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post #8941 of 9442
Wow! With a RCA ANT751 antenna and my DTV Pal DVR in the old place, I can pick up KCIO-LP weakedly (unstable up from 0% to 50% signal strength), and it has sixteen/16 channels? I have never seen that many channels OTA before around here. That's nuts! :O http://www.rabbitears.info/tvq.php?request=items&call=KCIO-LP&arch= says Victorville (NE from where I am). Can anyone else get it? If so, then what's on it? I can't find much about it.
Edited by phildaant - 9/23/12 at 10:19pm
post #8942 of 9442
KCIO? That station doesn't have a permit to operate digitally. What is it mapping to and what do you see on it?

- Trip
post #8943 of 9442
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

KCIO? That station doesn't have a permit to operate digitally. What is it mapping to and what do you see on it?
- Trip
26. I wonder if it is new. I just reconnected my DVR last night since after London's Olympics opening ceremony, but then I didn't have RCA ANT751 antenna connected back then.
Edited by phildaant - 9/24/12 at 6:34am
post #8944 of 9442
The only 26-x I know of in that area is KVHD-LD 40. Did it ID as KCIO?

- Trip
post #8945 of 9442
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

The only 26-x I know of in that area is KVHD-LD 40. Did it ID as KCIO?
- Trip
Oops, you're right. It does say KVHD-LD. That is still a lot of channels on it!
post #8946 of 9442
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Originally Posted by phildaant View Post

Oops, you're right. It does say KVHD-LD. That is still a lot of channels on it!

Well it appears that there are gaps in the channel numbers, and six of them are "audio only" which are very narrow band of course.

Video

26-1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8

Audio

26-10 -- NV-360

26-12 -- AIR 1

26-13 -- NEW-360

26-14 -- N.VIDA

26-15 -- MEX-360

26-16 -- EXITOS

Total of 7 Video SD channels and 6 Audio only = 13
post #8947 of 9442
Saw a rumor than KNBC 4.2 is airing some occasional off-net reruns during the day, as a possible pre-cursor to the morphing of Nonstop into BobTV. Can anyone confirm?
post #8948 of 9442
Anyone notice a weakening of signal to ABC 7? In the last day or two it's dropped off completely and sometimes a slight bounce to 10-12 percent. No other channels seem to be affected so I don't think it's my antenna. I'm out in Rancho Cucamonga, 91739.
post #8949 of 9442
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Originally Posted by SD73 View Post

Anyone notice a weakening of signal to ABC 7? In the last day or two it's dropped off completely and sometimes a slight bounce to 10-12 percent. No other channels seem to be affected so I don't think it's my antenna. I'm out in Rancho Cucamonga, 91739.

Yes; I attribute it to the weather.
K-CAL has not worked for days.
post #8950 of 9442
7.1, 7.2, 7.3 good here this morning.

FYI.
post #8951 of 9442
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Originally Posted by Teeps View Post

Yes; I attribute it to the weather.
K-CAL has not worked for days.

Tropospheric conditions can affect your reception.

This site is interesting
http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo_wam.html

I don't have problems with the LA stations, but when the tropo effect is strong, I pick up additional San Diego & TJ stations. At the same time, two San Deigo stations(KPBS & Fox69) that come in reliably during most the year, will sometimes drop out with a strong tropo effect.
post #8952 of 9442
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Originally Posted by oc-rdx View Post

Tropospheric conditions can affect your reception.
This site is interesting
http://www.dxinfocentre.com/tropo_wam.html
I don't have problems with the LA stations, but when the tropo effect is strong, I pick up additional San Diego & TJ stations. At the same time, two San Deigo stations(KPBS & Fox69) that come in reliably during most the year, will sometimes drop out with a strong tropo effect.
Interesting web site and maps. That explains why I saw a SD station (ABC) a couple times in La Habra Heights, CA 90631.

Am I reading these maps correctly? Higher intensities will have interferences and weird results? Is there a way to prevent this beside getting more powerful antennae and going higher? What was the highest/worst ones in L.A. area?
Edited by phildaant - 10/16/12 at 1:02pm
post #8953 of 9442
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Originally Posted by phildaant View Post

Interesting web site and maps. That explains why I saw a SD station (ABC) a couple times in La Habra Heights, CA 90631.
Am I reading these maps correctly? Higher intensities will have interferences and weird results? Is there a way to prevent this beside getting more powerful antennae and going higher? What was the highest/worst ones in L.A. area?

I'm no expert, but normally the higher the intensity, the further distance the signal will travel. Summertime is when the San Diego & TJ stations are the stongest for me.
post #8954 of 9442
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Originally Posted by oc-rdx View Post

I'm no expert, but normally the higher the intensity, the further distance the signal will travel. Summertime is when the San Diego & TJ stations are the stongest for me.
Ah, thanks. Interesting.
post #8955 of 9442
Just to update this thread with my signal loss of ABC 7 I thought I'd post my resolution. After waiting a bit more for the one station to return I spent a little time examining my antenna. Although the antenna itself was still anchored securely and pointing properly part of the cable I setup as a loop on the mast wasn't. For those that may not have read about this little "trick" that was either earlier in this thread or one of the other antenna threads it's basically just using some excess cable to make a UHF loop similar to what our old TV's used to have. I never really noticed much of a difference with it, but evidently when the wind had messed up its position the one station that really benefited from it was lost. I went from the signal barely showing up to 50 percent strength after the fix. My next move will be to find some sort of pliable plastic to reinforce it with so I don't go through this again.
post #8956 of 9442
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Originally Posted by SD73 View Post

