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post #6451 of 6741
Are you running the other connections to your PC through the surge protector also? Phone, network cables, TV cable etc? Sometimes these backdoors are left open and can be more damaging than surges on the power line.
post #6452 of 6741
Thread Starter 
Tom,

I'm using a Tripp Lite (brand) HT1000LCD (model) UPS unit on my 60" projection HDTV mainly to protect the projection bulb from power surges and outages while it is on. This type of protection was highly recommended when I purchased this TV over 5 years ago. So far, it has worked fine. Three years ago this month during a very heavy thunderstorm with very intense lightning, a lightning strike entered the power line into my house and ended up wrecking havoc with a number of electronic units throughout the house. The UPS unit apparently protected my 60" HDTV. The HDTV's AC power line is through the UPS as are the cable and OTA antenna connections. You can also run your phone/internet line through the unit too for protection.

The unit has kept my HDTV operating perfectly during split second or brief power outages while everything else in the room goes dark. When the lightning hit three years ago units that were simply plugged into so-called power strips with surge protection received virtually no protection at all, as several units, including a desktop pc and an indooor rotor control unit were all fried. Virtually every radio and TV station is wired with UPS units to protect electronic devices throughout the building for these reasons.

It sounds like this could definitely help your particular situation. This UPS unit will also smooth out those times of low power feeds.

I found this link to the model number I purchased five years ago.
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Tri...833400.aspx#TS

Steve
post #6453 of 6741
Something to consider when getting an UPS for AV gear is the output waveform. Many computer type units have a stepped sine output that doesn't always play well with some power supplies though is fine for the switching type supplies in a PC. You can get them with pure sine outputs though they cost a bit more. I've had good luck with APC units. Their website has a sizing calculator to handle getting one with the right VA capacity.
post #6454 of 6741
Thanks, Les and Steve. I appreciate the input. Sorry for the delay in responding, but I was out of town this weekend.

Les - your point about backdoor ways for equipment to get shocks is really pertinent, tho' my phone line wasn't connected to my computer. (I should count my -few- blessings.) I will keep it in mind when I shop around for a UPS unit (or two). I'm tired of all the electronic equipment (including the refrigerator's main board) that fluctuating voltage levels likely have caused me to junk. This is an old part of town; I need to arm myself accordingly.
post #6455 of 6741
Is WISH off the air, or is this tropo stuff going wild?
The Stanley Cup didn't come in very well on 13, so I'm wondering what's going on with 8.
Nat
post #6456 of 6741
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by nathill View Post

Is WISH off the air, or is this tropo stuff going wild?
The Stanley Cup didn't come in very well on 13, so I'm wondering what's going on with 8.
Nat

Nat, I assume you were referring to WISH on RF ch. 9 and not the LP translator on RF ch. 17. Not sure what the issue was last evening. If you were having reception issues with the VHF stations (WISH and WTHR), did you happen to check your reception from WTHI on RF ch. 10? If it was a tropo-related issue, sometimes it effects both UHF and VHF and then sometimes it can be more frequency specific and effect UHF only or VHF only. I don't know that WISH on VHF ch. 9 was off the air then.

Steve
post #6457 of 6741
I'm just North of Anderson and been having issues with 8 for a couple of weeks now. Usually just dropouts, but one day, about a week ago, they were completely gone. I switched to their LP UHF station and it was going great, so who knows. I've also had issues with 13 since around November - January, one day good the next terrible dropouts. Before then, since the beginning of their digital transition, always a great signal. They are so iffy now, I switched my news channel of choice to 8...looks like it's time to move on again.

Seems like VHF isn't a reliable band for digital TV.

post #6458 of 6741
Well, I figured out my problem with WISH.
I had a brainstorm recently to inject two RF modulators attached to my Comcast boxes into my antenna setup so I could watch whatever was being shown on the Comcast boxes on my OTA TVs.
It worked fine for the Comcast box signals, but apparently sent out some bad stuff that totally messed up WISH's signal on my system.
Not sure how that happens, but I finally tweaked my set-up and all is good now.
Thanks for the replies.

