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post #751 of 9442
God willing, their encoder is broken and they're upgrading it. The one they have now sucks.
post #752 of 9442
Don't want to interrupt your thread, but you gentlemen seem to be the ones to ask. I just picked up ABC HD DNS from LA on Direct and notice that everything local is in a widescreen format(not quite 16:9). Just wondering what I'm watching.

thanks
post #753 of 9442
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Originally posted by rickmccamy
Don't want to interrupt your thread, but you gentlemen seem to be the ones to ask. I just picked up ABC HD DNS from LA on Direct and notice that everything local is in a widescreen format(not quite 16:9). Just wondering what I'm watching.

thanks

During non-HD programming KABC stretches their SD picture a bit leaving small black bars on the side. It's very annoying, but then I don't watch anything on ABC outside of primetime.
post #754 of 9442
kabc runs the HD channel (7-1) slightly stretched to 14:9.

ktla (5-1) stretches to 15:9.

IMHO, they're trying to get the general public used to the new shape of things to come. . .

irie,
--cap'n bob
post #755 of 9442
Quote:


Originally posted by bobhuntsman
kabc runs the HD channel (7-1) slightly stretched to 14:9.

ktla (5-1) stretches to 15:9.

IMHO, they're trying to get the general public used to the new shape of things to come. . .

irie,
--cap'n bob

Thanks guys, I was guessing 15-9, I've got about 3/4" pillar boxes, though the field of view is actually wider when compared to our local ABC7 SD in S.F.
post #756 of 9442
I just bought an HR10-250 to replace the SAT-T60 I've had the last few years so this is my first foray into HD. Love it! I'm getting the LA locals via OTA and Direct TV (network only). One show I was particularly interested in watching in HD was Enterprise on UPN. Although the show is great in HD, I'm not getting a DD5.1 stream. Is this always the case with the LA UPN affiliate?

Also, I was hoping to see more local sporting events in HD. There was a Laker/Clipper game in HD on KTLA, but the next Clipper game against the Warriors was not (probably because it was on the road). Anyway, is there any hope that channel 9 will broadcast more Laker games in HD or is this solely dependent upon where they are on the road and if the equipment is available? What's preventing FSN from doing all Laker and Clipper home games in HD? Staples is wired for it. They obviously have the equipment. Is it really that cost prohibitive? Direct TV doesn't get FSN HD right now so I have no way to watch them unless Direct TV rebroadcasts it on one of those open channels, but I would hope it's something coming in the not too distant future.
post #757 of 9442
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Originally posted by wxman1969
I just bought an HR10-250 to replace the SAT-T60 I've had the last few years so this is my first foray into HD. Love it! I'm getting the LA locals via OTA and Direct TV (network only). One show I was particularly interested in watching in HD was Enterprise on UPN. Although the show is great in HD, I'm not getting a DD5.1 stream. Is this always the case with the LA UPN affiliate?

Welcome wxman1969. I hate to disappoint you, but unless I missed something, KCOP is not passing any HD at this time, they're uprezzing the SD UPN feed.
post #758 of 9442
Well it's definitely a better picture than the SD feed I get from Direct Tv, but that would be a bummer if it's not true HD. The guide lists Enterprise as being in HD so it would seem that this would be a bit of a misrepresentation if they are just "uprezzing" an SD feed. I'm fairly certain that Enterprise was being filmed with HD equipment so I just assumed UPN was broadcasting it in HD.

By the way, does anyone know whether the Dodger or Angel broadcasts this year will be in HD? I can't even remember what channel they will be on this year.
post #759 of 9442
Quote:


Originally posted by wxman1969
Well it's definitely a better picture than the SD feed I get from Direct Tv, but that would be a bummer if it's not true HD. The guide lists Enterprise as being in HD so it would seem that this would be a bit of a misrepresentation if they are just "uprezzing" an SD feed. I'm fairly certain that Enterprise was being filmed with HD equipment so I just assumed UPN was broadcasting it in HD.


It is being shot in HD, but Fox owns KCOP and has no intention of upgrading KCOP to pass HD when UPN is only offering 1-2 shows in HD. Believe me this is very frustrating that the flagship UPN station isn't offering their programming in HD. The guide is simply wrong because they're using national guide data despite the fact KCOP cannot pass HD.
post #760 of 9442
Does anyone have any idea how to get the schedule for KOCE-HD 50-2? D* shows regular scheduled programming. KOCE's web site seems to only list the SD station 50-1.
post #761 of 9442
This is concerning the PSIP 2/1/05 deadline mentioned on the main local reception page.

I've noticed a great deal of change with the info data on our local channels. Prior to this, only KTLA had programming information in the electronic guide with other stations just leaving it blank. KCOP was always mapped to 66-1.

After going through channels today and checking info, it looks as if every channel has programming information now. KCOP is finally mapped to 13-1 for the first time since I had my HD box back in 2003.
post #762 of 9442
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Originally posted by StormCrow
Well...looks like KTLA blows it again.

