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post #8461 of 9442
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Originally Posted by P Smith View Post

Hi-rise building , 20 floors ...

OMG! That's terrible. Oh well, that place is frakked. I did find out that the current house owner has satellite for TV. Weird that it works there.
post #8462 of 9442
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Originally Posted by phildaant View Post

OMG! That's terrible. Oh well, that place is frakked. I did find out that the current house owner has satellite for TV. Weird that it works there.

The satellite is way higher in the sky (23,000 miles) as opposed to Mt. Wilson (1 mile). So you can be closer to a hill and still have line-of-sight even though the satellite is much further away. But in your case, the satellite(s) would be to the south so the hill would not be in the way, anyway. So it's not weird at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_television
post #8463 of 9442
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Originally Posted by phildaant View Post

OMG! That's terrible. Oh well, that place is frakked. I did find out that the current house owner has satellite for TV. Weird that it works there.

For satellite TV is important to have unobstructed LOS - line of sight.
Check it at dishpointer.com for your satellites.
post #8464 of 9442
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Originally Posted by jmonier View Post

The satellite is way higher in the sky (23,000 miles) as opposed to Mt. Wilson (1 mile). So you can be closer to a hill and still have line-of-sight even though the satellite is much further away. But in your case, the satellite(s) would be to the south so the hill would not be in the way, anyway. So it's not weird at all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_television

Ahh and thanks.
post #8465 of 9442
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Originally Posted by P Smith View Post

For satellite TV is important to have unobstructed LOS - line of sight.
Check it at dishpointer.com for your satellites.

Nice web site, but I am confused on its results since I am not familiar how this satellite TV works (always used OTA and cable):

Satellite Data:
Name: 91W GALAXY 17 (G-17) | NIMIQ 1 | NIMIQ 2
Distance: 37698km

Dish Setup Data:
Elevation: 41.1°
Azimuth (true): 137.7°
Azimuth (magn.): 125.1°
LNB Skew [?]: -33.9°


Nearby Shops & Installers
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Satman Canada
logoWinnipeg
Phone: (204) 633-7287 (SATS)
sales@satmancanada.com

Description: On Line Store, Trimax Meter Distributor, Installs and Re-Points

satmancanada.com
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Galaxy Marketing
logo1200 Cobb Parkway North Ste 100B, Marietta, GA 30062
Phone: 888-333-5560
sales@galaxy-marketing.com

Description: Satellite dealer and wholesaler - Local pickup available for all of our products. We stock everything we sell.

galaxy-marketing.com
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HyperMegaSat.com
logoDavison, MI
Phone: 810-744-1488
sales@hypermegasat.com

Description: Online Satellite Store. Hard to find FTA satellite products. Fast, Free Shipping.

HyperMegaSat.com
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Sadoun Satellite Sales
logo2747 Westbelt Dr, Columbus, Ohio 43228
Phone: 1-888-519-9595
info@sadoun.com

Description: Dealer and distributor of satellite television systems and consumer electronics.

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sadoun.com
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BeamOn FTA Experts


I saw no big names like DirecTV, EchoStar, etc.? Maybe I need to ask this in satellite newsgroups and forums?
post #8466 of 9442
Looks like KFLA is back on RF 8. I breaks up a little, but maybe they are still adjusting it?
I can still pick up KFMB on my south facing antenna, also on RF8.
post #8467 of 9442
Those satellite retailers are for those interested in FTA, not Direct or Dish. As far as KFLA goes, it still shows RF 52 over here.
post #8468 of 9442
Looks like KFLA is still on RF52 as well. I see a weak signal, but not strong enough to lock in.
RF8 is strong enough to lock in, but it freezes up once in a while. First time I've seen Tuff TV, 8.3, in many months.
post #8469 of 9442
RF8.5 is now mapping over to 10.5 KIIO-5.
post #8470 of 9442
After more than six months, I am still unable to view KFLA in the San Fernando Valley. Would love to be able to watch KIIO as well, but am unable to pick up either signal.
post #8471 of 9442
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Originally Posted by phildaant View Post

OMG! That's terrible. Oh well, that place is frakked. I did find out that the current house owner has satellite for TV. Weird that it works there.

I visited the place (outside only) this morning again and I noticed this tower in the short NE distance: http://static.panoramio.com/photos/o...l/33774086.jpg ... I wonder if one could place TV antenna up there? Or maybe it's for mobile phones? T-Mobile phones' signals were very high. Hmm!

http://www.antennasearch.com/sitesta...number=1013567 ... A radio transmitter for a small college?
post #8472 of 9442
That's RIGHT place ! Go for it ! Good luck !
post #8473 of 9442
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Originally Posted by P Smith View Post

That's RIGHT place ! Go for it ! Good luck !

