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post #211 of 5011
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Time Warner Cable adds HDnet and HDnet Movies!

Here's a link to the press release: http://www.hd.net/2003-prarchive/2003-12-16-01.html

No info yet on local channel assignment and when they will begin carriage.

TWC is not available at my current address, so TWC Subs, let me know if you see new channels in the HD tier.
post #212 of 5011
What box does TWC use in Albany? Does it use DVI?
post #213 of 5011
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Originally posted by justman
What box does TWC use in Albany? Does it use DVI?

It is my understanding that Time Warner can privide either DVI or Y,Pr,Pb HD boxes.
post #214 of 5011
I sent the following email to WNYT's director of engineering. Then it occurred to me that I should have checked here first. Is anyone receiving the program information for WNYT's digital channels? Here's the email I sent describing what I see:

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I was wondering if there is a problem with the PSIP information for the digital WNYT channel. My receiver is able to display the program information for WRGB-DT (1,2, 3), WTEN-DT, WMHT-DT, WCDC-DT, WEWB-DT, as well as analog WTEN, WXXA, WMHT, WCDC, WEWB and even analog WNYT. The receiver does not display any program information for WNYT-DT, 13-1 or 13-2 (just color bar being displayed). I don't think it's a receiver problem since I get program information for the other digital and analog channels.
post #215 of 5011
Do you guys think that we will see CBS on TWC by the time the super bowl is broadcast?
post #216 of 5011
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Originally posted by jeffbrad
I sent the following email to WNYT's director of engineering. Then it occurred to me that I should have checked here first. Is anyone receiving the program information for WNYT's digital channels? Here's the email I sent describing what I see:

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I was wondering if there is a problem with the PSIP information for the digital WNYT channel. My receiver is able to display the program information for WRGB-DT (1,2, 3), WTEN-DT, WMHT-DT, WCDC-DT, WEWB-DT, as well as analog WTEN, WXXA, WMHT, WCDC, WEWB and even analog WNYT. The receiver does not display any program information for WNYT-DT, 13-1 or 13-2 (just color bar being displayed). I don't think it's a receiver problem since I get program information for the other digital and analog channels.

I also do not receive any program info for WNYT-DT 13-1. I have a Zenith SAT-520 receiver
post #217 of 5011
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I used both a Zenith Sat520 and a Panasonic TU-HDS20. Neither of them receives any program information for the WNYT-DT stations.

Remember! These DirecTV receivers are deriving their program info from the DirecTV Program Guide Data, not the station's PSIP data. The problem is that WNYT-DT for some reason has not informed the media services that compile TV listings of their new stations.

It's kind of funny that WEWB-DT has a program listing and is not broadcasting yet (OTA or Cable). WEWB is owned by Tribune. Tribune Media Services is one of those listing services.
post #218 of 5011
The media box tuner with my Pioneer PDP5040HD plasma receives the program information from WNYT-DT just fine. It's the only station I get ... but the data is there.
post #219 of 5011
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Originally posted by Ultrix
Do you guys think that we will see CBS on TWC by the time the super bowl is broadcast?

Don't hold your breath.

But you never know, we could get Lucky....but I doubt it.
post #220 of 5011
Hi all,

Talked to TW last month and they told me that they these were being tested by employees. Does anyone know when we might see them??? They told me sometime in December.



Release Date: December 03, 2003

Scientific-Atlanta Innovation Delivers Dual Tuner DVR/HD Set-Top to Time Warner Cable

�Time Warner Cable-Green Bay Division to deploy Explorer 8000HD�

Anaheim, CA, The Western Show � Scientific-Atlanta announced today the availability of its integrated dual tuner high-definition digital video recorder set-top solution. The new Explorer� 8000HD� High Definition Digital Video Recorder (DVR) will deliver two highly compelling video services � the control and convenience of a Digital Video Recorder and stunning High Definition Television (HDTV) video with digital surround sound. The industry leader in the deployment of DVRs and high-definition television service, Time Warner Cable is now initiating the deployment of HD/DVR set tops in its Green Bay Division, which serves over 150,000 customers in northeast Wisconsin .