Got Smallville on now and it is still a zoomed letterbox 4:3.

Is it just me?

Maybe too...KTLA and the WB will wise up and realize (Like KTTV/FOX finally did) people don't enjoy having the screen cluttered by 2 bright annoying logos.

I'm watching my recording of this weeks Everwood. No longer a zoomed 4x3....But the picture is awful and the audio is way out of sync.

KTLA....get it together!
post #763 of 9442
Tonight while watching "Dubbya" my NBC feed left its 4-01 spot on my channel lineup and went all the way up to 36-01...and remains there now (10:20PM). What is up with that???
post #764 of 9442
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Originally posted by riffell
Tonight while watching "Dubbya" my NBC feed left its 4-01 spot on my channel lineup and went all the way up to 36-01...and remains there now (10:20PM). What is up with that???

KNBC-DT occasionally has been having problems. Sometimes the picture goes blank, top half of the picture is jumbled up, or the occasional 4-1 <-> 36-1 PSIP swap. Kinda sad for a flagship west coast O&O station to run this kind of operation.
post #765 of 9442
I don't know if the recent Santa Ana breezes and unusually clear sky has anything to do with it, or if the Feb 1 date meant anything, but Channel 13, KCOP-DT, has shown a sudden signal strength jump here in Huntington Beach, 40 miles from the transmitters on Mt Wilson. It was running at about 62%, almost always not receivable, using my DVICO fusion 3 HDTV card in my computer. But in the last 2 or 3 days, suddenly I'm getting 87% signal strength!

Although it doesn't mean much, because all I have seen is poor quality, off-center programming. I want it to be better, because there is only ONE reason to watch Channel 13, and that is the SMOKING HOT, SUPER SEXY newsbabe, Lauren Sanchez!!

But the digital picture is no better than the analog Channel 13. Maybe worse. And again it is off center. I see a black bar on the left of my monitor. Weird.

Now I need KABC-DT to turn up their signal. I only get 35-40%. With a LARGE third story rooftop antenna. So I know the problem is not at my end.
post #766 of 9442
OK, a little background first. I was born and raised in LA (North Hollywood) and have been living in Chicago the past 2 years. I am moving back to LA this summer so I thought I would start to read through this thread to see the state of OTA HDTV in LA.
I am a bit concerned. Right now in Chicago, I would have to grade OTA HD a solid B+/A-. Generally great PQ, little to no audio issues, overall very happy, except for the fact that CBS is on VHF channel 3 so it renders my Silver Sensor (UHF only) useless for CBS, but I digress. As I read through the more recent posts, it seems that there is a lot of talk about bad PQ, audio dropouts, KTLA's general disarray, etc. from quite a few AVSers. What would you guys rate the current state of affairs with LA HDTV on a scale of 1-10? Thanks a lot in advance. Can't wait to be back in LA, real winters are not much fun : )
post #767 of 9442
I have very few problems with my OTA reception. I am in Van Nuys and I think B+/A- would be a fair asessment here as well.
post #768 of 9442
I would give L.A. an 8. We get the big 4, PBS and WB in HD. UPN isn't, but this is the first year that UPN is even sending HD so I'll give them a bit longer to work it out.
post #769 of 9442
Anybody having problems getting 5-1 and 5-2? I just lost KTLA today. I've also lost many UHF channels, like 28-1, 28-2, 34-1, 34-2, 50-1, 50-2, 56-1, 56-2, 58-1, 58-2, etc....was just wondering if this is happening with other receivers or if mine is starting to break down.

Thanks in advance.
post #770 of 9442
Yeah, KTLA-DT is down right now. And Ch 28 analog is off the air, so they have a problem.

I posted above that KCOP-DT was coming in much stronger. Now. KCAL-DT shot way up! It was running 62%. Now it is 87-94%! Wow.

All I need now is for KABC to go up from the 45% or so I get to 75+ and I'll be very happy. Ch 7 has so many news goddesses I want to drool over in digital

Did anybody else notice huge jumps in the signal strength at KCOP & KCAL, or am in a frequency warp down here in Huntington Beach?
post #771 of 9442
Regarding the question for L.A. Ratings:

IMHO

Los Angeles is a mixed bag. Personally I would expect better being a major entertainment center, studio town...etc.

On a 1 - 10 Scale

CBS - (8-9) Most consistant

KNBC - (6) Intermittantly loses HD and 5.1.

KTLA/WB - (5-6) Intermittant loss of HD and out of sync audio....also, two big bright disgusting logos.

KABC - (8) 720P looks great on my set...siganl a bit weak, occasional breakups or loss of HD....but rare.

KCAL - No HD

KTTV/FOX - (7) The engineers seem to be on the ball and they finally got one small logo in the corner. FOX shows though often don't have great pix quality.

KCOP/UPN (0) No HD

KCET/PBS - (4) Muticast causes awful motion pixelization and no 5.1 audio. They also have screen clutter with the big national PBS logo upper left and KCET's big logo, bottom right.

