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post #121 of 5998
Anyone living in the Goodlett/Walnut Grove area - what type of antennae are you using?

I've tried 4 so far - none of which prevent the CBS signal from breaking up. I'm writing this as the Titans/Raiders game is entering the 4th quarter and I am frustrated enough to leave the game to write this!

Thanks
post #122 of 5998
I thought I would add this to the thread so Memphians would see it.


CraigM Tennessee Calibration Tour

I talked with Craig and he would love to do a TN tour if we can get enough people in the various cities. This tour would be in the March/April time frame after he completes Georgia.

If you want Craig to calibrate your Mits, send an email directly to him at MGHomeTheater@earthlink.net
post #123 of 5998
Anyone else noticing a significant drop in signal strength on NBC around 7:00 pm? I get a really strong signal up until right around 7, then it drops down to where I can't pick it up. Are they going to low power during primetime or something?
post #124 of 5998
What is your location cws.......

I too experince drops in signal strength on all memphis stations but I havent been able to isolate them to a common dedominator.

I feel like it is an athmopheric condtion..........
post #125 of 5998
dirk1843,

I'm in southeast Shelby county around Hacks Cross and Winchester. I emailed WMC and got a response from an engineer stating that they are not lowering their signal strength at night and offering some suggestions on how to solve the problem. He felt like it was an atmospheric condition as well. I'm only having this problem on 52-2, every other digital station is just fine (except FOX). FYI, I adjusted my antenna, and I am now able to pick up 52-2 at night. The signal strength is still much lower, but I was able to get it just strong enough to get a steady picture.
post #126 of 5998
Thread Starter 
Well, the latest I hear from TWC here in Memphis is not all that encouraging . The people in the know at TWC say around July '03, but this is after telling me June '02 and then Dec. 02. Others around town at various Video Stores say don't hold your breath for July, that TWC hasn't even started talking to folks like WREG. I was hoping for the Super Bowl but I guess not !!

Jerry
post #127 of 5998
TWC doesn't surprise me. Their digital cable was the pits. I kept it for about 2 weeks when I moved to the area two years ago.

I'm going to look into the ISF calibration Rick mentions above. I'll post some prices/services when I get them.

-Robert
post #128 of 5998
I've been keeping up with a thread in the Mits forum at *************** about defective red CRT's. It seems Craig has found quite a few during his current calibration tour. I won't post the specifics here. However, I've found that my set is slightly affected.


Here is the info on Craig's calibration services:

Here is the information on what my Mits calibrations and tweaks include and the price.

A full scale Mits calibration takes approximately 10-14 hours and includes the following:

1. First Inspection. Using various Avia and HD Generator test patterns I inspect the screens, CRTs and other items on your set. There is no sense in calibrating it if you are going to need any repair work. Also at this time we look at Component 480i as verses S-Video if you have an interlaced DVD player. Since Component 480i has a number of differences that effect other calibrations and tweaks we need to agree on which hook up you will be using. At this time we also talk about the protective screen and remove it if you would like. At this point I'll have a good idea on how much improvement you'll see from the calibration. 98% of the sets see a very nice improvement in image clarity, color, geometry and convergence. If I feel that you will not see that much improvement I'll let you know so you can decide if you want to go forward with a full up calibration or if you would be better off just correcting a few items and save some $$.

2. Next we open it up and continue the inspection: Mirror condition, Lenses, and check for CRT coolant leaks. If all of that looks good, the lenses are removed and the actual CRTs, coolant and coolant lenses are inspected for any anomalies.

3. If everything passes we move on to cleaning. Cleaning is a very important step in the calibration. Even though these are relatively "new" sets, they all need a very good cleaning. This really helps improve the picture clarity.

4. Clean the Mirror. This usually take 3 to 4 passes to get the factory "film", smudges and finger prints off. The 73" set with the Mylar mirror should never be cleaned only dusted lightly with air.

5. Give the lens assemblies a careful but very good cleaning. We also remove that nasty tape at this time and replace it with new tape after focus is complete.

