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post #9061 of 9442
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Originally Posted by gonzo90017 View Post

Is Cool TV no more? All I see now is QVC.

The Cool continues in some markets, but seems to have a rocky road association with some of their affiliate stations.
post #9062 of 9442
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Originally Posted by KenMacG View Post

Last night FOX 11.1 disappeared. Did rescan. Their 720P HD signal is now showing as 11.3, and 11.2 is showing same content as SD signal.

I didn't watch ch. 11 last night. In any case, it is back to normal now and 11.1 is back and is showing 720p. Also, there is no subchannel 11.3 anymore.
post #9063 of 9442
Did KTLA 5.1 mess up during the beginning of tonight's Arrow episode #20? For an example, http://i.imgur.com/435vVSO.jpg from my HDTV recording. Another one was showing 2.5 Men. Sheesh.
Edited by phildaant - 4/24/13 at 10:19pm
post #9064 of 9442
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Originally Posted by phildaant View Post

Did KTLA 5.1 mess up during the beginning of tonight's Arrow episode #20? For an example, http://i.imgur.com/435vVSO.jpg from my HDTV recording. Another one was showing 2.5 Men. Sheesh.
Yep, KTLA messed up after I asked about it through web site's contact form last night and just got its e-mail reply/response:

"... KTLA experienced technical problems within the first three minutes of 'Arrow' which caused 11 seconds of an Arsenio Hall promo and 6 seconds of a Two And A Half Men promo to interrupt the program.   Engineering maintenance personnel were on hand to correct the problem and take steps to prevent it from occurring again.   We are sorry for the disruption this caused..."
post #9065 of 9442
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Originally Posted by phildaant View Post

Yep, KTLA messed up after I asked about it through web site's contact form last night and just got its e-mail reply/response:

"... KTLA experienced technical problems within the first three minutes of 'Arrow' which caused 11 seconds of an Arsenio Hall promo and 6 seconds of a Two And A Half Men promo to interrupt the program.   Engineering maintenance personnel were on hand to correct the problem and take steps to prevent it from occurring again.   We are sorry for the disruption this caused..."
Arsenio really wants to be back biggrin.gif
post #9066 of 9442
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Originally Posted by tenthplanet View Post

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Originally Posted by phildaant View Post

Yep, KTLA messed up after I asked about it through web site's contact form last night and just got its e-mail reply/response:

"... KTLA experienced technical problems within the first three minutes of 'Arrow' which caused 11 seconds of an Arsenio Hall promo and 6 seconds of a Two And A Half Men promo to interrupt the program.   Engineering maintenance personnel were on hand to correct the problem and take steps to prevent it from occurring again.   We are sorry for the disruption this caused..."
Arsenio really wants to be back biggrin.gif
Haha. He was in Celebrity Apprentice. Now, he returns for his show. Wait, what show was KTLA trying to show?
post #9067 of 9442
When I was channel surfing this weekend, I came across channel 6. I knew that it had been added as a sub channel on RF22, but didn't notice previously that it was mapping to virtual 6. I haven't check to see if it is still broadcasting on analog 6.
post #9068 of 9442
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Originally Posted by oc-rdx View Post

When I was channel surfing this weekend, I came across channel 6. I knew that it had been added as a sub channel on RF22, but didn't notice previously that it was mapping to virtual 6. I haven't check to see if it is still broadcasting on analog 6.
IIRC as a few weeks ago, analog channel 6 was still on the air. Just umm not watchable with all of its snow in my area. wink.gif
post #9069 of 9442
Venture is trying to flip the KSFV-CA and KMRZ-LD licenses around so that the Class A license is on UHF. (Presumably so it's worth more in the auction.) They filed to license KSFV-CA on 22 digital just in the last few days.

- Trip
post #9070 of 9442
Pardon me if I missed this posted here earlier;

But didn't know that KRCA 62-1 was broadcasting in HD format (720p) now. Though I see Trip has it updated on RabbitEars so I guess its been out for a while now. Just noticed it when my satellite discussion group posted a notification of DIRECTV adding it as an HD test feed to the LA market's locals done prior to a formal launch.

And I emphasize in "HD format" only since it appears, for now anyway, to be just up-converted 4:3 SD with stretch-o-vision to 16:9. Yuck ...
post #9071 of 9442
Hey Trip;

Since its been this way a long while now, I was about to suggest a needed correction for KILM 64-1 on RabbitEars, where the main sub. 64-1 is actually in widescreen (16:9) 480i. Though interestingly when I went to do a final check on the station before posting, it seems to be off the air for some reason. Or at least their Mt. Wilson transmitter is.

