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post #61 of 106
Whats here? AE200? Cool. Have fun.
post #62 of 106
Come now, let's not be paranoid... Just give it a couple of hours at room temp and fire it up! (You know you want to ;) )

edit: BTW a 3 prong cord can be purchased from Radio Shack, catalog # 61-2868
post #63 of 106
Yeah no need to wait That thing was wrapped in plastic so moisture will be gone in a matter of minutes.

Have you had a projector before? What can you compare the 200 to?
Three prong is not completely necessary but it's nice to have it grounded so you don't get fried when watching a movied in the shower. :)

WHen I had an ae100 i ran it through a ups just in case power went out. Small one will do, just to give you time to get the lamp off and run the fan till it cools if the kids trip over the power cord.

If you have to make adjustments to it while running do it veeerrry carefully if you have to. I typically didn't move mine around much while running but we would shuttle it here and there while it was cool.

If you don't have a tuner get the vb50 from viewsonic to crank up the tv on the unit. THat makes a nice combo. You can get it at amazon for about $95.
post #64 of 106
I have my AE100 ceiling mounted and don't put the lens cap on after use. I figure it is not really needed because I use the pj everyday, the room it is in is not that dusty, dust will more likely land on the outer cover of the lens, I recently bought a " lens pen" that will take care of any dust that might accumulate on the lens in the future.

If putting the cap on each time would not alter the focus, I would do it. But the fact is I have the pj focused at just the right point ("defocused" actually) that I don't want to alter it while putting/taking the cap off.

Where I do keep the cap is on top of the projector with the string still attached to it. So if I ever need to slap the cap on, I can just do it easily.
post #65 of 106
Does the outlet jack on the actual unit have three prongs inside? Without that you can't make use of a third ground prong on the outlet. grounding it is not a bad idea I guess. Better safe than sorry.
post #66 of 106
Thread Starter 
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Originally posted by pocketDATA
IM sorry, I wonder if I should start my own thread on this or can I continue here? I apologize, I dont mean to be rude Mike
I can't believe the nerve... Posting in my own thread... :mad:

Heheh, just kidding. :D Go ahead, post all you want. It is better to keep threads together, but if you want to start your own, go right ahead. I've just about waned out my first impressions and am starting to severly tweak the image and connections. :)
post #67 of 106
Somebody help PocketDATA figure out why the Xbox won't work - I want to buy the AE200 and I definitely want to use my Xbox with it!
post #68 of 106
Okey the only difference I can think of between games and DVDs on an X-Box is progressive scan. The games run progressive via the HD-pack. The movies don't. Does the X-Box have a menu where you can specify output/progressive mode/etc.?

-Jens
post #69 of 106
When I eventually get my new pj (HS10, AE300) I will be placing it upside down on af shelf on the backwall - just as you described. That will solve the throw-on-the-ceiling problem.

As far as the imagesize goes - well I don't know the throwratios of the AE200 (look in your manual) but from a distance of 17½f. (5,8m) it would probably throw quite a large image (140"-150"..?). If this is the case, then there's not much you can do about this without making changes to your set-up- either go with another lens (long-throw - if it exists..?) or mount the pjin the ceiling closer to the wall/screen... :)

p.s you might have told us earlier but you might have changed the setup in the meantime:
- whats your "screen"-size/imagesize
- which size would you have preferred?
- how's screendoor at your current sittingdist.?

Regards
Thomas :)
post #70 of 106
Are the trow distances in the manual? If so are they the same for the 300 as well as the 200?
post #71 of 106
I believe that the throw distances were supposed to be comparable to the AE100. (Clawdaddy's post). If so, then the projectorcentral calculator for the AE100 will give you a reasonable result.

As for mounting the projector on a shelf upside-down, be sure to put it on some small risers. The AE100 has buttons on the top (bottom in this configuration) that get 'pressed' by the shelf otherwise.

Pocketdata - you either have to get a different lense or try something else if you want a smaller image. I saw a clever installation where someone put an endtable between two chairs and then set the projector on the endtable. Unfortunately if you have a sofa as your prime seating, then this will not be optimal. You could also try putting the projector on a coffee table in front of your seating position. Just make sure that the coffee table is tall enough so that the bottom of the image is where you need it to be.

David
post #72 of 106
Thread Starter 
I'm about ready to get my screen mounted (did a custom Parkland Plastics setup that should be pretty sweet) and I think I'm finally ready to offer some demos of my AE200 setup for anybody interested. I'm in Los Angeles (right north of the University of Southern California). PM me if interested.
post #73 of 106
Sounds great Mike. Any chance of putting up some pictures of the screen? Could be interesting if you could take some shots from the same scenes you did previously. Then we'd be able to see (roughly) what difference it does with contrast/colors.

