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post #61 of 1685
11/12/02 at 1:46pm
I think 19.2 is the max...isn't it?
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post #62 of 1685
11/13/02 at 4:52pm
19....19.2, Whatever it takes!
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post #63 of 1685
11/17/02 at 3:16pm
OK,
I was able to tune to WFSB 33-2 on my system and I'm getting a 16x9 HD picture that looks pretty good, definitely better then NTSC, but IMO not as good as WGBY's or WTNH's (when I can get it) HD picture. I'm still researching the bandwidth requirements for true 1080i HD, to see if you truly need the full transmission spectrum to send a true HD signal or you can send a full HD quality picture in 3/4 or even 1/2 the carriers BW.
Jay
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post #64 of 1685
11/17/02 at 6:05pm
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Well I don't think it matter's, if that's what there sending that's what there sending. Reserching wont make them change what there doing. Tonight there is no HD they must be messed up with the football schedule. They didn't turn on the HD channel. It's just showing the SD stuff on the HD channel. Don't know if that's what your watching tonight or not but the picture will look the same. When they are showing HD it look's pretty damn good, it won't look as 3-D as PBS because I think it is all shot on film. PBS does more video so it wont look as sharp but it does look much better then standard.
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post #65 of 1685
11/18/02 at 2:43pm
Your right it does look pretty good and I did notice that last night they were not in HD. Channel 10 in New Haven does a much better job at HD with DD 5.1 audio and everything. The only problem with them is that channel 3 interferes with their signal so I'm hoping the Springfield ABC affiliate goes HD soon.
Jay
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post #66 of 1685
11/18/02 at 3:09pm
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Yeah I don't get channel 10 WTNH, but I'll tell you this WGGB 40 DT channel 55 is in no rush to start passing HD on to us. They are owned by Sinclair and they are jerks when it comes to HD. It's not our fault they own so many stations, the more you own the more money your going to have to spend to get them all Digital and showing HD. So now we have to feel sorry for them for having to spend all this money. Sell the stations if you cant get them ready it's not our problem. Oh well I just get pissed when they know it's coming and they wait till the last possible minute to get things going, I guess we will suffer for the laziness.
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post #67 of 1685
11/18/02 at 6:07pm
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Originally posted by ralfy1
I just get pissed when they know it's coming and they wait till the last possible minute to get things going, I guess we will suffer for the laziness.

YUP!
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post #68 of 1685
11/18/02 at 8:17pm
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hey Mfusick did you get my PM you never answered back.
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post #69 of 1685
11/19/02 at 7:54am
I don't think so.

Still have it, send it again.
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post #70 of 1685
11/28/02 at 5:31pm
When is 40.1 going HDTV???????????


720P ABC is a must!!!

In time for the superbowl?


Will 40.1 do the Superbowl in 720P??????????????????
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post #71 of 1685
11/28/02 at 7:17pm
Just to clear up couple of things. CBS does not broadcast anything in 5.1 anywhere in a country. They will be doing upgrade next year. You can send one HD and one SD channel together. Most stations when they do that use 14Mb for HD and 4Mb for SD. Rest is used for other data.
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post #72 of 1685
11/28/02 at 7:48pm
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I don't think the Super Bowl will be in HD for us. WGGB probly wont do anything till there extension runs out 5-30-03, way past the Super Bowl. Oh well we suffer again, guess I've become used to it.
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post #73 of 1685
11/30/02 at 9:42am
Does anyone get the same jittery picture from DT11 that I'm getting here in Ct? It's so annoying, I don't even bother watching their digital broadcast, with the jitter I'd rather watch NTSC at 480p. :-( It's to bad, because I get a great signal level out of them.
Jay
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post #74 of 1685
11/30/02 at 11:16am
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Humm no jitters here. The signal is almost always at 100. I always have problems with DT55 WGGB some days I get it some days I don't.
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post #75 of 1685
12/1/02 at 12:31pm
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Originally posted by ralfy1
I always have problems with DT55 WGGB some days I get it some days I don't.