Edit - Re KTLA: I'm watching the Wed. 2/2 primetime shows and they are HD and I don't see the motion pixelization that has plagued their broadcasts. New gear? They were off the air yesterday (2/3)...not sure what's going on over there.
post #772 of 9442
Quote:


Originally posted by StormCrow
Los Angeles is a mixed bag. Personally I would expect better being a major entertainment center, studio town...etc.

On a 1 - 10 Scale

CBS - (8-9) Most consistant

KNBC - (6) Intermittantly loses HD and 5.1.

KTLA/WB - (4) Intermittant loss of HD and out of sync audio and about the worst pix out there....also, two big bright disgusting logos.

KABC - (8) 720P looks great on my set...siganl a bit weak, occasional breakups or loss of HD....but rare.

KCAL - (0) No HD

KTTV/FOX - (7) The engineers seem to be on the ball and they finally got one small logo in the corner. FOX shows though often don't have great pix quality.

KCOP/UPN (0) No HD

KCET/PBS - (4) Muticast causes awful motion pixelization and no 5.1 audio. They also have screen clutter with the big national PBS logo upper left and KCET's big logo, bottom right.

I would agree with most of this, but I find it hard to fault KCAL since they have no HD programming to air. In my mind they should be using their DTV signal to multicast time shifted news casts and weather, since that's the core of their programming.

Looking at it market by market, I'd say LA is in pretty good shape. NY has lots of DTV problems since 9/11, Chicago has that CBS VHF problem. SF has loads of problems with signal penetration and their NBC affiliate.
post #773 of 9442
Your right Mitch....I was going up the dial and did a "0" thinking of the basketball games. But that is a small chunk of their programming and they are Independent.

Thanks.
post #774 of 9442
Quote:
Originally posted by Larry Parker
Yeah, KTLA-DT is down right now. And Ch 28 analog is off the air, so they have a problem.

I posted above that KCOP-DT was coming in much stronger. Now. KCAL-DT shot way up! It was running 62%. Now it is 87-94%! Wow.

All I need now is for KABC to go up from the 45% or so I get to 75+ and I'll be very happy. Ch 7 has so many news goddesses I want to drool over in digital

Did anybody else notice huge jumps in the signal strength at KCOP & KCAL, or am in a frequency warp down here in Huntington Beach?

KCET HD (28.1) is off the air too. I wonder if there was some damage on Mt. Wilson due to the recent high winds.
post #775 of 9442
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Originally posted by Kaleo
Anybody having problems getting 5-1 and 5-2? I just lost KTLA today. I've also lost many UHF channels, like 28-1, 28-2, 34-1, 34-2, 50-1, 50-2, 56-1, 56-2, 58-1, 58-2, etc....was just wondering if this is happening with other receivers or if mine is starting to break down.

Thanks in advance.

I'm having the same problem and I live in Pasadena. I'm glad it just not me.
post #776 of 9442
Quote:
Originally posted by Kaleo
Anybody having problems getting 5-1 and 5-2? I just lost KTLA today. I've also lost many UHF channels, like 28-1, 28-2, 34-1, 34-2, 50-1, 50-2, 56-1, 56-2, 58-1, 58-2, etc....was just wondering if this is happening with other receivers or if mine is starting to break down.

Thanks in advance.

You guys have all done a re-scan, right?

Most stations made a change early this week to switch on PSIP guide data and I've read other posts where because the stations have now also brought their PSIP data into compliance, PIDs have changed (for instance), and a re-scan has been necessary.

I'll have to check KCET but I'm able to receive KCAL-DT without a problem.

Andy.
post #777 of 9442
Quote:
Originally posted by AndyS
You guys have all done a re-scan, right?

Most stations made a change early this week to switch on PSIP guide data and I've read other posts where because the stations have now also brought their PSIP data into compliance, PIDs have changed (for instance), and a re-scan has been necessary.

I'll have to check KCET but I'm able to receive KCAL-DT without a problem.

Andy.

Yep. Did several re-scans. No joy.
post #778 of 9442
Here in Valley Center I was receiving almost all LA stations with very good signal strength until yesterday. I too am missing 5, 7, 28, 50, and 58. 7 had been iffy in the past, but 5, 28, and 50 were always rock-solid, so their absense makes it seem like there's a problem on Mt. Wilson. Multiple rescans have made no difference. This is with the Pioneer 5040HD built-in tuner.

- Merle
post #779 of 9442
PHEW! Glad it's not just me. Last night (Thursday Feb 3) I noticed that I no longer have KTLA (5-1,5-2) or PBS (28-1) or KOCE (50-2). There may be others but those are the ones I noticed. I REALLY hope KTTV doesn't pull this crap on Sunday...else I'll have many angry guests. Could this PSIP thing have caused all this as well as causing my KNBC to go from 4 to 36 on my channel guide? I'll have to rescan tonight.
post #780 of 9442
They are all back on now. Because of number of stations down it must have been a tower or something.
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