I'm pretty sure its still broadcasting in widescreen 480i though since DIRECTV still has KILM up. And though like all (to my knowledge) other of DIRECTV's SD feeds on their Ku band its in a 4:3 format, DIRECTV does not properly crop the native image to 4:3, but sends the native 16:9 image squeezed into a 4:3 frame..
post #9072 of 9442
Hey:

KFLA 64-1 is already listed as widescreen SD. To the best of my knowledge, last time I heard, KILM's main transmitter is off the air.

- Trip
post #9073 of 9442
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Hey:

KFLA 64-1 is already listed as widescreen SD. To the best of my knowledge, last time I heard, KILM's main transmitter is off the air.

- Trip

Oh OK, I see;

I forgot that from Mt. Wilson, KILM is actually a sub-channel of KFLA 8.6 physical mapped to 64-1 virtual.

But I was looking under the entry for KILM on RabbitEars, which still list the data from previous station KHIZ in Barstow, CA.

Does this mean though that in Barstow KILM was (before their main transmitter went down anyway) broadcasting two 4:3 SD sub-channels OTA like their predecessor KHIZ?
Or that you just have no updated information for the Barstow off-air broadcasts since the switch to KILM to place in the RabbitEars entry for KILM?
post #9074 of 9442
I don't have any updated information on KILM, so its listing will remain as-is until new data is available. It is up to date as of 8/7/11, prior to picking up FilmOn TV.

- Trip
post #9075 of 9442
Just saw a commercial on Fox 11. Movies! channel will be added on Memorial Day. On channel 13.3. So be sure to rescan!
post #9076 of 9442
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Originally Posted by gonzo90017 View Post

Just saw a commercial on Fox 11. Movies! channel will be added on Memorial Day. On channel 13.3. So be sure to rescan!
Will it be in HD? Any schedules of what it will be shown?
post #9077 of 9442
I only managed to catch the tale end of the commercial. But from this article http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/491563-Fox_O_Os_Weigel_Launch_Movies_Digi_Net.php it seems the movies will be broadcast in 16 by 9. But no idea if that means HD.
post #9078 of 9442
Many tuners don't need a re-scan to add sub-channels. You might have to go into the channel list and "turn on" the new sub-channels. If in doubt, though,a re-scan will certainly do the trick.
post #9079 of 9442
Great news! Thanks for the info. Glad to hear it will be 16x9. I don't have my hopes up for HD, though; I fully expect it to be SD.

I wonder if my Tivo will have the guide info ready for Day One, or if I'll have to wait a month for them to get around to it. (Bugs me the way channel 8 keeps moving RTV around -- my Tivo still has it listed as 8.4 instead of 8.1, meaning I can't schedule an automatic recording by show name.)
post #9080 of 9442
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Originally Posted by gonzo90017 View Post

Just saw a commercial on Fox 11. Movies! channel will be added on Memorial Day. On channel 13.3. So be sure to rescan!

I like the fact they're putting it as a sub-channel of KCOP and not KTTV to keep FOX-HD quality. I'm just hoping when they bring out CBS's new sub-net they put it over on 9.2 to keep CBS-HD sharp. cool.gif

It's not like Movies! can't be HD with ABC running LiveWell in HD. Besides, KCOP's 720p HD is kind of disappointing.
post #9081 of 9442
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Originally Posted by Dante_101 View Post

Great news! Thanks for the info. Glad to hear it will be 16x9. I don't have my hopes up for HD, though; I fully expect it to be SD.

I wonder if my Tivo will have the guide info ready for Day One, or if I'll have to wait a month for them to get around to it. (Bugs me the way channel 8 keeps moving RTV around -- my Tivo still has it listed as 8.4 instead of 8.1, meaning I can't schedule an automatic recording by show name.)
You're welcome. I know what you mean about RTV. Luckily it's not that difficult to remap a channel using Mediaportal.
post #9082 of 9442
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Originally Posted by Drewdawg View Post

I like the fact they're putting it as a sub-channel of KCOP and not KTTV to keep FOX-HD quality. I'm just hoping when they bring out CBS's new sub-net they put it over on 9.2 to keep CBS-HD sharp. cool.gif

It's not like Movies! can't be HD with ABC running LiveWell in HD. Besides, KCOP's 720p HD is kind of disappointing.
Ya I thought it was just me. Why the hell is KCOP's picture quality so awful? Are KTTV's SD channels running on KCOP's sub-channels?
post #9083 of 9442
Yes, 11-2 runs off the KCOP transmitter.

- Trip
post #9084 of 9442
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Originally Posted by Drewdawg View Post

I like the fact they're putting it as a sub-channel of KCOP and not KTTV to keep FOX-HD quality. I'm just hoping when they bring out CBS's new sub-net they put it over on 9.2 to keep CBS-HD sharp. cool.gif

It's not like Movies! can't be HD with ABC running LiveWell in HD. Besides, KCOP's 720p HD is kind of disappointing.

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Originally Posted by gonzo90017 View Post

Ya I thought it was just me. Why the hell is KCOP's picture quality so awful? Are KTTV's SD channels running on KCOP's sub-channels?