I get a very weak signal from them also, I believe their currently operating at something much less then full power. I've sent them several emails but have never gotten a response. They are not an issue for me since I get ABC from channel 10 in New Haven, Ct. They broadcast in HD with DD5.1 (most of the time).
Jay
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post #76 of 1685
12/2/02 at 6:34pm
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Originally posted by ralfy1
I don't think the Super Bowl will be in HD for us. WGGB probly wont do anything till there extension runs out 5-30-03, way past the Super Bowl. Oh well we suffer again, guess I've become used to it.

SO what channel can we get the Superbowl on??????????
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post #77 of 1685
12/2/02 at 7:46pm
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Well man if you can get WTNH Channel 8 out of CT then you'll get it. They do HD, I'm out of luck I can't get it, weak signal on there part.
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post #78 of 1685
12/2/02 at 7:49pm
What about the original header and title of this post...

SHould we still email 22 and 44 and tell them we have HDTV's and we want HDTV?????????

Is there an email adress that can be posted so we can do this?

Do they have websites?
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post #79 of 1685
12/3/02 at 4:24am
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www.wggb.com
www.wwlp.com
Sorry Mfusick, 22 responded to a few e-mails but no one has gotten any response out of Channel 40. Like I said before they are owned by Sinclair and they are in no rush to get things going. I guess we can try e-mailing Channel 40 again, WWLP 22 has been good so far and at least they say they will have HD somtime in December. They appear to be trying, but 40 who know's what going on over there. Yeah I know it sucks man but Superbowl will look crappy this year for us. I've tried to pick up WTNH Channel 8 out of CT but like I said no luck, so we again are screwed by the man.
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post #80 of 1685
12/3/02 at 5:14pm
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Originally posted by ralfy1
I've tried to pick up WTNH Channel 8 out of CT but like I said no luck, so we again are screwed by the man.

I was able to get a very strong channel 10 (8 for you analog guys) out of New Haven after I put in a channel 3 trap. Both 3 and 8/10 are in the same direction for me (South from Windsor, Ct.) and channel 3 was over powering my amp. It's a 20 dollar item from Channel Master and it could help. I use a RS VU-190 and a CM7778 pre-amp and I get a very strong signal when I use to get no signal at all!
Jay
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post #81 of 1685
12/3/02 at 6:15pm
Just to contribute my stats... I'm high up in Manchester CT (near hartford) and I recently went HDTV--- bought a used DTC100 recently (the one mentioned in this thread, I think), and here are my average signal strengths:

via my Terk TV42 satellite attached antenna, no amp (omnidirectional):
ABC 10-x: 80-88
the rest is unreliable and drops out with average peaks of 25-35.

via my brand new Radioshack 'Amplified Indoor Antenna' (Color Supreme 170) at $19.95 -- i couldn't find a double bowtie. It has 10 db built in gain and is essentially as standard as it gets :

CBS WFSB 33-x (3-x): 55-65
NBC springfield WWLP 22-x (11-x): 75
PBS out of springfield 58-x (57-x): 75
ABC 40 out of springfield -- something around 50-60s, i forget. but my abc 10 is better, so i don't remember. I also get wcdc 19 out of adams even,

So basically, I get all major networks digital, and everything in Hidef except NBC (since there is no local hidef nbc broadcast). minimal dropouts. With the terk TV42 alone, only ABC was practically useable for me. I don't have to manually switch or combine my two antennas since the DTC100 has two antenna inputs. Perhaps sometime I'll try a combiner, though. Might make things more superfluous.

PBS HDTV demos are soooo beautiful..
I'm a happy guy!
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post #82 of 1685
12/3/02 at 6:19pm
PS--- the cheap radioshack antenna doesn't pick up ABC out of New Haven/Hamden even though it picks up everything else, but the Terk gets it at 88.

Perfect complements. The RS is a extendable rabbit ears UHF/VHF style antenna.
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post #83 of 1685
12/3/02 at 8:16pm
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Jayco what's a channel 3 trap, please let me know what it is and what it does. I'm right in downtown SPFLD high building and some high trees around me. I get WFSB DT with no problem hardly any dropouts. WTNH I can pick up there analog signal but no luck like I said with the DT channel. Yeah Mfusick and I are going nut's trying to do anything to get ABC in HD before Super Sunday, I don't think we will get it from our ABC station.
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post #84 of 1685
12/4/02 at 8:22am
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Originally posted by ralfy1
Yeah Mfusick and I are going nut's trying to do anything to get ABC in HD before Super Sunday, I don't think we will get it from our ABC station.