Nat

ps. even though they come through in standard-def, watching two Comcast boxes at UHF channels 55 and 59 is pretty neat.
post #6459 of 6741
Thanks for passing on that info.....Got one on the shelf, intending to use it someday on a sat receiver.
post #6460 of 6741
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Originally Posted by ccrider2 View Post

Thanks for passing on that info.....Got one on the shelf, intending to use it someday on a sat receiver.

You guys are *way* beyond me. I'm still working on the Vertical Control....
post #6461 of 6741
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Originally Posted by T Heller View Post

You guys are *way* beyond me. I'm still working on the Vertical Control....

Understand that.

Sometimes I long for the days when we only had 3 channels.....Seems like I spent more time watching instead of fiddling to get it all working.
post #6462 of 6741
Is WTTV removing ThisTV by any chance? grday on the Comcast forums claims that Comcast is removing ThisTV off of limited basic so I'm trying to find out if WTTV is removing ThisTV themselves or if this is Comcast removing it from limited basic. Thanks for any info.
post #6463 of 6741
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Originally Posted by Demolition Man View Post

Is WTTV removing ThisTV by any chance? grday on the Comcast forums claims that Comcast is removing ThisTV off of limited basic so I'm trying to find out if WTTV is removing ThisTV themselves or if this is Comcast removing it from limited basic. Thanks for any info.

Elizabeth Taylor is whacking away stuff with a great big knife as we speak. Wow, that would smart!
So THIS TV is still alive and well on 4-2, at least for now.
post #6464 of 6741
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Originally Posted by Demolition Man View Post

Is WTTV removing ThisTV by any chance? grday on the Comcast forums claims that Comcast is removing ThisTV off of limited basic so I'm trying to find out if WTTV is removing ThisTV themselves or if this is Comcast removing it from limited basic. Thanks for any info.

Why would WTTV/WTTK remove This TV? Tribune Company signed an agreement with Weigel Broadcasting & MGM to carry This TV in 14 of the 19 markets they're in. I don't know how long the agreement is good for, but I want to say that if it's being removed from cable, it might be Comcast themselves. Or if it's staying on cable, it might be moved to expanded basic, which would put that network in a slightly higher package. I know Comcast in my area used to not carry any local subchannels, but they do now, including This TV. I wonder if Comcast in Lafayette carries This TV from WTTV/WTTK. I know their system carries the Indianapolis stations, along with WTTW from Chicago (including WTTW's 3 subchannels WTTW Prime, Create, & V-Me, which the latter 2 are already available on the Indianapolis PBS stations).
post #6465 of 6741
Turns out Comcast isn't dropping This TV and Antenna TV from limited basic according to grday.
post #6466 of 6741
Hi, I am moving from Indianapolis down to Bloomington in about a month and I am looking to see if anyone has successfully picked up Indy or Terre Haute stations in Bloomington. I am 53 miles to WRTV station (ABC, Indy) and 48 miles to WTWO (NBC, Terre Haute). I would be happy to have either a directional single antenna on a rotater or two directional antennas, but before I spend some serious time and waste money, I was hoping that someone who reads this forum may have been in the same situation.

Thanks!
post #6467 of 6741
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Originally Posted by djflesch View Post

Hi, I am moving from Indianapolis down to Bloomington in about a month and I am looking to see if anyone has successfully picked up Indy or Terre Haute stations in Bloomington. I am 53 miles to WRTV station (ABC, Indy) and 48 miles to WTWO (NBC, Terre Haute). I would be happy to have either a directional single antenna on a rotater or two directional antennas, but before I spend some serious time and waste money, I was hoping that someone who reads this forum may have been in the same situation.

Thanks!

