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post #781 of 1188
WFBN-LP (33) finally back with programming. (Until the transmission path breaks down again)
post #782 of 1188
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Originally Posted by hvs10trk View Post

WFBN-LP (33) finally back with programming. (Until the transmission path breaks down again)

In HD? And what is channel 25 I see on the broadcast/transmitter maps? It's listed as digital, but I can't find it in scans.
post #783 of 1188
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In HD? And what is channel 25 I see on the broadcast/transmitter maps? It's listed as digital, but I can't find it in scans.

Hardly. Its just a translator of WFBT in Chicago. Its all ethnic programming. Channel 25 is Trinity Broacast Network. Its still an analog 1kw transmitter.
post #784 of 1188
Did the QAM channels change for Insight in Rockford, IL? I'm not detecting any 8x.1 channels anymore when I do a scan. Instead, I'm getting 13-1 (NBC), 17-1 (ABC), 23-1 and 23-2 (CBS), and 39-1 (FOX).
post #785 of 1188
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Originally Posted by chuckywang View Post

Did the QAM channels change for Insight in Rockford, IL? I'm not detecting any 8x.1 channels anymore when I do a scan. Instead, I'm getting 13-1 (NBC), 17-1 (ABC), 23-1 and 23-2 (CBS), and 39-1 (FOX).

Yep, here too. PBS stayed in the high numbers. I get program info on the channels that remapped lower now, too.

-Carter
post #786 of 1188
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Originally Posted by ctsiegf View Post

Yep, here too. PBS stayed in the high numbers. I get program info on the channels that remapped lower now, too.

-Carter

Which QAM channels do you get exactly? What is the channel for PBS?
post #787 of 1188
Anyone know if you can get QAM channels using charter with only analog cable. I have scanned a few times and don't pick up any
post #788 of 1188
My SDTV's program guide always lists the programming on FOX 39 DT as DTV Program, I was wondering if it does that to every one or if it's just my SDTV.
WIFR DT had the same thing after their 23-2 problems in April but in the last couple of weeks it has started displaying the program and description again.

I don't have cable or Sat. only an indoor antenna.
post #789 of 1188
Gentlemen,

Can you PRETTY PLEASE put this to rest once and for all by making a phone call or two for me and others on AVS?

The next 4 Formula 1 races are on FOX. Will they be widescreen (16:9) or 4:3, and will they be DD 2.0 or 5.1?

I know Bernie doesn't have them in HD yet (by the end of the season they will per Mr. Ecclestone), but I know the feed they give FOX network is widescreen if they want it.
post #790 of 1188
Just curious, I had posted quiet a while ago that some change over on 17-1 is causing my Samsung SIR-TS360 box to reboot when they do transitions from commercials back to programming. When they go from programming to commercials I will often hear a loud digital squack but it doesn't reboot the box at that point. In the past, the box just sort of locked up, now it's rebooting.

Am I the only one having this problem? Is there someone I can contact, or is it just that the folks over at 17 don't care if I can watch their station or not? {slight sarcasm}
post #791 of 1188
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Originally Posted by n9yty View Post

Just curious, I had posted quiet a while ago that some change over on 17-1 is causing my Samsung SIR-TS360 box to reboot when they do transitions from commercials back to programming. When they go from programming to commercials I will often hear a loud digital squack but it doesn't reboot the box at that point. In the past, the box just sort of locked up, now it's rebooting.

Am I the only one having this problem? Is there someone I can contact, or is it just that the folks over at 17 don't care if I can watch their station or not? {slight sarcasm}

Forwarded to the appropriate person.
post #792 of 1188
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Originally Posted by hvs10trk View Post

Forwarded to the appropriate person.