I assume that answer was for me (quote please). Do I have to do anything to ask to add my antennae to it?
post #8474 of 9442
I'm kidding ... No one will give you the permission.
post #8475 of 9442
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Originally Posted by P Smith View Post

I'm kidding ... No one will give you the permission.

Oh bah. You got me excited.
post #8476 of 9442
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Originally Posted by oc-rdx View Post

Looks like KFLA is still on RF52 as well. I see a weak signal, but not strong enough to lock in.
RF8 is strong enough to lock in, but it freezes up once in a while. First time I've seen Tuff TV, 8.3, in many months.

well oc-rdx, I'm lucky to live in zip code 90004 - I get KFLA on both RF8 and RF52 after doing a recent rescan of my DTV converter box (though the RF52 signal should be discontinued starting year 2012). KFLA on RF8 works better now than on RF52. I get close to 80% signal quality on RF8 and 45%-60% signal strength on RF52.

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Originally Posted by healthycityboy View Post

After more than six months, I am still unable to view KFLA in the San Fernando Valley. Would love to be able to watch KIIO as well, but am unable to pick up either signal.

did you do a rescan of your DTV set or DTV converter box and are still unable to pick up KFLA, healthycityboy? you may want to contact the KFLA station owner and tell him you still can't receive KFLA in the San Fernando Valley area, even on the improved RF8 signal.

btw oc-rdx & healthycityboy: KFLA channel 8.8 is no longer Vmas. It's now TVC+Latino.
post #8477 of 9442
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Originally Posted by erpster190 View Post

well oc-rdx, I'm lucky to live in zip code 90004 - I get KFLA on both RF8 and RF52 after doing a recent rescan of my DTV converter box (though the RF52 signal should be discontinued starting year 2012). KFLA on RF8 works better now than on RF52. I get close to 80% signal quality on RF8 and 45%-60% signal strength on RF52.


did you do a rescan of your DTV set or DTV converter box and are still unable to pick up KFLA, healthycityboy? you may want to contact the KFLA station owner and tell him you still can't receive KFLA in the San Fernando Valley area, even on the improved RF8 signal.

btw oc-rdx & healthycityboy: KFLA channel 8.8 is no longer Vmas. It's now TVC+Latino.

Reception of KFLA in the San Fernando Valley is most likely an impossibility. I have never received that station, either when tranmitting on RF8 or RF52. I often do get good reception of KFMB from San Diego on 8.1 and 8.2, especially during the summer months, but I I have never seen the slightest trace of KFLA even though I am using a Winegard YA-1713 roof antenna for VHF.
post #8478 of 9442
KFLA is coming in quite strong here in Canoga Park on RF 8. (95% strength, 29dB s/n) When it was originally on channel 8 a year or 2 ago it was always quite weak here. When it first moved to RF 52 it was quite strong here, but when they changed antennas it was not receivable here anymore.
post #8479 of 9442
KFLA has updated their website.

They are adding a translator near the KVCR tower.

http://www.kfla.tv/Viewer_Notice_1.html
post #8480 of 9442
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Originally Posted by HarrisonS View Post

Reception of KFLA in the San Fernando Valley is most likely an impossibility. I have never received that station, either when tranmitting on RF8 or RF52. I often do get good reception of KFMB from San Diego on 8.1 and 8.2, especially during the summer months, but I I have never seen the slightest trace of KFLA even though I am using a Winegard YA-1713 roof antenna for VHF.

I can't receive KFLA on RF8 in eastern Anaheim and I think I know why, adjacent channel interference from RF7 and RF9. This occurs if the adjacent channel power is 10 dB or more stronger than the desired channel. At my location the received power of KFLA is 50 dB less than KABC or KCAL per TVFool. No receiver can handle that power difference.

How are some people receiving KFLA considering the ERP differences?
post #8481 of 9442
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Originally Posted by oc-rdx View Post

KFLA has updated their website.

They are adding a translator near the KVCR tower.

http://www.kfla.tv/Viewer_Notice_1.html

Don't you mean transmitter?
post #8482 of 9442
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Originally Posted by oc-rdx View Post

KFLA has updated their website.

