much less than 6MHz bandwidth window. Therefore, this process is supposed to free up bandwidth so that more "stuff" can be added to their service.

That's the theory as I understand it... but nothing specific from Insight yet. They appear to be moving a few channels each week. Supposedly to be completed by the end of the year. If you're still receiving "analog" channels, Insight is running a banner across the channel saying you need to get a DTA and soon.

Most places where I eat out in Lexington have their TV's scrolling this banner... I guess these establishments will figure it out when the last "analog" channel disappears.

My experience so far has been better quality picture (even on my Tivo-1 that now has it's own DTA and direct connected IR cable for control). I also have a Tivo-3 with 2 cable cards and a flat screen with an additional cable card. I don't have the Motorola DVR from Insight anymore since it overheated all the time and seemed to get stuck on FF and REW more often than not, and I could not add any more storage to it. My Tivo-3 has a 1TB external eSATA drive plugged into it providing plenty of extra storage.

The only downsides so far for me have been when my wife has all three Tivo's recording something in prime time... And I want to watch two sports events simultaneously. I only have the cable card in my TV that can tune in "one" channel... whereas before, my TV with PIP could tune two unique channels, and my extra smaller 15 inch flat screen could tune it's own channel as well... oh well, I think those days are gone. And I guess we'll eventually see the PIP disappear as well as tuners in TV's in the not too distant future. Probably to be replaced with a network interface connection and the likes of NetFlix for streaming services.
post #5055 of 5238
I see from my last bill that Insight is raising their rates again in January. I wonder just what additional we are going to get from the switch to all digital.
post #5056 of 5238
Just in case anyone else cares about the htpc use with insight I set up my system a couple nights ago with mini boxes. Worked great with the USB register box for media center.
post #5057 of 5238
Long time reader, first time poster.

Looking for a local Lexington, KY resource to repair a failed power supply board on a Panasonic Viera TH-50PZ85U 50" 1080p Plasma. I'm out of warranty, so I'm out of luck. I found a service manual for the model, and it looks modular component-wise. It's one of two boards, and I think someone with some EE experience could fix.

I have received some estimated for 'standard' shop repair and they range from $250-600 plus labor.

Any suggestions on local persons who have this skill?
post #5058 of 5238
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Originally Posted by bdeener View Post

Long time reader, first time poster.

Looking for a local Lexington, KY resource to repair a failed power supply board on a Panasonic Viera TH-50PZ85U 50" 1080p Plasma. I'm out of warranty, so I'm out of luck. I found a service manual for the model, and it looks modular component-wise. It's one of two boards, and I think someone with some EE experience could fix.

I have received some estimated for 'standard' shop repair and they range from $250-600 plus labor.

Any suggestions on local persons who have this skill?

Try this site, they advertise a replacement board.

shopjimmy.com

The board is - panasonic-txnss1rjtu-ss-board

Currently about $60.
post #5059 of 5238
Anyone notice that 18.2 (Wazoo) was maybe experimenting with 480i 16x9 format? I noticed that my Dish vip622 was stretching that channel and I didn't understand why. I then tried in on my Samsung's built in tuner and noticed it was flagged as 480i 16x9. Interesting though, that my Samsung's tuner did NOT automatically stretch it.

But perhaps it was just a mistake by WLEX as the actual wazoo material was 4x3, and the 16x9 flag just caused my 622 to stretch it out to 16x9.

That really seams like a great way to broadcast a widescreen SD image, and would be great for 27.2 and 36.2 as well. But I know it could be complicated and cause complaints (perhaps) as it would be - if done correctly - anamorphic (think SQUISHED from the sides) if viewing as a 4x3 image.

As of at least yesterday it looks like that they have gone back to 480i 4x3.
post #5060 of 5238
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Originally Posted by Gruber22 View Post

Anyone notice that 18.2 (Wazoo) was maybe experimenting with 480i 16x9 format?

yeah I noticed that while surfing by ... what would really be useful is if WKYT would do this with 27.2 so we don't get the sides chopped off of all the CW programmming.
post #5061 of 5238
Guessing FOX 56 will be taken off TWC? Haven't heard that it's a done deal or anything like that. Hope they will add FOX 19 in HD if they drop 56.
post #5062 of 5238
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Originally Posted by jb_ky1 View Post
Guessing FOX 56 will be taken off TWC? Haven't heard that it's a done deal or anything like that. Hope they will add FOX 19 in HD if they drop 56.
They can't do that.
post #5063 of 5238
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Originally Posted by jimp2244 View Post

They can't do that.

LOL ... gods forbid there should be any actual "free-market" competition in the process.
post #5064 of 5238
So what's the result? I don't have TWC TV service, so I am wondering if WDKY is gone or not.
post #5065 of 5238
It was still there this morning, I think they have until Jan 14th now but I'll just watch it OTA
post #5066 of 5238
Talked to Insight yesterday. Today (1/4) is the day that Lexington is supposed to get all those shiny new HD channels. The website hasn't been updated to show which new channels. Also, the 50Mbps internet is available to all of Lexington...not just select neighborhoods like the their 30Mbps service. FYI, the price of 50Mbps is $60/month + taxes....and I think that's on top of the 10Mbps price.
post #5067 of 5238
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Originally Posted by bbonds View Post

Talked to Insight yesterday. Today (1/4) is the day that Lexington is supposed to get all those shiny new HD channels. The website hasn't been updated to show which new channels. Also, the 50Mbps internet is available to all of Lexington...not just select neighborhoods like the their 30Mbps service. FYI, the price of 50Mbps is $60/month + taxes....and I think that's on top of the 10Mbps price.

My Cable Card Tuners have been showing these new channels in the lineup now for about two weeks... but there hasn't been any signal available on them. The new channels are all interleaved throughout the pre-existing HD channels.

And I just re-checked... they are indeed LIVE now (9:30am on TUE 1/4/2011).
post #5068 of 5238
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Originally Posted by BenCJedi View Post

So what's the result? I don't have TWC TV service, so I am wondering if WDKY is gone or not.

It's still there though the clear QAM channel disappeared for a while (analog was always there). If it is turned off I'll have to resort to "alternative" methods to get FOX programming since WDKY is the only station I can't receive OTA (though ironically AntennaWeb says it's the one I'm nearest to).

Why does WDKY have a directional antenna anyway? Unless you're broadcasting from the end of a peninsula, I can't see the point of it.
post #5069 of 5238
Stations use directional antennas for two reasons.. one is to push the signal over a target audience (WBKI trying to hit Louisville from Bardstown) or most likely to prevent interference to another station.

Winchester should not be an issue for WDKY ..

If your antenna setup has an amplifier ,WDKY may be overloading it causing signal distortions..

William
post #5070 of 5238
WDKY's analog antenna was directional for some reason, and that's the antenna they're using currently for digital according to the STA filing on record. They have a permit to replace it with an omni, but there's no telling when that will occur.

- Trip
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