Man, I know that KCOP-13 is owned by Fox and is thereby free to treat its bandwidth as their sacrificial lamb along with practically everything else to do about the station. But c'mon ... as you say with KCOP's PQ already suffering due to being squeezed to death for bandwidth, I would have hoped Fox would give KCOP a break and spread the burden around a bit by carrying "Movies" as a secondary sub-channel on channel 11.

I mean its not like they can't spare the bandwidth on channel 11 what with only one 720p program and a Mobile DTV channel there.
post #9085 of 9442
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Originally Posted by Drewdawg View Post

I like the fact they're putting it as a sub-channel of KCOP and not KTTV to keep FOX-HD quality. I'm just hoping when they bring out CBS's new sub-net they put it over on 9.2 to keep CBS-HD sharp. cool.gif

It's not like Movies! can't be HD with ABC running LiveWell in HD. Besides, KCOP's 720p HD is kind of disappointing.


No. Being something of a "news junkie", I watch ch. 9 a lot more than I watch ch 2, since it often carries the news when no one else does. I do watch 60 Minutes and very occasionally other news items on KCBS, however. They are of excellent PQ, however, many of the other CBS programs are not so good: CSI has generally only fair PQ and NCIS often looks terrible, being very fuzzy for some reason - worse even than SD in fact.

With regard to KTTV and KCOP, I understand that 11.2 and 11.3 were only added because boith stations were running at reduced power at the time, and some viewers were unable to receive one or both reliably. 11.3 was carried on KAZA and as already mentioned 11.2 was carried on KCOP 13. I believe that 11.3 was discontinued sometime back in 2010, even though TV Guide still shows it in its listings. It makes no sense whatsoever to keep 11.2 on the air today, since both stations are running at full power. If they get rid of 11.2, then ch 13 would have only 13.2 as a subchannel, and the HD on 13.1 would probably look fairly decent.
post #9086 of 9442
Doesn't KCOP-13 air Bounce on 13.2, and Movies! on 13.3, in addition to their MyNetworkTV service on 1`3.1?
post #9087 of 9442
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Originally Posted by rdvegas View Post

Doesn't KCOP-13 air Bounce on 13.2, and Movies! on 13.3, in addition to their MyNetworkTV service on 1`3.1?

Almost correct;

KCOP is running MyNetwork TV on the main sub-channel virtual 13-1, Bounce TV on 13-2, Movies! on 13-3 (when it formally launches on Memorial Day), plus lends the sub-channel bandwidth of "physical" 13.4 mapped over to display as "virtual" 11-2 which serves as a 4:3 SD version of KTTV 11-1 HD.

A bit confusing I know, but that's how its done.
post #9088 of 9442
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Originally Posted by HarrisonS View Post

... With regard to KTTV and KCOP, I understand that 11.2 and 11.3 were only added because boith stations were running at reduced power at the time, and some viewers were unable to receive one or both reliably. 11.3 was carried on KAZA and as already mentioned 11.2 was carried on KCOP 13. I believe that 11.3 was discontinued sometime back in 2010, even though TV Guide still shows it in its listings. It makes no sense whatsoever to keep 11.2 on the air today, since both stations are running at full power. If they get rid of 11.2, then ch 13 would have only 13.2 as a subchannel, and the HD on 13.1 would probably look fairly decent.

Frankly, its still a head-scratcher for me as to why stations broadcast SD mirrors of their main HD sub-channel on a secondary. I mean, I've heard explanations in the past like this one for instance 2 years ago by the General Manager of WLS-TV in Chicago which I've always assumed applied to KABC-7 here as well for why the then Accu-Weather channel on 7-3 was replaced with an SD version of the Live Well Network on 7-2 in HD.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/815397/chicago-il-ota/9900#post_20073841

http://www.avsforum.com/t/815397/chicago-il-ota/9900#post_20076485

Yet any MSO, satellite, cable, or Telco should have down-conversion and formatting equipment for the HD feed which may create these SD versions without the need for dual HD/SD feeds from a content provider.
post #9089 of 9442
Darn it .... mad.gif

Looking at the preview testing of Movies!, it appears to be in 16:9, but anamorphically squeezed into 4:3.

Why do broadcasters do that instead of simply sending it in actual 16:9?

This screws up my default format settings on both my TV and more importantly my DIRECTV DVR where I now have to manually switch the format settings to widescreen for either the TV or DVR and then back again for proper viewing of all other channels.

Note: That is for the D* DVR, it "all other 4:3 SD channels" except KILM-64 which on DIRECTV is 16:9 anamorphically squeezed into 4:3 as well.
Edited by HoTatII - 5/25/13 at 8:32am
post #9090 of 9442
It's supposed to be 16:9 SD like COZI is on 4-2. Not sure why KCOP would be running it in 4:3 mode.

- Trip
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