6. The coolant lenses are cleaned next. These coolant lenses or covers are very concave and collect a lot of dirt and bug parts at the factory.

7. And then the Screen Assembly is cleaned. It is amazing how dirty many of the fresnel lenses are (inside back of the screen). This shows up as dark streaks in a 100 IRE (White) Field.

8. Then I hook up my black box (I2C Interface) and download and archive all of the current User menu and Service menu settings for your set.

9. G2 Voltage (Screen VRs) is next. I set these at factory specification +- .1 volt. This determines the base level for all of the following adjustments and it may improve CRT life. This also helps the AKB (Auto Cathode Balance) work properly which helps hold the grayscale adjustment as the CRTs age. These are set incorrectly on just about every Mits. A little too high or low isn't that bad it's the spread between the three CRTs, upwards of 15 volts from the factory, that needs to be corrected to get the best grayscale and AKB working properly. The factory spec calls out for +- 1 volt, not the 5-15 volts that I regularly see. Also if G2 is set to high or low it hurts horizontal resolution and softens the picture a little.

10. Electrostatic and Manual focus, a very necessary and key element to a super image. Some models of the newer Mits have astigmatism correction (Quad Field Focus), so this will also be checked and adjusted to allow for optimum focus. 99.9% of the new sets with Quad Field Focus have been set wrong from the factory and this hurts corner and edge focus. I check and re-check each CRT multiple times to make sure they are at the best possible focus across the entire screen.

11. Lots of Geometry work to get the Green Grid and Overscan set properly. This is done for both SD and HD using Mylar grid overlays, actual external grid images and special scrolling test patterns to cross check horizontal and vertical linearity. Since I don't just eyeball geometry, this adds a lot of time to the calibrations. I have found that it's best to zero out the Mits factory settings on every RPTV and then set magnetic centering and yoke rotation for green and then do the geometry from the ground up. This isn't just for correcting speed bumps and uneven geometry, that can easily be done by eye. This really improves convergence which improves picture clarity, otherwise I wouldn't spend this much time, and your $$ on this step and the next step.

12. Service Level Convergence for both SD and HD. I zero out SD and HD Fine Red and Blue, set Coarse Red and Blue to starting default values, check and set their magnetic centering and yoke rotation and then re-do convergence from the ground up. This is the only way to do convergence, the Mits factory settings leave a lot to be desired and many times make it impossible to get a real good convergence across the entire screen. The Mits Red and Blue grids are pretty good but they are not exact so I use grid "images" from Avia and the HD generator to converge with. This assures that your actual image will be properly converged. Convergence is done with binoculars so that it is fully optimized from "Your Viewing Position". This eliminates the Parallax Convergence Errors that occur when convergence is done up close to the screen. Once again, I take a lot of extra care here. This is a very important step in getting the best clarity from your Home Theater..

13. Check and adjust edge enhancement through the black box for NTSC, 480p and HD modes. This removes some more of the Mits Showroom add-ons and gets us back to the true Home Theater look.

14. Check and adjust SVM and Sharpness for NTSC, 480p and HD modes.

15. Just about everything up to this point is done to improve clarity, everything that follows is to improve color.

16. Properly set the color decoder for NTSC, 480p and HD modes to remove "Red Push" on ALL inputs. No more attenuators. Besides correcting Red Saturation this also corrects Red Hue, Green Saturation and Green Hue so this also fixes the HD 1080i color decoder problems.

17. At this time the user controls will be centered except for Contrast and Brightness. These settings will be determined during grayscale calibration.

18. Check and adjust Gamma for NTSC, 480p and HD modes.

19. Set 480p grayscale, Contrast and Brightness and make them as linear as possible across the entire IRE range. And then check them against other test patterns and on actual images. Along with everything else, this is another step that I put extra work and care into for the best possible color reproduction from 0 IRE to 100 IRE

20. Set HD 1080i Grayscale.

21. And set grayscale for the NTSC inputs (Coax, Composite, S-Video, Component 480i). The Mits allows High Color Temp grayscale to be set independently for each of the three main display modes (NTSC, 480p and HD) which is very nice since they need to be set separately. The grayscale does vary between NTSC, 480p and HD.