I really appreciate that. I've been watching 27-1, but believe it or not I'm one of those strange people that actually would prefer to see local news and even the local commercial spots. Hopefully they'll get it sorted out. They're welcome to contact me if testing with my box would be of any use to them, I'll do whatever I can to assist. Thanks! Steve
post #793 of 1188
hi. i don't know much about this forum so please forgive me if this isn't a place to ask this question.

we have directv here in rockford but don't get any of the HD local channels. is there any other way to receive those channels in HD? we live in an area that doesn't get cable so directv is our option for now.

thanks
post #794 of 1188
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Originally Posted by tvkid View Post

hi. i don't know much about this forum so please forgive me if this isn't a place to ask this question.

we have directv here in rockford but don't get any of the HD local channels. is there any other way to receive those channels in HD? we live in an area that doesn't get cable so directv is our option for now.

thanks

This would be the place! Welcome to the forum. The only way you can get them is via an antenna hooked up to your boxes, for now. I suspect it won't be for another year or more until you get them via DirecTV. If you are within 30 miles of the stations, you should be able to get them well with a medium-sized antenna in the attic. If you are closer than, say, Belvidere or Rochelle, a UHF antenna should work decently.
post #795 of 1188
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Originally Posted by sebenste View Post

The only way you can get them is via an antenna hooked up to your boxes, for now. I suspect it won't be for another year or more until you get them via DirecTV.

And I think the consensus (and just plain truth of the matter) is that you will actually get the best picture by using an over-the-air antenna rather than DirecTV even when they get Rockford locals. That may change with their new MPEG4 streams, but I know currently they compress stuff to a greater degree than the over-the-air transmissions.

If that info is out of date, please, somebody, correct me.
post #796 of 1188
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Originally Posted by sebenste View Post

you should be able to get them well with a medium-sized antenna in the attic.

If the antenna is outside it will get better results
post #797 of 1188
Is FOX EVER going to be HD in Rockford?
post #798 of 1188
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Originally Posted by captclueless View Post

Is FOX EVER going to be HD in Rockford?

It's been HD for like 7-8 months, and high power for a few months.
post #799 of 1188
Why couldn't WIFR broadcast the Bears game in HD last night? I've talked with people in chicago that had the game in HD there. Was someone asleep at the switch again?
post #800 of 1188
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Why couldn't WIFR broadcast the Bears game in HD last night? I've talked with people in chicago that had the game in HD there. Was someone asleep at the switch again?

I believe WMAQ-DT (the NBC affiliate in Chicago which showed the game) only uplinked it in SD to the other 7 markets who showed it. That's typically how it goes when a local station produces a sports broadcast like this. Because the other affiliates who are on the Bears preseason network are small market, it is a lot cheaper to send it out in 4:3 SD, including to WMAQ's sister station WSNS-DT, the Telemundo affiliate here, in the same building! I'm 99.99% sure WIFR can't be pointed to for a lack of HD on that game.

Thursday's game will be in HD for WMAQ, but for the other 8 stations, including WSNS-DT, no. A list of those stations is here (although they forgot to include WSNS-DT).

http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/television.html
post #801 of 1188
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Originally Posted by Roadboss View Post

Why couldn't WIFR broadcast the Bears game in HD last night? I've talked with people in chicago that had the game in HD there. Was someone asleep at the switch again?

Nobody asleep. WMAQ-TV was the origionator of the game thus it was Fibered to them. From there they uplinked in SD to the rest of the world.
post #802 of 1188
Thanks for the explanation guys. I'm so spoiled now watching things in HD that I get my nose out of joint hearing someone else has it in HD and I don't. Maybe soon this will all shake out if the government actually goes through with the HD mandate this time.
post #803 of 1188
Do you guys happen to know if they will be upgrading the signal to HD for the Bears games this season or the next? I'm looking to get the Samsung 260F and a DB2 for my apt in Rockford and I don't think I'll be able to get the Chicago signal directly.
post #804 of 1188
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Originally Posted by Baenwort View Post

Do you guys happen to know if they will be upgrading the signal to HD for the Bears games this season or the next? I'm looking to get the Samsung 260F and a DB2 for my apt in Rockford and I don't think I'll be able to get the Chicago signal directly.