They are adding a translator near the KVCR tower.

http://www.kfla.tv/Viewer_Notice_1.html

This is excellent news for those of us who are blocked from Mt. Wilson by too many hills.

Yea, I have Verizon, but I'm old school and like OTA options. After all, it's hard to DX with FiOS.
post #8483 of 9442
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Originally Posted by drewdawg View Post

...yea, i have verizon, but i'm old school and like ota options. After all, it's hard to dx with fios. :d

dx?
post #8484 of 9442
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Originally Posted by retiredengineer View Post

I can't receive KFLA on RF8 in eastern Anaheim and I think I know why, adjacent channel interference from RF7 and RF9. This occurs if the adjacent channel power is 10 dB or more stronger than the desired channel. At my location the received power of KFLA is 50 dB less than KABC or KCAL per TVFool. No receiver can handle that power difference.

How are some people receiving KFLA considering the ERP differences?

Very good points. KABC 7 and KCAL 9 both come in here "against the pin" all the time, and are undoubtedly far stronger. Apparently KFMB is at times strong enough to overcome any interference.
post #8485 of 9442
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Originally Posted by phildaant View Post

Don't you mean transmitter?

No, translator. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadca...st_translators

- Trip
post #8486 of 9442
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

No, translator. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadca...st_translators

- Trip

Ah, interesting and thanks.
post #8487 of 9442
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Originally Posted by retiredengineer View Post

I can't receive KFLA on RF8 in eastern Anaheim and I think I know why, adjacent channel interference from RF7 and RF9. This occurs if the adjacent channel power is 10 dB or more stronger than the desired channel. At my location the received power of KFLA is 50 dB less than KABC or KCAL per TVFool. No receiver can handle that power difference.

How are some people receiving KFLA considering the ERP differences?

For me, the strength of KFMB determines how well KFLA comes in. Earlier this morning, KFMB was coming in strong & KFLA was breaking up. Now, KFMB is breaking up & KFLA is strong & steady.

I have two antennas, one facing south for San Diego & the other facing Mt Wilson.
post #8488 of 9442
The last time I ran a scan was on December 17 when I set up my new tv. Nothing turned up. So, I will try again and see what happens. I got a new antenna last spri g and was able to pick up KFLA for a couple of months, until around June 6.

Contacting the owner hasn't yielded much success. I've done it three times and have given up ever getting any sort of response.
post #8489 of 9442
KFLA - Channel 8, Los Angeles will change over to it's new higher power channel 8 transmitter and antenna Saturday afternoon (12/31). Viewers must do a new scan of their TVs to be able to continue to receive KFLA's programs.

Those wanting instructions to scan their TVs will find them at our website - kfla.tv.

Los Angeles area viewers that do a new scan this week should be able to receive the signal from the new transmitter - it is on the air running program tests. In some case your TV may find the signals from both the new ch 8 transmitter and the old ch 52 transmitter. If so your TV may setup two sets of channels for KFLA in your TV.

If your TV sets up two channel lineups for KFLA simply do another scan after Saturday to remove the second set of channels or manually remove them from your line up. You must do a new scan. An "add channels" scan may not remove the old channels from your line up.

The new 3 KW signal will significantly increase the coverage of the station. The station is already getting signal reports from new viewers that have never been able to receive the station before.

Those viewers in the Eastern San Gabriel Valley and the Inland Empire will probably not be able to receive the new signal because we are still required to "protect" channel 8 in San Diego - meaning we are not allowed to transmit any signal towards San Diego.

The good news is we have a fix. We are waiting for FCC approval to install a second transmitter to serve your areas and hope to have this complete within 90 days.

Those interested in a more technical explanation of our changes can be found on our website - kfla.tv

We sincerely thank everyone for their support.

Roy Mayhugh
KFLA, Channel 8, Los Angeles

PS being a new "poster" to this forum I was not allowed to post the links to our website - sorry for the inconvenience.
post #8490 of 9442
You must be pretty high up on the face of the San Gabriels if you're able to get KFMB San Diego - the Hollywood Hills do a very good job of blocking signals from San Diego in most parts of the Valley. There is a pretty good coverage map on the website site - thanks goes to Trip at Rabbit Ears for this. A look at the map might be helpful.

The new KFLA signal towards the San Fernando Valley is not that much less than KABC ch 7 and KCAL ch 9. And the new antenna is at the 350' level on the CBS tower - much higher than the ch 52 antenna. If you get KABC and KCAL I'd be surprised if you don't get the new signal from KFLA.
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