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Weigel (and their main programmer) is the Ted Turner of the 21st Century!

Then Weigel should get wrasslin' like TNA or ROH. Some people think that if Ted Turner had never lost control of TBS/TNT, WCW would have been on the air over there forever. Instead, wrestling was gone from TBS/TNT in 2001.

I really like the way CoziTV (4.2) broadcasts in 16:9. I wish all the SD channels did the same (for when they show movies, at least). Looks like the new Fox "Movies" channel will be 16:9 as well (according to RabbitEars.info).

But my main wish is that all TV was uncensored. There's no need for it these days. I believe all modern TVs (and converter boxes) offer parental lock features, right?

Try this
www.mediabistro.com/tvspy/fox-to-debut-all-movie-network-for-local-tv-digital-subchannels_b79010

No problem if it's cable but if it's the public airwaves then our "friends" at FCC come into the picture.

Thanks. Spring. I wonder when exactly. ;P

FCC comes into the picture for both; they just "censor" less on advertiser supporter cable channels and very minimally on premium channels.

Honestly I like it broadcasted in the shows original format . Like 4:3 for the bionic man or if a later generation show like CSI Miami in its original 16:9 format it too easy to get rid of the black bars by zooming the picture. I don't like a fat squat jaba the Thomas Magnum or Steve Austin LOL!!!! Honest with 50's,60's, 70's and 80's tv shows did such a job of self censorship its a non issue (nypd blue and few others as a exceptiond to the rule) . I really get cheesed off at members (who obvious are employed by pay tv companies or producers of cable tv shows) that you have to have a $100.00+ cable bill to watch "quality TV" it's insulting ones intelligence at best . Ive have check out the so called highly rated cable shows online (in cable terms they get more than 500000 people a episode to watch) the rash of zombie/ vampire / violence porn ie game of thrones, Dexter, etc.... leave me cold and the life styles of the rich and crass ie mad men , nip and tuck, bore me to death and I would NOT pay stupid big monthly cable bill to watch them . With my crazy schedule right now I don't have a lot of leisure time to watch all cable bs. With stupid charter to get the dvr , 2x hd boxes and the cable package for the cable channels I like it would be about 120.00 not including internet service. Right now Ive got excellent ota tv , my Tivo and amazon prime I am covered for my Tv viewing enjoyment and can get what I want right now. Ive had both netflix and hulu plus and cancel both because I dont have time to justify the expense of their month subscriptions . So I am very happy with the shows I have access to on OTA tv btw my new favorite tv show this season is CBS Vegas.

You mean Cozi is always 16x9 and stretches out 4x3 content: Ouch! I will have to experiment with my format button to get it back to 4x3 when appropriate...

I get what you say about cable programming, but I do like my Netflix subscription: I can watch all that $100/month stuff at $8/month; I just have to wait a little while longer!

iTunes, when I cannot wait...

I don't know about LA, but in Chicago, the channel is always 16:9, but 4:3 content isn't stretched out. Those programs have the bars on the left & right. For 16:9 programs, it's shown in 16:9. For SD, it's not bad, though not crisp.

No if I had more viewing time on my hands I probably activate netflix and or hulu plus again . One thing I wish was the case more dvd sets were able to be purchase and viewing via streaming . I have got limited storage space and one thing I factor in , in my purchasing decisions of dvd/blueray season sets will I watch this set enough to have to store it? Example one great guilty pleasures from childhood is the original Thunderbirds tv series which I recently purchased the series though amazon's video streaming and its plays great. I wish every tv series I'm interested in had that option because I'm running out of room store dvds and dvd sets.. Also due to time issues I have had this year I've passed on dvd sets (traditional boxed sets or streamed) due to viewing time issues , ah California lotto take me away so I'll have more viewing time LOL
Edited by bob1xxx - 2/10/13 at 5:26pm

No, Cozi doesn't stretch 4:3 content. It is presented in the normal aspect ratio (with black columns on the sides). But they broadcast in 16:9, so if you are viewing on an old 4:3 TV set, you'll probably have black bars on the top & bottom as well as on the sides. But on today's 16:9 sets, the content looks fine.

But like the other retro channels, Cozi often airs movies as well, and this is where it's nice to have them broadcasting in widescreen, so you can see the movie with no letter boxing. Other channels (like This TV and ME-TV and Antenna TV) crop widescreen movies to fit a 4:3 format.

My point about uncensored TV also has more to do with when OTA channels play movies; but I admit, I do wish all TV was uncensored. Talk shows, news broadcasts, sitcoms - why do I have to be treated like a child when parents have the tools to block whatever they feel necessary?

Does anyone know when KCBS will drop its Rovi's TVGOS feed OTA? I know some cities already dropped it.

For those still with TVGOS feeds, does your KNBC4 station show 30 minutes of new Office episode tonight? Three online TV guides say it is an hour. It looks like TVGOS is getting outdated/incorrect data these days?
Edited by phildaant - 2/14/13 at 10:29am

Not sure about your TVGOS question, but my Tivo says tonight's episode of the Office is, indeed, one hour long.

Thanks.

