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post #1321 of 12505
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Originally Posted by yromj View Post

No, I was not. According to D*'s site, I am w/in the LR DMA.

John


From an address of a friend on Lake Hamilton, it shows that the ABC Digital (HD) Distant Network Service is available, other networks show grade A (KTHV) and grade B signals
post #1322 of 12505
Thread Starter 
An address in a valley (with a hill between it and the transmitters) will be more likely to return eligible channels.
post #1323 of 12505
Ok got some info that might be usefull to all. I had decided on signing up for Dish as a new customer and was going to purchase the 942 and when i called in to do it today i got to talking to the guy and the Dish rep said that in March a new HD-DVR unit will be comming out that will support Mpeg4 as well as more HD channels that i would not be able to get with the 942(2nd part seemed a little fishy) He also said they will be getting local channels in select markets next year as well.

So i call my local Dish store and they comfirm that there is a new HD-DVR reciever comming out in March. I have never had anything but cable, but i was told that with DISH if i got their service now i would not be able to upgrade to the new reciever in March and that even if i could i would not get it for anywhere near the $250 price on the 942. I was told that the 942 is still not available to existing Dish customers. Can anyone verify this?

Anyone got any input on this information? So should I hold off till March? I will be getting our first HDTV next week, not going to make it for Christmas... Darn the bad luck.
post #1324 of 12505
Thread Starter 
hevnbnd,

Check your private messages.

Also see Satelliteguys.us for Dish HD forums.
post #1325 of 12505
Just another intermittent check to see if anyone knows of someone who specializes in OTA antenna installs; send me a pm if you know someone. Surely, someone has picked up on this market by now, since i imagine a ton of HDTVs were sold this christmas.

Again, i'm aware of the Broadway Satellite option, but I didn't get a very good impression of them when they did my Direct TV and one really gets the feeling that they have little experience with OTA antennas (other than maybe batwings that hook onto their DTV dishes).

My indoor antenna is doing the job pretty well, but the wife keeps complaining about the eyesore on top of my TV.

Azanon
post #1326 of 12505
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Originally Posted by hevnbnd View Post

Ok got some info that might be usefull to all. I had decided on signing up for Dish as a new customer and was going to purchase the 942 and when i called in to do it today i got to talking to the guy and the Dish rep said that in March a new HD-DVR unit will be comming out that will support Mpeg4 as well as more HD channels that i would not be able to get with the 942(2nd part seemed a little fishy) He also said they will be getting local channels in select markets next year as well.

So i call my local Dish store and they comfirm that there is a new HD-DVR reciever comming out in March. I have never had anything but cable, but i was told that with DISH if i got their service now i would not be able to upgrade to the new reciever in March and that even if i could i would not get it for anywhere near the $250 price on the 942. I was told that the 942 is still not available to existing Dish customers. Can anyone verify this?

Anyone got any input on this information? So should I hold off till March? I will be getting our first HDTV next week, not going to make it for Christmas... Darn the bad luck.

I can confirm that the 942 is not available to existing members for $250. You would need to purchase it for around $600 or $700. The rumor is that the new VOOM channels and ESPN 2 HD will be in MPEG-4, but a lot of folks are doubting this. Should be interesting to see if this is true or if they mis-spoke during the last Charlie Chat. The next Charlie Chat is supposed to be dedicated to HD and occurs on 1/9/2006.

Hopefully we will get some info so we know what direction we need to go in with receivers. I want a 942 also, but I am not buying it until I know it will not be immediately out of date.

E
post #1327 of 12505
An update:

New tv is working fine. Got to finally see an HD program from PBS/AETN this evening-- Window To The Sea . Actually was beginning to wonder if AETN would air any HD programs. Still looked great and shows the potential for HD.

Checked RF channel 32 this evening for activity and noticed a higher than normal signal reading. Since it was lower than the Little Rock channels I normally get, determined that it was probally from the east and after a rescan found WABG-DT Greenwood, MS (remaps to 6-1, 6-2). Caught the 10pm newscast and the start of Nightline which WABG airs live. The two channels 6-1 and 6-2 simulcast but unsure if any HD programming is passed at this time. About 10:45pm, the signal dropped out and is not strong enough to keep a lock. Peak reading was about 60 during the newscast.
post #1328 of 12505
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Originally Posted by ark steve View Post

Response to my inquiry regarding HD at KARK from Mr. Rogala:

From Rick Rogala, Gen Mgr KARK

The work on our full power digital transmitter will begin in the next few weeks. I just got word today that the company that supplies the digital RF equipment may be slightly delayed in delivery, which will push the launch of HD programming to January.

All the best,

Rick


Anybody heard if KARK is still ontrack to begin HD this month? Would really be nice to have it up and running before the Olympics start.
post #1329 of 12505
Dennis,

I won't be holding my breath. Hopefully, they'll get online before Feburary sweeps, although most of the NBC Olympic coverage will likely be figure skating . Also NBC has their final year of NASCAR (second half of season) starting in July.