I live in Bloomington, and easily get Indy and Terre Haute stations. But I live in a fairly elevated location, and have few trees in the way. Bloomington is very hilly, and I'm in a pretty nice situation OTA wise North of Bloomington.
My friends at Stansifer's have a lot of experience in this area, and they report that the altitude of your place will be very important in getting good OTA signals.
You can get WTIU, the local PBS station, with a paper clip sticking out of the antenna input. It can also cause problems if it's in the line of sight looking at Indy.
TVfool.com gives you almost too much information. In my opinion, AntennaWeb.com is too conservative in their predictions as to what you might get. But they're better than they were a while back in that regard. I easily receive two stations they don't think I should get. They do give good directions as to where to point the antenna.
Good luck, and let us know how you get along.
post #6468 of 6741
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Originally Posted by dave73 View Post
... I wonder if Comcast in Lafayette carries This TV from WTTV/WTTK. I know their system carries the Indianapolis stations, along with WTTW from Chicago (including WTTW's 3 subchannels WTTW Prime, Create, & V-Me, which the latter 2 are already available on the Indianapolis PBS stations).
I don't often tune in the basic cable, but did to check this. Right now, 4.2 (originally WTTV-Th) is showing Fox59 in standard def. 59.1 is Fox59 HD. I have not had the TV rescan channels, so the onscreen display still shows WTTV-Th from the initial scan.
post #6469 of 6741
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Originally Posted by kierandill View Post

I don't often tune in the basic cable, but did to check this. Right now, 4.2 (originally WTTV-Th) is showing Fox59 in standard def. 59.1 is Fox59 HD. I have not had the TV rescan channels, so the onscreen display still shows WTTV-Th from the initial scan.

Yeah, I've seen the same....Sometimes they preempt what your watching to broadcast Fox News. That really gripes my 'petunias'.
post #6470 of 6741
Did WTWO increase its power recently or something? I've been getting it pretty reliably in Danville, IL these past few days on an indoor antenna, so it's either a power increase (or antenna adjustment, etc) or some pretty consistent tropo, and I just can't bring myself to believe that.
post #6471 of 6741
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by kc9hzn View Post

Did WTWO increase its power recently or something? I've been getting it pretty reliably in Danville, IL these past few days on an indoor antenna, so it's either a power increase (or antenna adjustment, etc) or some pretty consistent tropo, and I just can't bring myself to believe that.

WTWO has been at its maximum power limit of 1000 kW for several years now. http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tv...=0&facid=20426 You've been receiving it courtesy of enhanced tropo conditions in the area. I saw some of your locals this morning, like WICD and WAND. A DXer on the south side of Indy received KRIN-DT (RF 35), Waterloo, IA @ over 350 miles last hour.
post #6472 of 6741
FYI-

SolidSignal just sent out an email about a TiVo DVR box aimed at OTA folks, with "special pricing" ($79) through July 15th. I looked into it, but it still required a $20 monthly service fee. A tech rep at SolidSignal mentioned a standalone "Brightview" DVR that has come out in the past couple of months. It's not all that attractive, but here's the specs:

http://hkbrightview.com/en/products_2.asp?pageid=12

Apparently the 'secret' is it doesn't record in HD -- only PAL and NTSC.
post #6473 of 6741
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Originally Posted by T Heller View Post

http://hkbrightview.com/en/products_2.asp?pageid=12

Apparently the 'secret' is it doesn't record in HD -- only PAL and NTSC.

Also, as I read the specs, it didn't appear to have a tuner. It looked like a security camera DVR to me.
post #6474 of 6741
I looked at the solidsignal website, & I saw an HD DVR for OTA TV at this link on solidsignal.com. If you look at Tivo, then there's the TiVo TCD746320 Series4 Premiere & the TiVo - Premiere XL. The Tivo models I posted links for do not work with satellite or AT&T UVerse (or for areas now served by Frontier that were setup for the old Verizon FiOS service). So for those with satellite, they'll have to look at a different Tivo model for that.
post #6475 of 6741
You have mentioned the Briteview DVR for OTA recording. Here is the link for the thread about it.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1337412

Myself-I'm using a Dish DTV/Pal for OTA recording. It is now discontinued. But, Channel Master is selling the exact same thing with its' own name on it.

http://www.channelmasterstore.com/HD...cm-7000pal.htm

Here is the thread about the Dish DTV/Pal.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1099071

Here is the thread for the Channel Master version.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1251820

I've had the Dish DTV/Pal for three years and have had no problems with it. Setup is easy and is easy to use. It has two tuners. So, you can record two shows at the same time. Picture quality is just as good as the signal you feed it.

