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post #1501 of 1734
There's a Crescendo Systems transcoder on sale at ebay right now... much cheaper than a new one from the crescendo systems website.
post #1502 of 1734
I can't get any of the settings to work.

All I get is colored bars. I've tried pretty much every setting.

I'm using a DVI to HDMI converter connected to a ATI Radeon 9000.
post #1503 of 1734
If I hook up my pc (6800 GT) via a transcoder into my 4 year old Mitsubishi 65" Set, 1770x1000 seems to be the best high-rez timing mode to use.

What would be the optimum resolution for progressive, say if you wanted to run a desktop at that rez?

Also for games, you can just edit the cfg files and choose 1770x1000 as the custom resolutions (for games that support it) and it should work?? The TV will know that resolution can't be rendered progressively and will insetad render it interlaced?

What is the optimum gaming resolution for a bigscreen TV like that if you wanted to stay progressive (remember CRT interlaced RPTV we're talking about here)....???

Many Thanks
post #1504 of 1734
Hi, I'm looking for some suggestions how to configure Powerstrip for a Philips Matchline Pixel Plus wide screen TV (according the manual it supports 2048x833 pixels).

Using an ATI X1300 card with a VGA to Scart cable connected to my TV
(MCE2005).

Suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks.
post #1505 of 1734
I was able to set up my HTPC with a ATI 9700 PRO to my Pioneer 64" using PS and the guide in this thread a year or so ago. No troubles what so ever and everything has been fine ever since.

Went to install the latest Catalyst (5.1) with this CCC thingy today (without removing the previous drivers) and while the ATI install worked, Power Strip stopped working. I couldn't get any of my presets over 720x480 to work.

Removed the ATI Drivers/software using their utility and Windows XP would no longer install the Video Card. Neither would the ATI installer work

Kept getting a "could not install the driver, please set your video card up as a standard VGA Adapter" error.

Long story short no matter how many times I re-booted neither WinXP or ATI could install the card anymore. Fortunately I have images of my PC's so I restored it to the way it was before.

Has ne1 had a similar experience?

Thanks
post #1506 of 1734
The key is to let windows install your adapter as a standard VGA one (640x480, 16color driver).

When you're back at your fugly looking desktop in 16 glorious colors (EGA Woo!), go into control panel and Remove all incidents of ATI drivers that my be installed. Do a google search for "ATI Uninstaller" or "ATI Driver Cleanup" applications..these can scan your registry for you and remove all references to ATI drivers and products. You may or may not need one of these apps.

Lastly, reboot.....and then install the latest ATI drivers again, things should hopefully go more smoothly this time.

If Powerstrip is enabled at bootup, I'd disable it for these processes.....as it may or may not have an effect on tying up drivers or something so thatt he old install/uninstall didn't go all the way through...but thats just a guess, no real info to back that statement up.

Good Luck.
post #1507 of 1734
Thanks for the info HeadRusch, but I'm telling ya, nothing worked.

Unintalled PS, used the ATI uninstaller to remove thier stuff (which doesn't get everything), manually edited the registry to remove references to both ATI and PS. Spent half the morning before giving up.

I do this stuff for a living and have for 13 years now, so on the weekends the last thing I want to do is PC/network support.
post #1508 of 1734
Hmmmm.......I'm afraid I'm tapped. At this point I'd be offloading my Outlook Express DBX files and re-formatting the hard drive
post #1509 of 1734
Hi,
Not sure what software dvd player your using or which transcoder from PC to TV but regardless of pwrsr, the ATI connector or the software dvd program (due to copy protection rules) will not alow you to scale a store bought dvd past 720 X 480p.

I use a PCI card vid scaler (HOLO3D from Immersive technologies) but it only works with outboard dvd boxes. So it fools ATI and XP becuse they can't regognise the 1080i siggnal because it's not comming from a program in the PC.

I also have an AudioAuthority and a KeyDigital tanscoder that will give you different rezes with powerstrip. I think Zoom dvd Player may allow you to do what you want.

Peter M.
post #1510 of 1734
I think the key here would be to rip to HD and remove copy protection....wouldn't that work?

Since you own the DVD, I would have no moral qualms about storing that film on a HD for the purposes of upscaling with a HTPC, like you can upscale with a set-top player.

Also I believe there are software TSR's that can be run that negate those signals at runtime, so you can play your original in the DVD drive without incident...is the dongle reliant upon detecting a macrovision signal or something in that regard?
post #1511 of 1734
I have a ultra high end VGA cable (I forgot where I got it but it was from a AV supplier not a computer store) running from the VGA out on the ATI card to the HD port on my Pioneer SD-643HD5.