H.
post #1330 of 12505
FYI..
In case someone does what I did I was originally hooking my antenna up through my Directv receiver and then into my TV. I was able to receive 11-1 & 16-1 fine but no ABC (7-1 & 7-2). After plugging the antenna directly into my tv all the channels are working fine now.
post #1331 of 12505
Fox News Sunday via KLRT is in HDTV this morning. Main studio cam showing HD, and segments with remote interviews have colorful pillarboxes with moving background.
post #1332 of 12505
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Originally Posted by errett View Post

I have the 811 from Dish, but have yet to try the ATSC tuner in it. I may try it this weekend just for the heck of it. I have a big 4 bay UHF antenna in my attic (Maumelle) and can get a great signal from KATV, but I had to screw the antenna down because any movement will make the signal completely go away. My 811 is connected out the DVI converting to HDMI to connect to the TV.

I will let you know how the tuner works.

E

Finally got around to testing the tuner in my 811 from Dish and have one word for it, awful. I immediately disconnected it and went back to the tuner built into my Samsung set.
post #1333 of 12505
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Originally Posted by haley-SEA View Post

Fox News Sunday via KLRT is in HDTV this morning. Main studio cam showing HD, and segments with remote interviews have colorful pillarboxes with moving background.

FOX News Sunday has been in HD for quite sometime.
post #1334 of 12505
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Originally Posted by errett View Post

FOX News Sunday has been in HD for quite sometime.

Hey Errett,
I've been a FNS fan for years but don't think they've sprung for the big bucks studio cameras yet. It is coming on an HD stream but is really widescreen image that's upconverted. It's much better than the analog picture but is still too fuzzy to be true HD originated. Take a close look and let me know if I'm right or wrong.

Fox used to feed a lot of stuff in that widescreen format but all the the primetime stuff is now using new cameras. (at least the programs I'm watching)

Do your studio cams have widescreen? If so, have you considered feeding your news upconverted wide--your local shows have the best picture of any of the news feeds so a widescreen feed would look real close to HD. The stations in the Dallas market have spent $$$ on their convertors and your digital feed looks as good as theirs.
post #1335 of 12505
I live off Chenal Parkway on a decent size hill. I receive the digital signals from channel 4, 11, and 16, but cannot get 7-22.1?KATV. antennaweb says the tower is 22 miles away. I bought a DB4 antenna from antennas direct.

It is multidirectional and has no problem picking up those 3. Any suggestions on how to get KATV on the digital signal? I have dish network -- any truth to the fact that they are getting all the local channels in HD in March of this year? Thanks for any suggestions.
post #1336 of 12505
Dont misconstrue multidirectional as bi-directional. If you are not aiming your db4 at Redfield, you are probably not going to get 22.1 or 39.1. If you are on Chenal I assume your antenna is pointed west or northwest? You would have the reflector back toward Redfield, and you would be getting more than -20db rejectioon of the signal you want. Try turning it around, hopefully the signals from Chenal will be strong enough to pick up pointed toward Redfield. Can you pick up analog channel 38 well? It in the same location.

Dave
post #1337 of 12505
Thread Starter 
Aim the antenna in the direction shown on antennaweb.org for your complete address. If you can get 39-1 (aka 38-1, aka KASN-DT/UPN), the problem is KATV's not yours. According to the FCC, they're still only broadcasting at a low power of ~10kw.
post #1338 of 12505
wxguy,
I can't speak for errett, at least not to the specifications of the studio cams, but as I am an editor and also do playout, and I can say that there would be a whole lot more work than just changing a setting on the camera in order to do Fox 16 News in widescreen. All the graphics would have to be redone, and a major upgrade, if not replacement for the editing systems. I'm not sure if ENG cameras have a widescreen mode or not, but they are DVCPro, so they are not HD. Now, I really wish that the guys putting this stuff together 2+ years ago had considered all this, and we could have gone HD from the start, but unfortunately, I don't see it happening now.

Anyway, having said all that, E is the engineer, and he may know some stuff I don't.
post #1339 of 12505
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

Dont misconstrue multidirectional as bi-directional. If you are not aiming your db4 at Redfield, you are probably not going to get 22.1 or 39.1. If you are on Chenal I assume your antenna is pointed west or northwest? You would have the reflector back toward Redfield, and you would be getting more than -20db rejectioon of the signal you want. Try turning it around, hopefully the signals from Chenal will be strong enough to pick up pointed toward Redfield. Can you pick up analog channel 38 well? It in the same location.

Dave

Dave- thanks for the reply. I did try pointing the antenna towards redfield, but to no avail for 22.1. I don't get 39.1/38 either. when I pointed it towards redfield, i lost my signal to 4, 11, and 16. maybe the db4 is not strong enough? i do have some trees to the south and and east of my house, but they are at roof top level and are about 50 feet from the roof line.

is there any truth to the matter that dish network is working on launching the local channels in digital this march 06? thanks.
post #1340 of 12505
Thread Starter 
You may need a better antenna.
Does your TV have a built in tuner or are you using a set top box?
post #1341 of 12505
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Originally Posted by wxguy View Post

Hey Errett,
I've been a FNS fan for years but don't think they've sprung for the big bucks studio cameras yet. It is coming on an HD stream but is really widescreen image that's upconverted. It's much better than the analog picture but is still too fuzzy to be true HD originated. Take a close look and let me know if I'm right or wrong.