Just to update this thread with my signal loss of ABC 7 I thought I'd post my resolution. After waiting a bit more for the one station to return I spent a little time examining my antenna. Although the antenna itself was still anchored securely and pointing properly part of the cable I setup as a loop on the mast wasn't. For those that may not have read about this little "trick" that was either earlier in this thread or one of the other antenna threads it's basically just using some excess cable to make a UHF loop similar to what our old TV's used to have. I never really noticed much of a difference with it, but evidently when the wind had messed up its position the one station that really benefited from it was lost. I went from the signal barely showing up to 50 percent strength after the fix. My next move will be to find some sort of pliable plastic to reinforce it with so I don't go through this again.

ABC7 is a VHF station so don't understand why making a UHF loop helped your ABC7 reception
post #8957 of 9442
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Originally Posted by retiredengineer View Post

ABC7 is a VHF station so don't understand why making a UHF loop helped your ABC7 reception

I can't understand it either. But I do know that was the only thing left that I thought I'd try out of pure desperation. I could move it, check my signal strength, and see the difference. Again, no real difference anywhere else. Go figure?
post #8958 of 9442
Hello!

My in-laws live in Fountain Valley and just bought an HDTV. I recommended them to get an antenna installed on their roof to get local channels, since they just want the major networks and such. I live in Northern California and I couldn't find any antenna installers on Yelp. Wondering if anybody here has recommendations for somebody who does antenna installation in that area?

Thanks smile.gif
post #8959 of 9442
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Originally Posted by SD73 View Post

I can't understand it either. But I do know that was the only thing left that I thought I'd try out of pure desperation. I could move it, check my signal strength, and see the difference. Again, no real difference anywhere else. Go figure?

A lot depends on what antenna you're using, information I don't see posted.
post #8960 of 9442
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Originally Posted by ProjectSHO89 View Post

A lot depends on what antenna you're using, information I don't see posted.

91XG
post #8961 of 9442
The 91XG is an UHF antenna only. Not designed to pickup VHF. It is more likely that you are actually receiving ABC7 on the shield of the coaxial cable if you are in a strong signal area. The ABC7 signal propagates up the cable to the antenna then reflects back down the cable to the TV. That is probably why moving the cable affects your reception. Just like in the old analog days when you had to move your indoor antenna around for the best analog picture.

You should consider adding a Hi-VHF antenna such as the YA-1713 and joining the two signals with a UVSJ. You will get a more reliable reception of ABC7 and the other VHF stations.
post #8962 of 9442
There should be no expectation of picking up VHF stations with a 91XG since it wasn't designed for it. Any VHF reception achieved with one is purely coincedental to its design intent. It is best to plan for VHF separately.
post #8963 of 9442
Thank you both for your input. 7 is apparently the only station I have with a weak signal. Even so, up until this point it came in very reliably. And with the signal still showing 50 percent I have no issues. 9 thru 13 all show up at about the same level and those have never presented a problem. I've never had channel 8 and from the sound of a lot of the others here, it's pretty weak anyway. However, I will take the joiner and secondary antenna into consideration if the issue returns. That's good advice and I appreciate the help!
post #8964 of 9442
64-1 KILM (RF44) is coming in here for the 1st time.
post #8965 of 9442
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Originally Posted by oc-rdx View Post

64-1 KILM (RF44) is coming in here for the 1st time.
Yay for infomercials. wink.gif Wow, isn't that far or is there a translator near Irvine?
post #8966 of 9442
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Originally Posted by phildaant View Post

Yay for infomercials. wink.gif Wow, isn't that far or is there a translator near Irvine?

Based on TVFool, looks like it is coming from Mt Wilson or Mt Havard. No infomercials so far, but Battlecam is always showing in the evenings.
This use to be KHIZ which was too weak to pick up here.

Here is their website. http://www.filmonla.com/
post #8967 of 9442
According to Rabbitears, KILM has not been licensed to transmit from Mt. Harvard. I cannot receive it even though KILM is stronger than KCBS which I do receive.

Perhaps Trip can clarify and update KILM's status.
post #8968 of 9442
KILM is using a channel on KFLA channel 8 and using the PSIP of 64.1.
post #8969 of 9442
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Originally Posted by LATV View Post

KILM is using a channel on KFLA channel 8 and using the PSIP of 64.1.

That makes sense. I had been unable to pick up any trace of KILM until today, and now, with the change in the weather today, all of a sudden both KILM and KFLA are coming in.

I have found that KFLA comes in fairly well during the winter and spring months, but then "goes away" until fall. The exact opposite is true of the San Diego stations. It may be that KFMB and KFLA mutually block each other, or it just may be that weather conditions that favor one are unfavorable to the other. In any case, I have never received KFLA and any San Diego station at the same time.
post #8970 of 9442
Hello.

When will KCBS be removing its TV Guide feed feature for its over the air (OTA) feed?

I found this bad news out from http://www.avsforum.com/t/1099071/the-official-avs-dish-dtvpal-dvr-topic/14910#post_22575336 thread -- "Beginning on November 1st 2012 and completing in April 2013 Rovi will be discontinuing the broadcast data service for consumer electronic guides in North America. The guides known as Guide Plus+, TV Guide on Screen and the Rovi Guide will no longe

Thank you in advance. smile.gif
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