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post #221 of 5011
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I believe I saw an Explorer 8000HD in Towne TV in Rotterdam. I could be wrong though.
post #222 of 5011
Does anyone know if TWC has changed the HD box they offer to customers yet. They gave me a SA 3100HD and it is a monster POS. While it does "work", it lacks features of newer boxes (it will only output 1080i, not 720P). Also, this box will not output digital audio from analog stations, or let me change the aspect ratio of non-hd stations on the component output, meaning I must constantly change audio modes on my receiver and zoom modes on my display when changing from HD to digital to local stations. If there are newer boxes, is there anyway I could get an upgrade, as all this switching is extremly annoying?
post #223 of 5011
They have the 3250HD, check their web site TWALBANY.COM for the user manual. It's a bit better but you won't get digital audio from analog stations (they're analog, not digital). It will allow changing the aspect of non-hd stations on the component output via switching from 1080i in the setup menu (I setup a macro to do that).

All you have to do is call them to make sure they have one in stock and then stop by, return your 3100HD and they'll give you a new one. Note, the 8000HD (according to this very same thread) is currently in beta locally. It's the HD version of their DVR.
post #224 of 5011
I will be moving to Albany (Clifton Park). I am trying to decide between Time Warner Cable or Direct TV w/ OTA. Any input on the best path to take for HD Locals?

My concern is that the OTA is so new in Albany that they may still be working the bugs out. However, TWC current has only ABC HD.

My preference is direct tv with OTA, but it appears direct tv does not have the Albany locals in SD available, so I would be completely depedent on OTA for local channels.
post #225 of 5011
I subscribe to DirecTV in this area. About 2 weeks ago I received a full color small poster sized flyer that said the local channels were coming soon. All information on their web site indicates the same. I believe they have launched a new sat which has given them an ability to add more things.

I would think that Clifton Park would receive very good OTA reception, a situation I myself may not be as fortunate with here on the eastern edge of Rensselaer county (but I plan to try). Maybe someone here can let you know.
post #226 of 5011
Living in Halfmoon which is right next to Clifton Park my OTA HD reception was good for the stations that are broadcasting (with an 80" VHF/UHF antenna in the attic). Heck, even with rabbit ears I was able to get the two broadcasting locals. Time warner also looked good in HD but they still only have ABC AFAIK. One note, for me my Time Warner analog stations look like junk. I get a much better picture analog from my antenna than from TWC. Same in house wiring so I'm guessing it is something outside the house. With OTA HD I did have a lot of problems with audio dropouts but I think that was the Samsung SIRT351 and not a signal strength issue.
post #227 of 5011
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If you are already a DirecTV sub, personally I would take advantage of their mover program and stick with them.

In Clifton Park you should have absolutely no trouble at all with the local OTA's using a rooftop antenna and gain amp.

I agree the SD on Time Warner is just too compressed and the local analogs look better OTA then the local analogs converted to Time Warner Digital.

Furthermore, there is still no agreements with the NBC, CBS and WB affiliates for carriage in HD on TWC..

FOX23, however, MIGHT be working on delivering HD (When it's available from the network) to Time Warner before they can get up and running OTA. They COULD be working toward delivering the Daytona500 in HD in Mid-Feb. Their OTA stuff wouldn't be ready till March/April at the earliest. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THIS WILL HAPPEN.

The locals (in SD) on DirecTV will be available very soon (1 to 2 Months). They already are on DISH.

Locals aside, the only HD advantage TWC has is INHD and INHD2... While DirecTV has NFL Sunday Ticket and ESPN-HD. They both now have Discovery HD Theater, HDnet and HDnet Movies, HBO-HD and SHO-HD. Both TWC and DirecTV claim they will be "Doubling and Tripling" their HD offerings in the very near future.

Be sure to compare the monthly cost of these different choices. I find TWC's Digital Tier (A requirement for HD) way too expensive.

During these quick changing transitional times, unless you've got the money and desire to buy all the different services, I think it prudent to choose the solution that most suits your household's actual viewing habits and budget. It is VERY costly to secure everything that is available in HD into one household. Good luck - Choose Wisely.
post #228 of 5011
Master FX...I didn't see HDnet on my TWC HD box this morning??? What channel are you finding it on?
post #229 of 5011
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Originally posted by jpeter1093
Master FX...I didn't see HDnet on my TWC HD box this morning??? What channel are you finding it on?