Well this season, preseason is over with. Next season I would doubt it.
post #805 of 1188
Hey Im coming back to rockford/machesney park in 1 month and wondered what antenna to get to pick up chicago locals, if I can get them at all...?

Will the 91xg from antennasdirect do it? It actually seems too big for me so any info before I come home is greatly appreciated.
post #806 of 1188
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Originally Posted by angrydad View Post

Hey Im coming back to rockford/machesney park in 1 month and wondered what antenna to get to pick up chicago locals, if I can get them at all...?

Will the 91xg from antennasdirect do it? It actually seems too big for me so any info before I come home is greatly appreciated.

Hi Angrydad,

Well, you have a *shot* at it. A guy who has a Winegard HD8200P can get WTTW-DT (PBS) from State Street just east of downtown, IIRC. You are correct in that you'd need that antenna or a ChannelMaster 4228 for any chance of getting it. As always, line of sight with Chicago is about 60 miles; after that, no promises. You would also need a ChannelMaster 7777 preamp or similar to beef up the signal to lock it.

P.S. If you put that on a rotor, you'll easily get Madison, WI stations.

P.P.S. You won't get WPWR-DT (MNTV), which broadcasts on 51; there's a low-power analog WCFC-CA 51 on the north side of Rockford. Also, WYCC-DT gets interference from WHA-TV analog 20 in Madison; WCIU-DT gets interference from WKOW-TV analog 27 in Madison, and WTTW-DT can get interference from the FOX affiliate in Madison. But with the highly directional Yagi, you *may* be able to null them out, as others have, to get the Chicago stations. Be advised, however, that in 2009, WLS-DT goes to channel 7, and WBBM-DT goes to channel 12. The monster Winegard HD8200P may be the long-term antenna you need.
post #807 of 1188
sebenste,

Thanks for your input. When you say "WYCC-DT gets interference from WHA-TV analog 20 in Madison" for example, can you clarify for me a bit?

Does this mean sometimes I would get each of these channels, or does it mean I dont get them at all..Im confused.

Also when certain channels move to VHF, Shouldnt I just be able to hook a VHF antenna up to this preamp you mentioned?
post #808 of 1188
Hi,

Has anyone else here in Rockford just recently lost the Madison PBS (WHA-DT) station? I had been getting it for the past year or so, but it's been out all this past week. Superficially, my antenna appears OK, and I can still get other Madison digital stations. I'm curious if WHA-DT is down, or if I've got other problems going on.

Thanks,

Sean
post #809 of 1188
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Originally Posted by angrydad View Post

sebenste,

Thanks for your input. When you say "WYCC-DT gets interference from WHA-TV analog 20 in Madison" for example, can you clarify for me a bit?

Does this mean sometimes I would get each of these channels, or does it mean I dont get them at all..Im confused.

No problem, because I made a mistake. WYCC-DT broadcasts on channel 20;
WYCC-TV analog broadcasts on channel 20. WHA-TV (analog) broadcasts on channel 21; they broadcast digitally on channel 20). So, WYCC-DT would get interference from WHA-TV analog 21.

Also when certain channels move to VHF, Shouldnt I just be able to hook a VHF antenna up to this preamp you mentioned?[/quote]

Yes, that's the beauty part of it. Initially, WLS and WBBM would be at low power, but WBBM has proven they can go to high power. WLS might be hobbled in some directions because of channel 7 digital signals in surrounding markets.
post #810 of 1188
sebenste,

Excellent info. Thank you. Im stuck in Beijing for a bit longer and cannot test anything out here.

Im now wondering if I should just forget Chicago channels, and focus on Madison with a smaller Antenna (wife freaked when I showed her the xg91, and HD8200P). Would the antennasdirect 42xg be worthwhile to me? If I had a sure thing in capturing Chicago channels I could prolly persuade her in a bigger unit.
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