Fox used to feed a lot of stuff in that widescreen format but all the the primetime stuff is now using new cameras. (at least the programs I'm watching)

Do your studio cams have widescreen? If so, have you considered feeding your news upconverted wide--your local shows have the best picture of any of the news feeds so a widescreen feed would look real close to HD. The stations in the Dallas market have spent $$$ on their convertors and your digital feed looks as good as theirs.

You may be right about FNS. I usually just check in and make sure I see it in widescreen and then flip away. I will linger next week and check it out. As for our studio cameras, they are capable of widescreen. The next step is one all of the stations are having to consider due to the immense cost commitment involved.

Thanks for the compliment about the news, we are very proud and very critical of the signals we put out.

E
post #1342 of 12505
jimbart3, all the info I have seen points to Dish rolling out HD locals in 5 markets per month through '06, meaning the top 50 markets will be up by the end of the year. We are at #57, so I don't see it happening before early '07. Where did you hear the March rumor? If you currently have Dish, watch tonights Charlie Chat, it is supposed to focus on Dish's new HD plans, so there could be some updated info.

Oh yeah, I will also officially ask this weeks "Any news on Ch. 4?" question.
post #1343 of 12505
Rocky F-
the rumor re: Dish network and local HD channels for LR was something a saleman at radio shack told me this weekend. he said his dish network rep was excited to have "time off" b/c they were ahead of schedule for getting the local channels in digital, and this would all happen by March '06. of course, this is hearsay so take it with a grain of salt.
post #1344 of 12505
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Originally Posted by arxaw View Post

You may need a better antenna.
Does your TV have a built in tuner or are you using a set top box?


I have a Sony WEGA with the built-in tuner. i am willing to hold off since i just purchased this antenna and if the dish network rumor is true about getting the locals in HD by March, no sense in dropping more money on this problem of KATV-HD. thanks.
post #1345 of 12505
jimbart3,

I have the Sony KDFE-42A10 with the internal tuner and the HR10-250 DirecTiVo. The tuner on the Sony is much better than the D* receiver for local ATSC stations. That said, I have been able to get all of the digitals (except KETS and KARK) using a ChannelMaster 4221 and a ChannelMaster 7777 pre-amp on both the Sony and D* tuners.

I am located in central LR and shinall is at 285 degrees and Redfield is at 160. I have the 4221 pointed at about 225 degrees (eyeballed), essentially splitting the difference between the two tower locations. I have strong signals from all of the stations and have only noticed a few dropouts from KATV during extremely high winds.
post #1346 of 12505
Thanks jparry -- i will look into buying the channelmaster 4221 and 7777 pre-amp. the pre-amp is probably my best bet b/c i am not dealing with a long coax wire (only 50 ft) and there are no splitters. i currently have my db4 antenna pointing to about 300 degrees, which is shinall. KATV-7 is my only station out of 4, 11, and 16 that i cannot get in digital.
post #1347 of 12505
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Originally Posted by jparry View Post

jimbart3,

I have the Sony KDFE-42A10 with the internal tuner and the HR10-250 DirecTiVo. The tuner on the Sony is much better than the D* receiver for local ATSC stations. That said, I have been able to get all of the digitals (except KETS and KARK) using a ChannelMaster 4221 and a ChannelMaster 7777 pre-amp on both the Sony and D* tuners.

I am located in central LR and shinall is at 285 degrees and Redfield is at 160. I have the 4221 pointed at about 225 degrees (eyeballed), essentially splitting the difference between the two tower locations. I have strong signals from all of the stations and have only noticed a few dropouts from KATV during extremely high winds.

jparry-
any recommendations on where to buy the channel master 7777? does the pre-amp work as a signal boost?
post #1348 of 12505
Well guys, it's that time of year again. Starting Wednesday, Ch. 7 will begin pre-empting ABC programming with JP's SEC basketball games. I complained about this last year, and I will do so again. Like I said then, I can understand for Razorback games, but not for other games. Anyway, I went back and looked at the posts from last year, and saw one which stated the 7's GM had come on and made a statement about possibly using their multicasting ability this year to allow us digital viewers to see "Lost" at the right time. I have e-mailed them to find out if that was going to happen, but I thought if anyone else cares, you might want to do the same.
post #1349 of 12505
Thread Starter 
RockyF,
Isn't KATV-DT still low power? If so, a lot of people now qualify for WABC-DT on DirecTV, due to recent law changes.

Send me a Private Msg for the URL to check your home address to see if it qualifies.
post #1350 of 12505
i think KATV is still low power, but i have dish network.
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