Hope this is of help.
post #6476 of 6741
Thanks for chiming in, Vidop. Until today, I'd been unaware of the Dish/CM DVR.

from the Channel Master CM-7000/PAL DVR description:

"The DVR offers an electronic program guide [EPG] which allows you to pre-set recording schedules"

I am curious about how this works. Is the EPG drawn from the OTA's PSIP (program specific information that's a mandatory element embedded in the ATSC signal) or from the internet via its ethernet connection. How's been your experience with programming it?

(I will rely on the other threads for further info, but wanted to acknowledge your info.)

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PS the tech fellow at SolidSignal mentioned Channel Master had an OTA DVR, but mentioned its $350 price. I think SS is wanting to peddle the Briteview model, since it has -and I quote- "a nice price point".
post #6477 of 6741
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Originally Posted by dave73 View Post

So for those with satellite, they'll have to look at a different Tivo model for that.

There are no current Tivo models that support satellite. The very old Series 1 and Series 2 SD models will support satellite.

Supposedly, there is a Direct TV Tivo that supports HD to be released soon. But soon has turned into a few years.
post #6478 of 6741
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Originally Posted by T Heller View Post
Thanks for chiming in, Vidop. Until today, I'd been unaware of the Dish/CM DVR.

from the Channel Master CM-7000/PAL DVR description:

"The DVR offers an electronic program guide [EPG] which allows you to pre-set recording schedules"

I am curious about how this works. Is the EPG drawn from the OTA's PSIP (program specific information that's a mandatory element embedded in the ATSC signal) or from the internet via its ethernet connection. How's been your experience with programming it?

(I will rely on the other threads for further info, but wanted to acknowledge your info.)

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PS the tech fellow at SolidSignal mentioned Channel Master had an OTA DVR, but mentioned its $350 price. I think SS is wanting to peddle the Briteview model, since it has -and I quote- "a nice price point".
I'm not the expert on this--refer to the thread links for a LOT of discussion on the program guide for these. But, on my DTV/PAL, the EPG comes from TVGUIDE. I'm pretty sure there is a big difference in getting the EPG from TVGUIDE vs. PSIP from the individual stations.

As to programming-it's a snap. You can either set up a "manual" start/stop time/channel or, just click on the program name in the EPG. Be aware that the guide updates overnight. So-if there is a program changed during the day, it probably won't show up in the guide. That's when you would want to do a manual timer.

As to price-when I bought my DTV/PAL, Sears was trying to get rid of their inventory of them. I got mine for less than half the price Channel Master is now asking. Looking back, I probably should have bought another at that time just to have as a backup.
post #6479 of 6741
Hey guys, gotta challenge for y'all.

Attached are images of antennas on a nearby tower. There's a Yagi-style antenna toward the bottom, a couple of circular-shaped ones further up, a 'hot-dog bun'-shaped one and then something on the very top.

Can anyone help id what purpose each antenna likely serves?

I suspect the circular ones are for (semi) long-distance STL (studio-to-transmitter) channels (one faces E the other N). The yagi, hot-dog bun and the top one are mysteries to me.
LL
LL
post #6480 of 6741
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Originally Posted by T Heller View Post
Hey guys, gotta challenge for y'all.

Attached are images of antennas on a nearby tower. There's a Yagi-style antenna toward the bottom, a couple of circular-shaped ones further up, a 'hot-dog bun'-shaped one and then something on the very top.

Can anyone help id what purpose each antenna likely serves?

I suspect the circular ones are for (semi) long-distance STL (studio-to-transmitter) channels (one faces E the other N). The yagi, hot-dog bun and the top one are mysteries to me.
Is your neighbor a KGB spy? Have a foreign accent, perhaps?

Sorry...Couldn't help myself.
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