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Did I miss something? Runco makes LCD projectors?  

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
It'll be a while before I actually make the plunge and pick up a projector, but that doesn't stop me from lookin' ;) . And while looking through another thread, I saw someone mention Runco making an announcement today about something. So I go to the website, and see this. I've been to Runco's site a few times, and I don't remember seeing anything about an LCD projector. Is this new? I thought Runco was of the CRT/DLP camp ....




Freddy C.
post #2 of 16
Will be interesting to see where they price it.
post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 
Then prepare to be interested ... it retails at $20k :eek:, but if I'm not mistaken it comes with the scaler/controller ...


Freddy C.
post #4 of 16
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Originally posted by Freddy C
Then prepare to be interested ... it retails at $20k :eek:, but if I'm not mistaken it comes with the scaler/controller ...


Freddy C.
WOW!!! $20 thousand dollars??!!!

Those specs look aweful close to my 11HT specs!
As much as I like my Sony, I can't imagine I would pay $20k for it if it was encrusted in gold and diamonds!!

Gus
post #5 of 16
@ 20 K I hope it comes with free installation, free lamps forever, and a 100 years 24 hour replaement serice.
post #6 of 16
Looks like a Sanyo PLV-70 with outboard scaler.

DavidW
post #7 of 16
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Originally posted by David Wallis
Looks like a Sanyo PLV-70 with outboard scaler.

DavidW
And a complementary lower CR, just for the asking!

Gus
post #8 of 16
I believe the projector that you are referring to is a PLV-60 with Runco's typical massaging of contrast ratios and lumen outputs.
post #9 of 16
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Originally posted by Scott B
I believe the projector that you are referring to is a PLV-60 with Runco's typical massaging of contrast ratios and lumen outputs.
So let me get this right, Runco is selling a $4k projector for $20K?

Here is a question: IS there anybody here willing to buy it?
If so, WHY???

Gus
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
I'm sure there will be. $20k does seem like a lot for a HT-based LCD projector, scaler or no scaler. Although they may be covering their bases; if a customer gets headaches or eyestrain from their $17k DLP projector, there's a $20K alternative. Hmmm ... I wonder what Runco's dead-pixel policy will be :D ....


Freddy C.
post #11 of 16
Gus - you write, "Here is a question, IS there anybody willing to buy it? if so WHY?"

I ask a similar question about the Sony LCD's last week and you got pretty offended. :) (I deleated my own thread because it was turning into a petty name calling thread with no useful information being offered.)

I agree with you regarding the Runco. I saw a prototype of this projector at a home theater expo about a year ago. I thought it looked "average" at best. When I learned it was $20k, I just shook my head and went to the next demo.

We all have strong opinions based on what we like. My guess is that there is someone out there who will buy this projector. To each his own. Reed.
post #12 of 16
I had a similar experience when I auditioned Sharp projectors. I discovered that the Sharp 9000 was out of the question for me due to noticeable rainbows and temporal dithering causing strong nausea. I then looked at Sharp's LCD option -- the 7000. It was a fine-looking projector for an 800x600 LCD, but it cost in the neighborhood of double the price of a Panasonic with the same stats, and well above XGA LCD projectors. I felt bad for the salesman (whom I have enjoyed dealing with in the past), who had no good answer for why someone should choose that projector over a cheaper competitor.

Unlike some on this forum, I *would* pay a premium for Runco's tweaking and customer service. Unfortunately, I am simply unable and unwilling to pay that *much* of a premium. I agree with Freddy C that Runco is probably making sure that they have a product to show customers who like me cannot watch DLP, though I wonder whether their pricing strategy will work with customers who have done thorough research.

I have to come back to the main caveat, though: I haven't seen this projector in action. Maybe Runco has done wonders with this unit.
post #13 of 16
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Originally posted by Reed W
Gus - you write, "Here is a question, IS there anybody willing to buy it? if so WHY?"

I ask a similar question about the Sony LCD's last week and you got pretty offended. :) (I deleated my own thread because it was turning into a petty name calling thread with no useful information being offered.)

I agree with you regarding the Runco. I saw a prototype of this projector at a home theater expo about a year ago. I thought it looked "average" at best. When I learned it was $20k, I just shook my head and went to the next demo.

We all have strong opinions based on what we like. My guess is that there is someone out there who will buy this projector. To each his own. Reed.
Reed,

I may have gotten carried away with my response to your thread the other day, I apologyze, sincerely. I guess I just got a little frustrated with the back-and-forth between the DLP and the LCD camp.

Today's subject, I view differently.

As I see it, we have 2 machines with almost the same specs and a $16 THOUSAND dollar price difference. It seems exagerated don't you think?

But my question was honest though, Is there a reason why the Runco is so much more expensive? Does it completely obliterate the Sanyo performance wise? For that much more $, it should!

Gus
post #14 of 16
Thread Starter 
Don't forget, it's not just the projector. Runco's picture has the projector and that "box". I'm assuming they come as a pair for $20k. I don't know how good it is, but I guess it could add $2k-3k to the price. I guess we won't know until someone does a shoot-out between it and the new Sanyo or it and the Sony 12HT, with and without a damn good scaler ...


Freddy C.
post #15 of 16
Let's also not forget this projector has been out almost a year---even despite the high pricing. Back then the PLV-60 was a lot more than 4k...although not 20k :)

I saw it---huge, massive unit and even larger than their new DLP. I didn't think the picture was that bad honestly.
post #16 of 16
Sorry guys I do not follow Runco.
I thought it was a new model from Runco that replaced the PLV-60 unit. I never actually looked at the contrast ratio spec.
Now that I think about it the PLV-70 version from Runco would be 3000 ansi's and 1800:1 contrast.
Silly Me.

DavidW
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