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post #12031 of 12505
Thread Starter 
What Dave said. +1

The model number or a picture of the RCA antenna would be helpful.

Oh, and welcome to AVSForum!
post #12032 of 12505
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

Multipath. Try pointing the antenna about 20 degrees off the actual direction. If the antenna is amplified, try turning the amplifier off. And it would be helpful to know which antenna you are using. Those large skyscrapers at Markham and University are great reflectors for multipath.

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Originally Posted by arxaw View Post

What Dave said. +1

The model number or a picture of the RCA antenna would be helpful.

Oh, and welcome to AVSForum!

My antenna is an RCA ANT751R

No amplifier, but I was wondering if i needed one. Hopefully not...

I will try rotating to a different angle and rescanning. thanks!
post #12033 of 12505
Thread Starter 
You shouldn't need an amp, being that close to Shinall Mtn. And the ANT751 should be plenty of antenna for your location. As Dave said, your problem is probably multipath. In addition to re-aiming the antenna, you might have to try moving it to a different physical location. It might be sitting in a dead spot for KARK.

I used to live on C Street and had horrible multipath problems. Are you East or West of Plaza West building (or whatever it's called now)?
post #12034 of 12505
Well, I've reaimed... tried just about every position on my current mount. It is definitely working better but still freezes every once in a while and shows very low signal strength compared to all my other channels (all others show full or near full strength). I guess if it gets worse, I will have to try moving it to a different location on the roof. Was really hoping to use the current post since it was already there from a former satellite mount.

I'm in a neighborhood southwest of markham and hughes. Not sure which building you are talking about, I'm new to the area.
post #12035 of 12505
He is talking about the high rise at Markham and University.

You might try raising or lowering the antenna on the mast about 6-8 inches. You might just be in a dead spot. Another thing that might help, is shortening the length of coax you are using by about 6 inches, or if a jumper from a splitter to the tv, the length of the coax from the splitter to the TV. ATSC is voodoo. Have to try all sorts of things when you are that close to the towers.

What used to show up as ghosts in the picture (multipath reflections off another object) can now cancel the digital signals and confuse the crap out of the tuner.
post #12036 of 12505
Thread Starter 
It could be multipath interference (bounced signals hitting the antenna at slightly different times) or interference from another source of radio transmission in the area, like from Drs' building, St Vincent, Plaza West, Summit House. All of those nearby buildings have radio transmitter antennas on the roofs.

The problem is similar to cell phone dead spots in a rural area or in a building. Moving the phone just a foot or two and it can go from NO SERVICE to 3 or 4 bars.

What you may need to do is physically move the antenna around, a.k.a. "walking the roof" until you find a hot spot for KARK, or a weak spot for whatever's interfering with it, be it multipath or RF interference. This usually involves two people and a way to communicate between the two. Walk the antenna around until the SNR stays above the usual 16dB level required to keep a good lock on the signal.

If the RF or multipath interference is coming from one of the nearby buildings to the North & East, holding a large piece of chicken wire behind the antenna might prove this.

Re an amp; you should not need one. In fact, a variable attenuator might even solve the problem.
post #12037 of 12505
Does ANYONE have a TIVO hooked to OTA? I am getting two listings for KMYA-DT on my Tivo. One, showing 20.2 with guide data that the Tivo will not tune in, and one showing 49.1 with "No DATA" for the guide that it WILL tune in.

I have written Zap2It and the FCC license holder contact, but wondered if there was anything else I need to do.

I got it working on SAGETV by manually remapping the 20.2 virtual to a manually created channel 49.1, and adding the guide data code for 20.2, but would like it on the TIvo.
post #12038 of 12505
It isn't Zap2It or the FCC you should write to I don't think. I think it is Tribune Media Services. They are like the master keepers of guide data. The person I contacted there a long time ago about stuff like this is lineups@tribune.com and her(?) name was Lynne.
post #12039 of 12505
I used the link at the bottom of Zap2it which sends the email to TMS.

Email received back:
Dear Zap2it user,

Thank you for the updated information in your email below. We have forwarded your email to our database team who will work to resolve this issue in a timely manner.

Thank you for being a user of Zap2it TV Listings -- we will continue to work hard to provide the most up to date listings for you.

If you should have any other questions, please be sure to reference our Help page at:

http://www.zap2it.com/services/site/...2155.htmlstory

Regards,

The Zap2it Customer Feedback Team
post #12040 of 12505
Where did everyone go? Decided to watch the race today on C-band. For some reason the picture is much better than OTA or DirecTv, even though its only 720p...
LL
post #12041 of 12505
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Oh, wow. KRBK has a viewer.
post #12042 of 12505
Well, History moved Ancient Aliens over to H2, HGTV moved their shows to DIY in favor of reality TV, and DirecTv is adding more sports channels and totally ignoring the basics...

So, after a great exchange with Xfinity, explaining the internet problems I had anytime I introduced a splitter in the line, they actually agreed to run a second drop to my house just for TV, and gave me the Digital Preferred for $39.95 for a year, which lowered my internet bill by $10. All around good deal. Got my sports on DirecTv, and basics in HD on Xfinity. In a year, I get to decide which to keep.