I'm sorry, I was mistaken, HDnet and HDnet movies are going to be on TWC... see my previous post linking to the Press Release. They are not up yet locally. Thanks for pointing that out jpeter1093, sorry if this casued you to surf your entire menu.
post #230 of 5011
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FOX23, however, MIGHT be working on delivering HD (When it's available from the network) to Time Warner before they can get up and running OTA. They COULD be working toward delivering the Daytona500 in HD in Mid-Feb

The Daytona 500 is on NBC - WNYT this year.
post #231 of 5011
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Originally posted by hooterville guy
I subscribe to DirecTV in this area. About 2 weeks ago I received a full color small poster sized flyer that said the local channels were coming soon. All information on their web site indicates the same. I believe they have launched a new sat which has given them an ability to add more things.

I would think that Clifton Park would receive very good OTA reception, a situation I myself may not be as fortunate with here on the eastern edge of Rensselaer county (but I plan to try). Maybe someone here can let you know.

DirecTV has a satellite launch scheduled for the first quarter of 2004.

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/sealaunch-03c.html

The satelite had been scheduled for launch in French Guyana by now, but construction delays caused it to miss it's window. The reassignment to Sea Launch was the soonest flight that DirecTV could find. The Albany stations are schedule to be on that satellite.

Generally speaking, the bit rate of SD local into local is so low that the video has obvious artifacts. You will have no difficulty with the Albany DTV OTA stations from Clifton Park. The video quality of analog transmitters often beat cable when received with a good rooftop anrtenna.
post #232 of 5011
I called Time Warner Albany today to inquire about the 3250HD and the DVR-8000HD availability. The 3250HD is available now but I was told the DVR-8000HD won't be available until this Spring.

I have been considering the purchase of the new Pioneer TiVo with the built in DVD burner but have decided to wait until I can find out what will or will not be able to be copied to DVD with the new Broadcasters flag stuff.

Would it be worth my while to get the DVR-8000 without HD capability for $5.00 extra per month or should I wait for the 8000HD? In either case my HDTV does not have a DVI input, component is the best I can do for now

Thanks for any suggestions,
Wordz

XEROX never did anything original
post #233 of 5011
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Originally posted by hooterville guy
The Daytona 500 is on NBC - WNYT this year.

Sorry again. I do believe that FOX23 is working on getting HD or at least 480P Widescreen to TWC before they will be broadcasting it OTA.

NBC (Nationally) has made no relevant announcements concerning sports in HD.
post #234 of 5011
Any update as to when they will be up broadcasting in digital?
post #235 of 5011
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Any update as to when they will be up broadcasting in digital?

I spy in my little eye a new(not really new) OTA station broadcasting digital in the capitol region. Anyone care to comment?
post #236 of 5011
Tried a new scan and didn't find anything I hadn't heard of before, but did for the first time pick up CBS and UPN from my little indoor antenna. CBS comes in on 80.1 and UPN on 80.2. What in the world are these numbers? Can't make much sense of them at all!
post #237 of 5011
sorry RWSimon,

I did a scan when I got home from work and was glad to find WMHT broadcasting in HDTV!

I don't know the name of the show they are broadcasting on 17-3, but this is the prettiest high definition broadcast I've seen yet! I'm actually recording the broadcast and I'll post some pics later..

Update: WMHT is broadcasting what appears to be 1080i HiDef on channel 17-3, and also broadcasting standard 480i on channel 17-4.

At this moment, there are 2 different shows being broadcast on the 2 channels.. MyHD card shows the signal strength at 93-100%.
post #238 of 5011
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Good catch BreakStuff.

I am getting 17-3 and 17-4 also, at about half-way through the "Good" range on my signal meter. The audio is out of sync on 17-4, but appears to be a simulcast of analog 17.
post #239 of 5011
PBS HDTV is really a spectacle with alot of eye candy, at times I was afraid to look away in fear I might miss some spectacular HDTV shot! I don't know the names of the 2 different shows I watched, but I took some screenshots here
post #240 of 5011
Ok.. I have a question and maybe someones answer can help out what Simon was referring too a few post's back..

When I view WRGB digital television, I see the broadcast on channel numbers 6-1, 6-2, 6-3.. I also know that channel 39-1 is part of the equation that I do not understand.. 39-1(39) is UHF(ultra high), 6-1,6-2,6-3 are VHF (very high) signals..

What is the purpose of channel 39?

Is the actual broadcast a VHF or UHF signal?

*Note: I only see 6-3 on my pc HDTV card and not on my STB, so don't think somethings wrong if you don't currently see anything on 6-3..
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