Does Cozi broadcast using a real 16:9 widescreen SD raster (yeah), or do they broadcast letterboxed in a 4:3 raster (boo). It will probably be a long time, if ever, before we get Cozi in Bakersfield. Our NBC affiliate (KGET RF 25 virtual 17) has CW on -2 and Telemundo on -3. Telemundo is also broadcast in low power analog on channel 11. If they ever do switch Telemundo to digital they will probably keep the simulcast on KGET because of the much greater range of the full power station. This backwards [donkey] market is lacking many of the major subchannel services. The only oldies channel we get is ThisTV, and that may be going away of FOX convinces their affiliate here to drop it in favor of the new FOX movie channel.

Its real 16:9. No letterbox. Don't know why they all don't broadcast this way, unless it requires more transmission "space" or whatever you call it.

I've been told that it doesn't require more bandwidth to run a widescreen 480i channel. It would be nice if more stations would run subchannels in widescreen, if the bulk of their programming is in widescreen (16:9). I even wish This TV were in widescreen, since many movies they show were originally made in 16:9 (anamorphic widescreen) or 21:9 (cinemascope), & they're starting to show some of those in widescreen, but squished down to fit 4:3. I don't know about Los Angeles for stations that run subchannels in 16:9, but WMAQ-TV runs Cozi in 16:9 (that was setup during the NBC Nonstop days) & WYIN (licensed to Gary, IN & mainly serves NW Indiana) runs a locally programmed PBS Kids channel in 16:9. Livewell Network wasn't actually counted as ABC runs it in HD, but the affiliates aren't running it in HD like ABC O&O are doing. Not all affiliates are running it in 16:9 either.

Our local Antenna TV is 480i widescreen, WGHP 8-2. They show commercials, local news, and Fox College football on Antenna TV in widescreen SD. (Fox College Football is moved to 8-2 when WGHP 8-1 is showing ACC Network games). It should be LAW that all channels are broadcast in 16:9 widescreen, regardless if they are SD or HD. The pandering to old TVs is just plain unacceptable. The lack of consistency in aspect ratio is annoying.

That's more than just what people think, it's pretty accurate. When AOL came into the picture, they didn't want wrestling on their networks. It might have been OK if they were still drawing the numbers they did in 97-98, but they lost so much of that audience by the end.

This is how Vince McMahon came to buy WCW for a song. AOL wanted to sell WCW, and Eric Bischoff was leading a group to buy it. But that group was only going to buy it with the TV timeslots still in tact. Vince didn't want or need that, he just wanted the tape library and to cherry pick the talent.

But there's a lot of things Ted Turner wouldn't have done.

For only the 2nd time in the years I have had an HDTV tuner,
I notice KRCA 62.1 has 4 SAPs, which seem to be other
Spanish FMs such as KBUE. For a short time last year several of the KFLA multicasts
had multile SAPs.

I thought AOL's desire after acquiring Time Warner was to get rid of all non-media subsidiaries. Time Warner sold Six Flags around the same time.

WCW's numbers were not that bad even at the end. True the numbers were not like it was at its peak, but it was okay. TNA or ROH never came close to WCW at its worse. Even the cult favorite ECW never drew ratings like WCW. Problem as you said was they were losing too much money. Plus, wrestling does not attract the same amount of advertising revenue as more "cultured" programming with the same rating.

Even if Eric Bischoff bought WCW, who knows how well they would have done? Bischoff at the time was saying guys like Sean O'Haire & Mark Jindrak were the future of wrestling. We know those two never did much in the industry. Bischoff running a promotion would just mean even more invasion angles. Bischoff is not even the head of TNA and yet he is doing in 2013 yet another invasion angle in the form of Aces & Eights.

With KBEH 63 being the first CNN Latino affiliate in the country, broadcasting a block from 3-11pm on weekdays on the .1 feed, all traces of Tr3s have been removed from all of its feeds. Was searching the channels, and it appears that Tr3s is fully gone from the market. Meanwhile, SOI, which was dumped from Telemundo's .3 feed a month or so ago, has turned up on KBEH's 63.3.

Interesting. Spanish CNN shows OTA instead of paid subscription service. Too bad no English CNN OTA. :P

CNN Latino is separate from cable's CNN En Espanol though it repurposes some of that network's programming for the weeknight 3-11pm block; there is also some locally produced content specific to Los Angeles. KBEH is the pilot affiliate for a hoped-for national rollout. Outside of CNN Latino's broadcasting hours of weeknights from 3-11pm, KBEH's 63.1 feed programming is, of course, infomercials.

I saw KPMR come in several times during last summer when I was visiting Riverside.

LA's low-power VHF 10 is now broadcasting an Armenian channel in HD and what sounds like 5.1 or 2.2.

Looks and sounds darn good even on a CRT set via the Zenith CECB.

PBJ etc have been dropped though there are infomercials, by the looks of it, on 10.2

Also KMRZ, I think it is, showed up sometime before Christmas and is on virtual 69 - another Venture Technologies outlet.

KCET has dropped their kids channel on 28.2 and now has KCETLink a result of their merging with Link TV from San Francisco.
Edited by BondiBluey - 3/15/13 at 10:57am

KCBS2.2 just appeared. I guess KCBS's HD signal quality will no longer be one of the best. That just leaves KCAL.