Oh, and how much did it cost you?

-Jens
post #74 of 106
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Yenzu
Sounds great Mike. Any chance of putting up some pictures of the screen? Could be interesting if you could take some shots from the same scenes you did previously. Then we'd be able to see (roughly) what difference it does with contrast/colors.
I'll put up some pictures, but can't tell you how much of a difference there will be especially since my old pictures looked worse color and detail wise than I was actually getting.

The screen is the Parkland Plastics 4x8 foot screen ($16) plus some black velveteen for masking ($45, not on sale, and I got too much :( ), and some hooks, eyelets, two pieces of wood, one 96" 2x2 and another 96" 1x2, and some wood glue ($20). Overall, it should cost less than $100 for a fully mountable, maskable screen.

Don't know if you can get the Parkland Plastics Polywall in Denmark, though.
post #75 of 106
It's very likely that I can't, but still one can dream.

-Jens
post #76 of 106
Okey, I just broke down and ordered it. Since saturday the price didn't drop and the Yen rose a bit. I interpretted that as a sign to go for it.

I used the order form at the PJ site. I'm guessing I'm not supposed to get an automated response like "order received". Kaneda just mails directly and asks for the details etc., right?

-Jens
post #77 of 106
Congratulations, Jens. Keep us posted on whether you get hit for customs and that extortionate Danish VAT. :D

As regards the screen, you can go to Ikea and get a 2-metre-wide TUPPLUR roller blind. It's been highly praised too.
post #78 of 106
I'll be sure to tell you about any and all pleasures/pains I encounter. Really hope customs will leave me alone but of course I can't count on it.

Ikea blinds you say? That sounds interesting (and cheap, Yay!). You don't happen to have a link to pictures or descriptions do you?

Forgive my ignorance but aren't blinds very un-uniform in shape. I mean, wouldn't I get a rippled screen or is this some special kind of blinds?

Regards
-Jens
post #79 of 106
I've only found the 80cm version on the web:

http://www.ikea.ch/product_presentat...49526&type=ART

On www.homecinema-fr.com I've seen that many people have it and they are very happy. No complaints of rippling (but that could definitely happen). There are even people who cut the fabric and nailed it to a frame.
post #80 of 106
Congrats Jens - yeah please keep us up-to-date with your new pj when It arriveves. Since I too live in Denmark, Im very interested in how long it taked for the pj to arrive, service etc. Conc. customs, you shoulden't be burdened but I'm afraid there is no escape possible from danish VAT (25%!)...:(

I've been looking for alternatives for a screen as well - I've looked at Silvan (hardware-store) where I found a white wooden board at approx. 90" 16:9 (or close to it)which might do nicely but it's quite heavy...The Ikea blinds sounds interesting - thanx for the tip Grubert - will check it out... :)

Regards
Thomas
post #81 of 106
I've just told the bank to send the payment. That should take about 3 days (could do it faster but that would cost a fee 10x higher). If all goes well I ought to get it next week.

-Jens
post #82 of 106
Okey, that was fast. 3 hours ago the money was send from my account. As soon as they show up on Kanedas account he'll ship the Pj.

Normally I'm a very patient man, but this is almost unbearable. Finally, a projector.

I've always dreamt of having a PJ for as long as I can remember, but never really thought that I would ever be able to realize that dream. They just cost too damn much.

Who would have thought that someday they would be equivalent in price to a nice Tv.

Can't wait to see what it looks like in my home. I've seen the AE100 demo in a shop, but it's really something completely else to see it in your home. Ohhh, the movies I'm going to watch... again.

Good thing the postal office is across the street. The shorter the wait, the better.

-Jens
post #83 of 106
Enjoy :) and, as always....report ;)
post #84 of 106
Thread Starter 
It is super pathetic, but here is my current setup. Sorry about the mess. It is midterms time and it has been study study study instead of clean clean clean:

http://www.geocities.com/michaelrlindberg/screen.htm

I'm using a Parkland Plastics screen (4x8 feet) along with three 96 inch 1x2s and a 96 inch 1x2. I took the screen, glued the 1x2 on the back of the bottom to weigh the screen down, and used a 2x2 on the top to give me a place to put the screen. I then stacked the two remaining 2x2s up and placed the screen on top.

The black velvet you see on the right is my pathetic attempt at masking. I managed to get one piece correct sized (I kept the screen uncut so I could do a permanent mask on the side) but the other pieces look like they were cut by an angry drunkard with crooked scissors, so it remains largely unmaksed.