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post #85 of 1685
12/4/02 at 8:24am
A freind of mine PM-ed this to me...thought I would share it.

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The one that did best in the Atech tests and that's available at reasonable cost is the Channel Master 4248. I got it for about $39 (plus $16 shipping) at Spectravox.com http://shop.store.yahoo.com/spectrav...-antennas.html

There is another antenna that did slightly better in a later Atech test, the Blake JBX21. This is made in the UK and sells for about $170. I haven't found a US distributor yet, but I'm going to try the $39 CM before I invest that kind of money.

I'm getting 5.1, 8.1, 8.2, 8.3, 19.1, 22.1, 40.1, 45.4, 45.6, 45.7, 57.1, 57.2, 57.3 with my current setup. Of these, the only one that is consistently broadcasting in HD is 5.1, WHDH (ABC) in Boston. 8.2 and 8.3 seem to be just weather. 45.4 - 45.7 never seem to have a signal...I don't know if it is because they aren't broadcasting or if my antenna just won't pull them in. I want to try to get more Boston digital stations with the new antenna.
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post #86 of 1685
12/4/02 at 3:39pm
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Originally posted by ralfy1
Jayco what's a channel 3 trap, please let me know what it is and what it does.

Ralfy1,
A channel trap is a bandpass filter that is designed to attenuate a specific frequency band. In the case of a channel 3 trap it will pass all frequencies but channel 3 (It actually attenuates the channel 3 frequency range by ~ 20 db). This will allow for a local station that is over powering your pre-amp or tuner to still be received but not interfere with other channels. If your in Springfield and both 10 and 11(22) and in the same (approximately) direction (or worse you have a multi-directional antenna) then you might benefit from a channel 11 trap. If the extremely strong channel 11 signal is over driving your tuner then you could have problems receiving channel 10. The only problem with a channel 11 trap in your case is that the attenuation of 11 will "bleed" into the frequency range that is channel 10 (and 12) because they are right next to each other and the roll-off of the filter is not that sharp. It worked in my case but it may not be applicable for you. Good luck.
Jay
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post #87 of 1685
12/4/02 at 8:42pm
just got a zenith hdv420 and silver sensor indoor antenna tonight, and I am from Granby, MA. I am able to get wwlp, wggb, and the pbs ch. 58.
What else is out there? Do I have to I get an outdoor antenna if I want to get fox and CBS from Hartford(?) too. Because I live in a condo, can I just put the "outdoor" antenna up in the attic? I don't think I will have any problem with my association, I just don't want to drill a hole from the outdoor for the wire.

Thanks,
Rich
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post #88 of 1685
12/4/02 at 10:25pm
What about emailing the stations and asking for HDTV?????????

Should we still do this as the header title of this thread suggests?

What are the email adresses?
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post #89 of 1685
12/5/02 at 6:40am
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Originally posted by richardyc
just got a zenith hdv420 and silver sensor indoor antenna tonight, and I am from Granby, MA. I am able to get wwlp, wggb, and the pbs ch. 58.
What else is out there? Do I have to I get an outdoor antenna if I want to get fox and CBS from Hartford(?) too. Because I live in a condo, can I just put the "outdoor" antenna up in the attic? I don't think I will have any problem with my association, I just don't want to drill a hole from the outdoor for the wire.

Thanks,
Rich

(i'm in Manchester)
My indoor antenna picks up CBS in hartford fine. Look to my other post. Check 33-1,2 and/or 3-1,2.
I don't think FOX is doing anything yet.
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post #90 of 1685
12/11/02 at 8:40pm
anyone having intermedite problem recieving wwlp 22 and the PBS ch.58 tonight (12/11/02)? I am not sure if it is my new attic antenna that is causing it. maybe it is the ice storm? But when I did get the signal, the picture looked really good, maybe they are upgrading to HD now?

thanks,
Rich
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