22. Save all of the newly calibrated and tweak settings through the black box.

23. Put it all back together, wipe it all down to get my finger prints off, and then view some DVD and HD scenes to make sure you are truly 100% happy.

I use a Colorimeter for setting all of the grayscale modes/inputs and an HD Generator for setting High Definition Overscan, Geometry, SVM, Sharpness, Color Decoder and Grayscale settings.

Since it takes approximately 10-14 hours to do all of this I like to start the calibration around 9:00 or 10:00 A.M. (depending on sunset) so I can complete it before Midnight rolls around.

To do all of the above tweaks and calibrations I have a flat fee of $750. No surprises, no extra charges and no added fees per input, mode or signal type. Just one all inclusive fee.

Duvetyne ......... improves the blacks and shadow detail it also improves color saturation. To install Duve adds about 1.5 - 2 hours to the job. It would be great if you could do this prior to calibration, it's really not very hard to do, just time consuming. If you are nervous about doing it We would be happy to add it to the calibration. You buy the Duve and let's say $100 for us to install it. But, there are a number of posts here on the SPot that can help you with this so you can save a few $ here. If we install the Duve, it is done right after inspection and before the cleaning starts.

It is absolutely best if you let your set break in for approx. 3 months before calibrating it. The phosphors are a little hot out of the box and 3 months lets them mellow out a little. 3 months also gives the other electronics in the set a good chance to break in to make sure that nothing is going to fail. The CRTs change a lot in the first 300-400 hours so giving them a little time to break-in will definitely help hold your calibration longer.

I have spent thousands of hours analyzing the Mits HD sets and I believe these tweaks and calibrations are the base requirements to get the most from your set.

It makes no sense to have your grayscale calibrated if you don't have the color decoder corrected. It is almost useless to do electrostatic focus without doing manual focus and there's no reason to do focus if you are not going to thoroughly clean ALL of the optics. Edge Enhancement impacts SVM and Sharpness. Gamma impacts Grayscale, Contrast and Brightness. Geometry impacts convergence. Convergence has a major impact on the final image, etc. etc. So, IMHO there is only one way to do a Mits HDTV 100% right. To me, it's not just another RPTV, it's your "Home Theater".

If you have any questions please contact us at (909) 519-2090 cell.
post #129 of 5998
Thanks for the info. It looks like a full calibration. Gregg Loewen does a basic calibration and the extras are by the hour. Based on the Craig's time estimate, the price will be about the same. I understand the value of a good calibration but I have to convince my wife that we need this.

-Robert
post #130 of 5998
I had Gregg do a full calibration on my Toshiba last summer, and he did an excellent job. Well worth the money. I think he has a tour in the Memphis area around March.
post #131 of 5998
during the Super Bowl in HD I couldn't see the time remaining in the game. Or I could see maybe 1/4 of the height of the digits... (the bottom quarter). I could see the team names and the score, but the above time remainaing: nope. Anyone else experiencing this?

This was on my 55" Mits. Is my tv that off?

Thanks
--Radu
post #132 of 5998
Radu,
I had the same problem. Someone posted over here or at HTF that the top of the score box was 31 scan lines (or maybe 37) from the top of the picture. That equated to 4.3%. My overscan is at about 7% based on the Video Essentials DVD.

-Robert
post #133 of 5998
Anyone know exactly where Channel 24 / 30 antenna is? I know the coordinates but would like to know an address or street name. It used to be at Kate Bond and Stage (64) but it isn't there any longer.


Side note: Any word on when PBS will start HD broadcasting? I understand that there are some great shows being broadcast by other PBS stations in HD.

Rick
post #134 of 5998
Rick,
Sources indicate that WKNO PBS begins HD programming May 1, 03. Also, from the Highway 64/Chambers Chapel area in Lakeland, WPTY & WLMT bears 322 degrees...can't tell you the location, however.
ST
post #135 of 5998
I got this reply today when I asked TW about local HD broadcasts.