In the end, I hope to get someone smarter than me to cut out masks for 16x9 (5x48 inch pieces on the sides), 4x3 (I'm too tired to remember the measurements) and 2.35x1 (on the top and bottom). Anyway, the screen cost about $30 total not counting the $45 that I wasted on the masking. So much better than my gross wall. If you want, I can do screenies of it in action, but my pictures are going to be wretched compared to other's cameras here.
post #85 of 106
Quote:
Originally posted by Mike Lindberg
It is super pathetic, but here is my current setup. Sorry about the mess. It is midterms time and it has been study study study instead of clean clean clean:

http://www.geocities.com/michaelrlindberg/screen.htm

...

So much better than my gross wall. If you want, I can do screenies of it in action, but my pictures are going to be wretched compared to other's cameras here.
That's a nice setup. Don't worry about the camera quality, the pictures make their point well enough, it must be a fun experience watching your setup. I know some might quibble about various aspects, the only person that can enjoy that setup is you and your guests. The only thing that we armchair quarterbacks can do is cheer or jeer.

Are there only two pictures? The Geocities scripting barfed on my computer so I just want to check.

How well do you adjust to having the screen so high? It looks like a something forced by practicality issues in your apartment, so I am curious. I hope you enjoy your purchase for a long time.
post #86 of 106
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by JeffDM
How well do you adjust to having the screen so high? It looks like a something forced by practicality issues in your apartment, so I am curious.
Well, typically in movie theaters, I'm the one who sits in the back row, so moving to basically a front row seat was a big change for me. I actually really like the screen where it is. I've even found to like lying down on the floor and watching up. :)

I could lower it a bit, but I don't really have access to precision cutting devices. The nice part about this setup is that it was dirt cheap and that the image quality is very high. While I could have gotten a more expensive screen, this situation works best for me.

This screen is easily cleanable, extremely flexible in terms of mounting issues (I've never seen others mount it in this fashion), and simply cannot be beaten for the price. Even painting a wall would be more expensive, and in my situation, is impossible. Since my walls and ceiling are plaster, normal hooks and nails don't hold, so this "free hanging" situation works best. Those hooks on the top board were originally meant for hooks in the ceiling.

Anyway, there were only two shots on the Geocities page. After midterms, I managed to watch three movies (Police Story, City Hunter, and Once Upon a Time in China 2, just got the HKL editions), so it has been a busy night. :)
post #87 of 106
Quote:
Originally posted by pocketDATA
Yenzu, congrats but I tell ya, the wait wasnt as bad as I thought, the longest wait was for the wire to go thru.
Not really. By mistake PJ shipped the Panny yesterday. I'm a nice guy so I forgive them :-)

Quote:
Did you use DHL or EMS? double box or not? I think the double box thing is not worth it, theres hardly any space in between the two boxes anyway.
I used EMS and double boxing. EMS, because there's a nasty fee to pay if it's DHL and it gets nailed by customs. Double boxing because I have a faint hope that customs wont give it as much attention if they see a brown box than if it's a box with big letters saying "Panasonic homecinema Projector!"

Gods. It could get here before the weekend.

-Jens
post #88 of 106
I agree with the double box keeping the customs guys from paying extra attention to whether the item in the box is really only costing $1500. I had my original ae100 shipped double boxed it took 4 days to get to Texas. I think 3 of those days is due to the size of Texas and it takes a while to fly over to my place. :)

Used EMS and had not surprise duty bills show up.

I really belive that just a little extra protection from the jarring and vibrations couldn't hurt in the packaging. My original panasonic box had hard cardboard supports that held the projector in place. The manufactures box did not have any soft padding inside like some other manufactures use. I think the $30 for the double box is not a waste of money, besides we never know what kind of day the shipper's employees are having.
post #89 of 106
Quote:
Used EMS and had not surprise duty bills show up.
Please clarify; you did or did not receive duty bill? Or you won't be suprised if you do in the future? Thanks!
post #90 of 106
Hi Mike!

Nice to hear that you are happy with your PJ! As a matter of fact I'd like to order a Panny from PJ as well. Yet I have some questions I'd like to ask you:

- is your projector a TH-AE200, not a PT-AE200 (as it will probably be sold in the US/Europe)?
- as you've said the manual is completely in japanese? no problems to setup the whole thing?
- is the remote control labelled in English as well?
- do you have the same voltage as in Japan (ie. 100 V)? So you don't need power conversion?

Thanks a lot. Hope I'll have one soon, too. :D
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