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I second that comment... I invite people over to my house for the HD super bowl and then have to explain that CBS can't get their act together and purchase all HD cameras... This was a time for CBS to shine and show how HDTV can look, instead they botch it up. I was furious...

Reminds me of what Dave Letterman says about CBS...

"CBS....we're not even trying...."

Seems so true when it comes to live HD on CBS..

-t

Sound was the most annoying part for me... seemed like we only had voices at normal volume for 1/2 the game. I don't think I had a signal strength problem, but did anyone else have pixelations near the end of the game? The first 3 quarters were good.

Oh and an INHD movie question - are those censored? I didn't check the last time I watched.... just curious.

Chris

sound was definitely the low point. some pixelation and a total drop on a key Troy Brown reception in the 4th were a bummer too. but in general it was a great experience... 8 out of 10 (IMO). i probably would have rated it lower if the pats lost... ;-)

I thoroughly enjoyed the game and broadcast. I thought CBS did a good job, people on these boards need to be realistic. 5.1 sound was excellent, I only had a few breif dropouts, and they were during commercials and the halftime show. The bass effect when graphics disappeared off the screen got a bit tiresome, but I can live with it. The picture looked incredible. Some shots are too quick moving to be captured with the current SD cameras and the cameramen are not accustomed to how steady the camera must be held. The 360 eye view was never meant to be in HD. If I had felt the need to "explain" the poor quality to any of my guests, I would have booted them out to watch at their own home. For me, it is hard to find anything negative in last night!

So is there any chance that Comcast will reach an agreement with WB and UPN by this fall, so we can see Enterprise and Smallville in HD?

don't get me wrong - we were all blown away by the picture quality - at 110" no less! i just pointed out the few low points. there was no complaining at my home whatsoever. the spl difference between the game, commercials and the intro graphic (when they came back from commercials) was what i was talking about. i had to keep my finger on the volume to keep from blowing away people in the cheap seats (up front).

My 5100 box does have a firewire port on it. Obvioulsy, the firmware makes it inactive.

I had mine installed before HD was even advertised as avaialble (the soft launch)

Tim

gabatta: welcome to the forum. there is no reason to hold CBS at a lower standard, on the contrary. they remind us constantly about how great they are so they should have done a better job.

this is 2004, certainly not the first HD broadcast of the superbowl so it's 'realistic' to expect improvements. SD cameras were used for non-play action shots like sideline reporting and during the performances. if it had been just the 360 eye view in SD i would not have had as much of an issue but the SD shots were used way too much. and it's not unreasonable to expect better audio.

this is the HDTV with Comcast forum, we're not commenting on the game itself. but as far as the HD aspect, if you don't have the same standards as others then that's fine but the "people on these boards" are entitled to their opinion which is part of why we are here.

Tim, DVI output also on 5100 ?

All you CBS bashers: What would you have been watching if Comcast didn't get CBS
soon enough??? Did you all have OTA HDTV?

larry

Good to hear that... that was exactly where I had some pixelation.

I'm not bashing comcast at all... I was VERY happy with the broadcast - just saying something could be better. And those problems weren't from comcast I believe. I did have the OTA setup ready to go if necessary, but it wasn't so I had it running on a TV upstairs so people wouldn't miss anything when getting food/drinks.

Any more word on the firewire firmware? Really would like to be able to record some of this stuff.

Chris

what does that have to do with anything? bashers?! wow, for someone with 1700 posts, your comments are surprising. i would have had the same complaints with OTA larry. get rid of SD cameras and improve the audio! moving on...

Do you think they used some SD cameras because they wanted to or created
audio problems? Think about what it takes to do mobile HD broadcasts
and have it transmitted perfectly. Sorry if you took it personally avic, but
at this point in time you should be grateful for the HD programming
you do receive and can enjoy. It's not like it's been regressing from
something better.

larry

larry, i don't subscribe to your "take it how you can get it and shut up" attitude. others and i will continue to express the things we'd like to see improve; that's how they do. so let's agree to disagree and your apology for the name-calling accepted.

that said, to their credit, CBS has made improvements. audio problems will happen, i just would have liked them to have taken less shots with the SD cameras. check out this article, goes into some depth on the CBS Superbowl HD broadcast.

CBS Primed for Super Bowl in HD

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There've been no announcements as of yet. The agreement with Viacom should cover the UPN stations, but I don't think the amount of HD on UPN justifies carriage yet, in Comcast's mind.

Yes, I guess since one of the two HD shows on UPN was cancelled (Jake 2.0), they figure we can whip out the rabbit ears to watch Enterprise for now. Hopefully there will be more programs in HD on UPN next season and Comcast will come around!!
Same story on WB? Not enough content?

Chicken and the egg. If Comcast picked up UPN's digital feed it would probably encourage them to produce more HD programming.

Ok, i'm a newbie here. Sorry if I sound uninformed, but are you saying that I can put an antenna on my DLP and pick up channel 56 in Boston in HD??

Thanks,
Steve

Unfortunately those of us that live in the Avalon at Prudential cannot get Comcast HD programming as there appears to be some dispute between the building owner and Comcast. Does anyone know what I can/should do to get HD programming outside of D*? Being that I just moved into the Prudential Center area, am I right in thinking I can pick up OTA HD broadcasts if I buy an HD Rec & OTA HD antenna?

My apologies if my quesions are below the intelligence level of the board. As you most likely can tell, I'm very new at this stuff and I'm swimming in it a bit as I think I've actually read too much (if that's possible!).

Kind regards,
Dan

At least UPN and WB have HD programming, Fox(825) has none. While ED is better, it's certainly not HD. Now dead last in adopting it, they finally agreed on 720p for their fall lineup.

Which pretty much begs the question as to why Comcast is carrying Fox HD, but not UPN or WB.

Although, I'm sure Fox gets higher ratings overall than the other two, and that since they're just ED, the bandwidth requirements are probably a lot less than a real HD station.

I asked about the WB a couple of weeks ago and I think therob006 was going to look into it. I'm not sure if they are out of bandwidth or not, so I don't know how soon they could do it. There was another thread and it APPEARS that all the WB stations are independently owned... ? So maybe that's a problem for comcast to negogiate (sp).

In any case, this is the channel that's MOST important for me at this point. It's the one the wife watches and if we can get that in HD, can you say bedroom TV upgrade????

Chris

EDIT: I actually just emailed the Boston WB station to see if they had any info/talks with comcast..... I'll let you know if I hear anything.

Football...

You can do just that. If you're up at high above the other buildings, I doubt you'll have any trouble picking up the HD broadcasts. If you're a bit lower down, reception might be iffy, but you may want to try anyway. I'd pick up one of the Zenith or LG tuners, since they're reported to have to best tuners, the Silver Sensor antenna, and give it a try.

For example:

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.as...0&loc=111&sp=1 is one place you can get this antenna

http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.p...uct_Id=3954284 is a good tuner.

So is it 100% certain that Fox will finally be at HD by the fall?

That would be huge, especially since I heard that Fox will have the Superbowl next year and I think the MLB Playoffs...

An extremely compelling reason to carry Fox, and one which I obviously overlooked (since I don't normally watch football).

Thanks. The world now makes a tiny bit more sense.

Fox will be HD eventually, sometime in the next year or so.

Anyone have a 6200 w/Firewire enabled yet? I'm chomping at the bit here.

Boy, the prospect of getting one of those would even convince me to buy an HD VCR.

VCR. How quaint.

How long d'ya s'pose it's gonna be before HD PVRs are a viable reality?

As soon as I hear of a 620x w/1394 working it is bye bye D*.

Dave

What is D* ?