"We have the technology in place, channels allocated, and hard fiber lines from the broadcasters to our system. We are simply waiting on the necessary retransmission consent agreements to be finalized. We expect this to happen very soon, but until those agreements are signed, I cannot give you a specific day."

I wonder what soon is. I hope it's not the same "soon" my dad's was when I asked about going to Six Flags.
post #136 of 5998
Just found this forum and this thread is perfect, I understand WMC has a web page for their DT does anyone have info on it?

I live in midtown in a 2 story house with an 8bay CM in attic and receive all local channels very well (78%), but 52 seems to be weak at times and pixellates. This spring I am going to roof mount my antenna with a rotor so I'll be able to pickup the new PBS channel and improve signal on all channels (Ihope).
post #137 of 5998
here's more from a different person today...

The information I have received indicates these
channels should be available in about 30-60 days. We are in the process of spec'ing the equipment and securing contracts with the local providers to deliver their signals.


I guess we'll see...
post #138 of 5998
I got that same reply (channels already allocated, no certain date) on january 2...
post #139 of 5998
Just found this site Great to hear so many users are in the Memphis area. I purchased a Tosh 50HX81 from Giant ~ a year ago and absoluetly love it. I have the DST 3000 reciever (same as E86 and Zenth ?#) and recieve good signals on all except Fox (~ 70-80% WNC, 100% on others) with an unmodified RS double bowtie in the attic. CBS clearly has the best HD from my reception standpoint.

Anyone else with calibration experience? I'm interested in having Greg Loewen calibrate the set on his tour. Comments?
post #140 of 5998
Hope it's not my receiver, but wmc 52went off at 7:30PM did anyone else have the problem? it's 9:00 now and still no signal on 52 thanks
post #141 of 5998
John,
If your receiver is broken, so is mine....no HD signal on WMC @ 9:30.
ST
post #142 of 5998
Has anyone used the TWC new digital cable boxes. I spoke with a lady at the TW office on Poplar and she said that they had a HD Cable box. Of course she said that it makes all channels HD . Does anyone know about this or have any insight? I signed up to have it installed sometime Monday so we'll see.

Poop.
post #143 of 5998
I have had the box for three weeks now. The only two channels that are broadcast in HD are HBO and Showtime.

It sounds like this may change this year, and other channels may be added.

Even though the channel selection is limited, I'll take any HD source I can get!
post #144 of 5998
I lost it as well, haven't checked to see if there back up.
post #145 of 5998
Anyone know the location of WHBQ dig 53 transmitter?
post #146 of 5998
Quote:
Originally posted by John Raymond
Anyone know the location of WHBQ dig 53 transmitter?

Yes, it's the "sailboat mast" on top of the towering 2 story studio building on highland. Low power too, that's why few if any receive it.
post #147 of 5998
Good, if its on highland, I might be able to see the Daytona 500, I live in midtown (2 miles) but will have to reoreint antenna in attic and try Sunday. I know its not 1080i but if its widescreen it will be interesting.

This spring I'm getting moving antenna to roof with rotor.

Mits VS60111
Samsung SIR-T151
Onkyo TXS-R800
HTD Level Three Speakers
Sony SAWM40 Subs (2)
Toshiba SD 4800
Onkyo DXC380
Sony SLNV71
RCA VR 650
RS 15-2116 (JP1)
and HTS-650 upstairs with SD4700 DVD
post #148 of 5998
John,

Check antennaweb.org to make sure, but form us I think it's 119degrees. I live a couple blocks from you and I've been able to pick it up (haven't tried in the last couple of weeks) but was able to get NFL during the season.
post #149 of 5998
HDTV_Duffus,

I live at tucker/jefferson 2 story house should be able to get - I hope, Does WHBQ broadcast "24" here on DT? if they do I'll hook up the rotor in attic today, and move to roof this spring. (antennaweb shows 117 degrees, as if my compass knows 2 degrees) thanks
post #150 of 5998
Hi John,

Welcome to the forum.............How deep into JP1 are you......??

I have used the RS remotes for a while now, but have never got into the JP1 side of them...........
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