Originally Posted by Dave Loudin
Um, no. 99% of a TV signals in Los Angeles transmit from Mt. Wilson, NOT from their studio locations.
Warning! That Monoprice antenna has an amplifier. You DO NOT NEED such a thing, especially an exceedingly cheap one that will do nothing but add distortion and noise to your signals. If you have a clear shot to Mt. Wilson, an RCA ANT-751 or a Channel Master 2016 will do fine. Don't try any of the fancy flat antennas - they generally have poor VHF performance.
If you do not have a clear shot to Mt. Wilson, then larger antennas will be needed. The predictions at tvfool.com will tell you if you do (use your EXACT address when using it).
My RS has an Amp, does fine pulls in almost everything. Even ION TV which is 30.1 and in the Red Zone (Medium Directional) according to Antenna Web and TV Fool. I used Antenna Web for its currently location back in 2007...
Getting 100-102 channels in that location. KOCE-DT4 (50.4) breaks up a little but channels father away like ION TV come in perfect no problems. This antenna works fine in this location with an amp. Installed the USB Tuner and it also breaks up with 50.4 as I recorded DW Journal and it breaks up a little bit. It comes with one of tiny telescope antennas, but picking up UHF even with that is not an issue and it picks up 102 channels when the Cat's Eye with the RS Surf Board picks up about 99-100 channels.
I was under the impression VHF is harder to get as even simple rabbit ears don't get 7,9, 11 and 13 clearly passive or amp. As I said it positioned about level with the fence and right in front of all the foliage. At that point the antenna is four feet off the ground. The Radio Shack is three feet higher at seven feet and does MUCH better. When all the signals where UHF, I got ALL THE CHANNELS and never considered moving it from its current location.
As I said 2.1 doesn't break up but pauses every few minutes. Same with 50.4, I don't think its location so much but maybe design, I believe this antenna is directional, I could be wrong.
I thought about combining the DTV signal and the OTA signal, I know how to get the right frequency combiners not a complete newbie to electronics. Here's my conclusion...
1) I am trying to make a good decision, these post complicate things.
2) Why would a similar designed antenna that's amplified result in worst performance? Its just tuned for Hi-VHF when the Radio Shack isn't and won't pick up a SINGLE VHF channel. What confused me more is as I said a tiny antenna is again strong on UHF pick up at 6-7 feet but terrible at 4 feet and VHF in either location is non-existent with that tiny antenna to pick up Hi-VHF (or any VHF). But even out in the open it didn't pick up VHF, I was in Downtown LA at Occupy LA out in the open, nothing blocking it. All UHF channels came in, VHF? Nothing, tells me this simple antenna is not tuned to get Hi-VHF.
So why wouldn't a similar design work that's tuned to get Hi-VHF with about the same strength on the UHF?
Why wouldn't a non-amp Leaf or similar Winegard work in the same area as the RS, seven feet off the ground when there's where most people put it?
All the local outlets have terrible selection and most of the time outdoor antennas. Walmart has the Philips Outdoor/Indoor designed much like my current antenna for about $40. The Monoprice is $20, similar design.
I just don't know if the Leaf would improve the two UHF channels that are not marginal but not perfect either. I thought about putting it outside but doubt it would improve things much. If its cost more its not worth it.
Current record schedule goes like this -
DTV 8am-9am, DTV 11am-11:30am, DTV 4pm-5pm, OTA 6pm-6:30pm and again at 8pm-8:30pm that's every day M-F
I don't watch MLB anymore, so racing is my main thing this time of year. 95% is not broadcast in America on conventional TV. But Indy Car is on ABC twice in July (along with the ALMS) and I would like to get the 720p feed. F1 on Fox, the next three races are on Fox, the rest on Speed, if I want to watch in HD, I can wait a few hours with the time different between here and Europe and download the BBC or ITV feed, I usually just watch it on Speed, but I can use RSS feeds if I want and its a good back up. When it goes back to being on Speed, I can finally setup the feed like it needs to be. I'm in a flux moment with my HTPC this second ASRock motherboard may get RMA'ed.
So its $20 for the Monoprice or $35 for the Leaf? I don't think mounting it outside would improve things, not enough for the trouble involved. I also talked to a Leaf owner who lives in my exact area and he gets the same amount of channels I do, but all the VHF when I get none and its mounted in a window too.