Originally Posted by jayntguru
I have used the clear QAM removal as a test to see if I can do internet only TV, and it turns out that I can. (boxee FTW) The only real loss for me was TLC/Discovery, and they don't do much online (fail) so they may just lose me.All I want is to have some sort of open standard that lets me use my own device my own way.
I will pay, it's not that I want things for free, but I don't want to have anyone cram anything down my throat the way they intend, and I don't want to pay for a bunch of crap that I don't use. Why is this such a hard thing to come by?
Let's take the last question first. You want a serious answer?
and I don't want to pay for a bunch of crap that I don't use. Why is this such a hard thing to come by?
Lots of people have lobbied for a la carte channels -- just to get the few channels they think they want, or at least not "pay" for the channels they swear they never watch.
Most times people watch or surf through more
channels than they think -- but let's say you only give people the hypothetical 10 channels
they want. (Say the locals, plus a handful of others). What's going to happen is they will end up paying about $50 for those 10 channels instead of paying about $60 for 200
Why? No, it's not because Comcast is "greedy". It's business. The cable companies do not really charge you equally for how many channels you get. There's not a real "per channel" cost. (For the same reason in the same store you pay $1.10 for a 20oz coke and $1.50 for a 2-liter coke, which is 67 oz. You are NOT paying a real per-ounce cost for soda.
However, the most popular cable networks DO charge a per customer fee.
Earlier this year, Scripps Networks (Food Network, Travel Channel, HGTV, DIY, Fine Living, etc) went through hardball re-negotiations for more money with CableVision in New York city to be paid more since they had the most popular channels. For a few days, cable customers there could not get those networks.
There was a similar standoff between Scripps and Time-Warner Cable.
Point is, the channels you want are probably the "most popular" channels anyway -- like ESPN -- and they have higher licensing fees for the cable companies. If you ONLY want a few channels, but they are the ones most people want, then you will still have to pay for the higher licensing fees. You will have to bear the brunt of the costs. (Just like paying $1.10 for the 20-oz soda instead of $1.50 for the 2-liter -- 67 oz -- bottle. You want less soda? Sorry, you still have to pay almost as much.)The only way your bill might go down considerably with a la carte is if you chose the 10 LEAST popular channels,
which would have lower per customer fees. 2)
The media companies force bundles on the cable companies.
* Disney owns ABC Family, ESPN (1,2,3), Disney (1,2,3) plus the ABC stations in several of the top markets.
* Time-Warner/Turner owns CNN, HLN, TNT, TCM, TBS, Cartoon Network.
* We've already discussed what Scripps owns (Food Network, HGTV, etc.)
* Discovery owns Discovery (1,2), TLC, Animal Planet, Science, HD Theater, and like 10 more.These media companies do NOT NOT split up their networks.
Disney-ABC tells Comcast, "You want ESPN -- then you have to take everything
." All or nothing. YOU may only want the main ESPN channel, not the other two minor ESPN channels. You may not have kids and couldn't care less about Disney. But Comcast has to take them all, to get the few channels their customers really demand.
You may not like bundling but it mimics what the cable companies have forced down their throat, too.3)
Cable infrastructure costs. Same reason you aren't going to pay Wal-Mart prices for aspirin in the hospital. No matter how few or many channels you watch, there's overhead cost you will pay. The cable companies try to throw in as many channels as they can to make it seem like you are getting a good deal.
So, $60 for 200 channels is 30 cents per channel. But let's say you only want 10 channels. Sorry, you will not be paying $3.00.
You will still be paying at least $50 for those 10 channels -- for the three reasons mentioned above. "A la carte" will not save you a lot of money, due to the way the business costs are generated for the cable companies.
All I want is to have some sort of open standard that lets me use my own device my own way. I will pay, it's not that I want things for free, but I don't want to have anyone cram anything down my throat the way they intend.
"Open standard"? That people can easily crack and pirate?
No one is offering what you suggest, because what you suggest does not work. EVER. The cable companies are now doing what the satellite-TV companies and the telephone-TV companies did from the beginning -- verify and authenticate customers.The closest to what you suggest is cableCARD that goes INSIDE the TV
. Have you heard of it? But it still verifies you are a customer and authorizes the package you are supposed to get.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CableCARD
CableCARD is a a special-use PCMCIA (PC) card that allows consumers in the United States to view and record digital cable television channels on digital video recorders, personal computers and televisions without the use of other equipment such as a set top box (STB) provided by a cable television company. The card may be provided by the local cable provider; usually for a nominal monthly fee.
It's an internal device, like a miniature set-top box inside your TV. Comcast does offer CableCARDs. However, not all TVs have slots for them.
Oh, and satellite-TV companies do not offer cableCARDs nor does AT&T U-Verse. They require set top boxes. Verizon FIOS lets you use cableCARDs.