I use Theater Tek or ZoomPlayer to either play a DVD from the drive in the HTPC or I'll rip it to and image and use Alcohol 120 to mount it.

As part of my Home Theater Setup I have a Pioneer DVD-47A but what fun is that

As to the morality thing, I don't download movies, as I find the quality quite poor.
post #1512 of 1734
Hi, I have been looking but couldnt really find exactly what I am looking for. Can anyone tell me what are the best powerstrip settings for this combo (sp4805/radeon 9800) .. I would like to watch some dvds wich i guess are 480i and some 720p stuff also. what would be the best resolutions/timings for viewing these? I tried doing 854x480 which is the PJ's native resolution but i dont know the other timing settings becuase it looked like crap and i couldnt read text.

please anyone help meee!!

thank you!

triS
post #1513 of 1734
Quote:
Originally Posted by petermwilson View Post

Hi,
Not sure what software dvd player your using or which transcoder from PC to TV but regardless of pwrsr, the ATI connector or the software dvd program (due to copy protection rules) will not alow you to scale a store bought dvd past 720 X 480p.

You lost me on that one.

I have a Radeon 9600 with the YPB adaptor and have my graphics card set to 1280x720.

That is the native resolution for the TV (720P) and Theatertek or WinDVD play back just fine.

What would I see if it was NOT scaling past 720x480P? Would you expect it to NOT fill the 1280 x 720 screen?


Thanks
post #1514 of 1734
Hi,
As I mentioned before it's been 4 or 5 years since I've use a PC based dvd program and I know there are work arounds for the (your not allowded to do that) type screens I used to get when trying t9o go past 720 X 480P.

If you would like to see what I'm talking about, right click the ATI icon in the task bar and then click "Help". It will take you to the ATI Catalyst support site which warns that problems may occur.

Peter M.
post #1515 of 1734
I think it is a copy protection thing, when I try to play a dvd in mce, it will not work, I forget the exact message, but it says it can't. Running AnyDVD gets around the issue, or just use dvddecryptor to hard drive.
post #1516 of 1734
Jay, read this:
http://blogs.msdn.com/david_fleischm...24/484219.aspx

Looks like that was your issue. Macrovision was preventing upscaled DVD output over an analog output. Pretty ridiculous. Luckily AnyDVD gets rid of Macrovision.
post #1517 of 1734
Hi,
I think it might be HDCP and not Macrovision. I'm not sure it MultiRez powerstrip's sister program can help but if you can fool the software dvd program combined with the video card that the rez on the screen is 720 X 480p when in fact its something else you'll be good to go

Peter M.
post #1518 of 1734
anyone know if ATI has one or multiple adapters from dvi to component? I have Radeon 8500 (not AIW), and the only dongle on ati's website says support for 9x series plus 8500 AIW.....

I found ageneric one on newegg but it has no details, and comes in black instead of the blue ati one..

Also, pardon my ignorance, but will the dongle make it possible to output 1080 without too much tweaking? The only reason I'm considering to buy, is because with my current vga connection to my hdtv, even with hours of searching for settings on the web, and tweaking w powerstrip, I only get 848x480 (and it doesn't look perfect either. A little blurry around the corners, but I can live with it for mediacenter purposes (not for watching dvds though..)

I'm basically hoping to just set radeon drivers to 1080 resolution, no tweaking, and use dipswitches on the dongle, hoping it will somehow 'finetune' so it works well. (if not, I don't see why they would even offer a component dongle??)
post #1519 of 1734
Hi,

I spent about an hr onthe phone with an ATI tech a couple of weeks ago discussing drivers for the HDTV OTA tuner and connections to my HDTV.

I had the AIW8500dv and used the dongle with the dipswitces.
I told him that I've had the 700 PRO and now the 850 and find that the dongle gives a better picture from the DVI out digital port than the s/vid to component analog connector.

The reason the conversation lasted so long is because he said the dongle shouldn't work with either the 700 or 850.

I told him that if you set your rezes in powerstrip the Catalyst program will add them to the list.

The trick seems to be to turn off powerstrip after you've got the rezes you want.

He said they might write an addendum to the "not supported" page.

Peter M.
post #1520 of 1734
Hi Peter,

Thanks for the response. Just a couple of questions though; You mention s/vid to component connector. Do you really mean VGA? I thought s-vid is a different kind of signal (and inferior to vga and dvi) Also, is it made by ATI?