I love the way they moved all the HD channels into the 1000 range, and grouped each genre in groups of 100. I can actually FIND stuff now.

Now if I could figure out how they are managing to get their PQ as good as DirecTv and still cramming all those channels onto the cable at once...
post #12043 of 12505
Well I wish there was a way to get a guide for 49.1 from ota.
When they first started the channel I saw 20.2 and 49.1 now all my scans just show 49.1
post #12044 of 12505
Call the station and complain. They should have a phone number if you search the FCC database for their owner. FWIW, the guide data on zap2it, Tivo, and DirecTv is correct. Apparently they just cant figure out how to send it out on PSIP.
post #12045 of 12505
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

Apparently they just cant figure out how to send it out on PSIP.

Who says they're trying? LPTV stations are not required to provide guide data.

- Trip
post #12046 of 12505
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Who says they're trying? LPTV stations are not required to provide guide data.

- Trip

KMYA has a pretty stout signal. I know they used to be KKYK-CA, but are they listed as a LPTV? They have way more coverage than the only other LPTV station we had around here on channel 18.

As for following any rules, as you can see by this latest FCC request:
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws...&fac_num=86534

one of the prime people involved is none other than a Mr Morton, whom I believe was involved with the shady Equity Broadcasting Co, who still has unresolved complaints on file with the FCC.

Equity never followed any rules, and I dont suspect a station owned by, or affiliated with, anyone from Equity to do anything different.
post #12047 of 12505
Good point, I forgot they were a Class A.

But you make a good point about Larry Morton as well, and I concur.

- Trip
post #12048 of 12505
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

So, after a great exchange with Xfinity, explaining the internet problems I had anytime I introduced a splitter in the line, they actually agreed to run a second drop to my house just for TV, and gave me the Digital Preferred for $39.95 for a year, which lowered my internet bill by $10. All around good deal. Got my sports on DirecTv, and basics in HD on Xfinity. In a year, I get to decide which to keep.

Wow, good deal. They get it dropped yet? Sorry, forgot to check this for a while.

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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

I love the way they moved all the HD channels into the 1000 range, and grouped each genre in groups of 100. I can actually FIND stuff now.

At least YOU can. I can't find a damned thing on their lineup. I haven't done much in the thousands yet, though. Keep trying to figure out the asinine channel layout in the rest of the grid. (Still don't understand how you can cram WGN America between KARZ and AETN (436 to 440).) All I know is I spend like 5 minutes starting from the beginning just scanning to see if anything is on because I can't find the fricken channel I wanna watch. Drives me up the wall.
post #12049 of 12505
Anyone notice the new Hopper/Joey equipment from Dish is now available? And of course it is "free", but only if you are a new customer. I still understand how they can get away with treating loyal customers as second class citizens in preference to new blood.
post #12050 of 12505
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Originally Posted by steveken View Post

Wow, good deal. They get it dropped yet? Sorry, forgot to check this for a while.

At least YOU can. I can't find a damned thing on their lineup. I haven't done much in the thousands yet, though.

All the HD channels are duplicated above 1000. And they are grouped by genre up there, 1000-1099 are locals, 1100-1199 are news channels, etc. I just blocked out all the ones under 1000 except for a couple SD channels, and the local subchannels.

They dropped the second run. The installer asked me why they just didnt replace the 20 yr old cable I already had up to fix the problem. Told him because when the tech would come, all the signal levels on his handheld meter were above the threshold. He just laughed. He did a good job, removed the old cable on the house, ran both cables with hold down clips, put the ground blocks inside a waterproof box, ran new ground wires.

I am not impressed with the "Hopper/Joey" system. Its only got three tuners, all of which will be in use if you have three Joeys, so basically you end up with a one tuner DVRs in three rooms. They wont let you use it with a VIP, so its one system or the other. At least DirecTv's had 5 tuners, and works with any of their existing stuff.
post #12051 of 12505
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

All the HD channels are duplicated above 1000. And they are grouped by genre up there, 1000-1099 are locals, 1100-1199 are news channels, etc. I just blocked out all the ones under 1000 except for a couple SD channels, and the local subchannels.

Woah, wait, how did you do that? I would LOVE to do that, but the only way I found to do it would require me to hit two or three buttons to bring up my guide. I wanna just hit the guide and have only what I want shown to me. You know, like DirecTV does it. I loved being able to block crap I didn't want with DirecTV. I just really hate Comcast's menu system. It is like I stepped in a time machine and went 20 years ago. It is so frustrating. Anyway, if you can instruct me on the easiest way to block channels I would appreciate it.


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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

They dropped the second run. The installer asked me why they just didnt replace the 20 yr old cable I already had up to fix the problem. Told him because when the tech would come, all the signal levels on his handheld meter were above the threshold. He just laughed. He did a good job, removed the old cable on the house, ran both cables with hold down clips, put the ground blocks inside a waterproof box, ran new ground wires.