Also, I already have powerstrip installed, so when I choose rezes from the list in the drivers, 1080 comes up. Is that all that is needed, or do you actually need to tweak before uninstalling?

Thanks!

-Tom
post #1521 of 1734
By browsing some more, I found the answer to one of my questions; apparently ati has a vga to component adapter, so I suppose this is what you meant. However, can't seem to find anyone selling them (atis webstore does not list it even).

Also, I'm intrigued about possible support for dvi version, so please elaborate

On a related topic, AnyDvd would take care of DMCP (or whatever they call it)...right? Since my tv does not have dvi or hdcp, I HAVE to get my pc to scale movies through component. I own 400+ movies, and would like to see them in the best possible quality...

The reason I am asking;some people mention copyprotected dvds can not be shown with the adapter. On the ATI website it has a blanket statement that says DVD's cannot be shown...Not sure which is correct...
post #1522 of 1734
Hi,
I recently got for a LCD 15.4" Wide screen monitor that calls for a 1024x768 resolution. I have a Intel Graphic Card and using Windows XP. How to add it as a custom resolution, when I use Autocad, circle become ellipse. How to repair this problem?

Any ideas/guesses on how to set this resolution would be much appreciated.
post #1523 of 1734
Hi,

You may have a 4:3 image that you've forced into 16/9 in powerstrip.

peter m.
post #1524 of 1734
Hi, Petermwilson!

I have Powerstrip V3.49, but menu "Advance timing option" is invisible. I can not change custom resolution. Perharp my Intel(R) 82845G/GL (onboard) is too old?

How to have a 16:9 image in powerstrip?

Thank you!
post #1525 of 1734
Hi,

I would suggest that you right click on the powerstrip icon, then options and go to their forum. it will save you alot of experimenting.

Peter M.
post #1526 of 1734
Hi,

I've already changed it in powerstrip. Powerstrip don't support for Card onboard that why menu "Advance timing option" is invisible. When i change 16:10 image, it's ok.
(NVidia Card of other computer and my 15.4 LCD)

Thanks!
post #1527 of 1734
I have tried everything possible with CCC but I still cannot get it to give me a working 1080i resolution. Here is my setup:

HTPC with ATI Radeon 9800 Pro connected via DVI to HDMI cable to a Sony KD-30XS955. I have the latest Catalyst drivers (6.1) installed (which fixed the blackout issue).

However, I still cannot get a working 1080i resolution. I tried adding custom 1080i resolutions but when I "Apply" them in CCC they disappear from the custom resolution list. Right now I am using the "720p Optimized" resolution (1152x648 @ 60Hz). Anyone found a solution to this problem?

Thanks,

Adam
post #1528 of 1734
Hi,
You still don't have a transcoder to Component (which you need) get the ATI Comonent Dongle Not the hose the one with the dipswitches. ATI may tell you it doesn't work but I've used it with the 70pro AGP and now the 850 AGP.

You cannot do a striaght digital pass through. It has to be either analog to analog with the s/vid type to component hose, but even better is the dongle from the DVI port (make sure you order the DVI dongle not the VGA one.

In CCC allow for a 1980 X 1080i at 30hz after youve created it in powerstrip.

Before you try and implement it in CCC close powerstrip.

Peter M.
post #1529 of 1734
Quote:
Originally Posted by petermwilson View Post

Hi,
You still don't have a transcoder to Component (which you need) get the ATI Comonent Dongle Not the hose the one with the dipswitches. ATI may tell you it doesn't work but I've used it with the 70pro AGP and now the 850 AGP.

You cannot do a striaght digital pass through. It has to be either analog to analog with the s/vid type to component hose, but even better is the dongle from the DVI port (make sure you order the DVI dongle not the VGA one.

In CCC allow for a 1980 X 1080i at 30hz after youve created it in powerstrip.

Before you try and implement it in CCC close powerstrip.

Peter M.

If I understand you correctly, there is no way to get a 1080i resolution to work using only a DVI-HDMI connection, regardless of whether or not I use Powerstrip?
post #1530 of 1734
Has anyone connected a laptop with the ATI Mobility Radeon 9200 to a display with 1366x768 resolution? I have the sony 40xbr1 LCD and it comes with HDMI and VGA inputs. I would like to connect my laptop with the above video card to the TV and display at the highest resoultion possible. It seems like my graphics card only supports 1024x768. Any ideas?
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