See, that's what happens when you get a good tech. He will actually go through and do his job right. Only problem is they are few and far between. At least you got both runs now. You should be golden to do whatever you want. You will probably love Comcast now. LOL
post #12052 of 12505
I loved them before. Actually though, with the combination of both DirecTv and Comcast, I finally have all the basic channels in HD. Of course, in two years, Ill have to decide which one of the two I keep, as I sure couldnt afford to pay full price for both.

As to hiding channels, I am using a Tivo Premier with lifetime service. I would not even consider using a Comcast DVR. Ive seen them at my boss' house. No way Jose'.
I understand Comcast is using Tivo Premiers in some markets now, so maybe they will become available here, and you can swap out for one.
post #12053 of 12505
Oh, yeah, forgot you had a TiVo. Sorry about that. Yeah, the Comcast ones are crap.

Got an email the other day from TiVo offering me a refurb'd Premier for $79 and monthly for $14.99 with a year commitment. The wife was really about ready to go for it. Then we missed the deadline on the offer. I looked on the site the next day and saw that it was really no deal for us in the first place. We would get monthly for $14.99 anyway as long as we kept the series 2 on the account. I am thinking I might still be able to talk her into getting it. I just wish they would stop the whole per box crap and charge you like $20 a month for up to like 3 or 4 boxes. The monthly service fee per box is what is keeping me from putting TiVo's all through the house.

Remind me again, if I turn in one of these Comcast DVR's for a TiVo Premier, do I have to pay for the CableCard for it per month? Or would that be considered the free one? And how hard is it to get it all going? Right now I have 2 Comcast HD DVR's and one HD receiver, so I think the receiver might count as the one free CableCard or something. I dunno. Thought you might.
post #12054 of 12505
I dont know if they give you a free cablecard or not. I dont really think they charge for the cablecard, they are actually charging for the HD service. It was package price + $8.50 for HD the last time I had it. Those little SD tuners were free. Havent gotten a bill yet with just my one Tivo, so dont know what they are going to charge yet.
post #12055 of 12505
So what is happening on KATV now OTA? It is loaded with infomercials for a few hours but ABC website programming guide is showing that the PNB Paribas (tennis indian wells tournament) is supposed to be showing. Is the OTA different than cable/satellite? I'm just trying to figure out how this works. PNB website also says that the semis and finals will be televised on "ABC".
post #12056 of 12505
You've entered the Preemption Zone. They will preempt just about anything they can in order to make a buck running infomercials, especially during weekends. They don't preempt the NBA, because that is one of the few things ABC won't stand for, but apparently, everything else is fair game. If you want to see sports on ABC, get a Back Yard Dish or move to another TV market.
post #12057 of 12505
Well, I think I have figured out ways to save money on my Comcast bill for when the rates go up in May when my promo period ends. I just ordered a SiliconDust HDHomeRun Prime CableCard tuner that has 3 tuners that can be accessed over any local network connection from Amazon with some gift card codes I had. Managed to get the thing for $13.90 grand total with free 2-day Prime shipping. Not too bad I don't think.

My Comcast bill had a rate change listing in it as well as a program guide list on it. Going by that, I should be able to recognize some savings by going with my own tuner. If I read the bill correctly, it should be like this for me:

With Digital Preferred, you get a box for free as part of the package, so that should cover the monthly rental for the RNG-110 I have in the bedroom.
I will have to pay the HD Technology Fee that is $8.50 (going up to $9.95 on 4/1).
I will be able to return the two HD DVR's that cost $15.95/month (going to $16.95/month on 4/1).
The CableCARD for the SiliconDust tuner will be free (says first card in device 0.00).
I will also get a "Customer-Owned Video Equipement Credit" of $2.50 for using the SiliconDust tuner.

So, that means I should be able to save $33.90 after 4/1 for the two DVR's, plus get the $2.50 for the customer video credit, making it $36.40 total savings. Well, maybe $34.95 if you count the $1.45 increase in the HD Technology Fee. Anyway, that, along with any new promo plan we can get put on, should make a dent in the ol' household budget.
post #12058 of 12505
Good luck on that. Let me know if you get anyone to do it. They denied me the "Customer-Owned Video" credit. Said it did not apply to cablecard devices. If you get it, let me know.

As for the Silicon Dust Prime, let me know how that works out with the cablecard. I was considering adding one to my HTPC, but didnt feel like messing with getting the cablecard paired, which seems to be a nightmare for some customers with Comcast.

Sucks they are raising the price for HD a month after I signed up for two years with them. Should have expected something like that.
post #12059 of 12505
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

Where did everyone go? Decided to watch the race today on C-band. For some reason the picture is much better than OTA or DirecTv, even though its only 720p...

Where at on C-band? I have a old C-band 10' BUD with GI 450 I bought new back in the day. Thanks, is it possible to hook a FTA receiver to that, only C-band lnb?
post #12060 of 12505
I live in the Dover area, have channel master amp on a 8 bow tie antenna at 35'. I can only receive channel 7.1-3, 16.1 at times, and 42.1 and 2. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Also does anyone receive local Fort Smith or Little rock channels both? Are they available on a FTA receiver? Thanks for the help.
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