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For the past week I have noticed alot of pixelation on channel 10-ABC. I would like to know if it's my problem or is everyone experiencing this.

I've been watching the race for the past few hours and have not seen any problems with the OTA broadcast.

I'm getting 10-1, 10-2, 19,1 and 19-2 all rock solid but I can't seem to get any other digital channels at all. I spent most of the day Saturday probing around for a signal with a winegard 9032 antenna with a 7777 amplifier and raised my HD7084 winegard antenna up as high as 30 feet above the roof top with no results at all. I may need professional help but I'm going to keep trying for now..

I live in the city and have never had luck with those VHF/UHF style antennas, my best reception comes from using a bay type UHF antenna, results may vary but something to consider.

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I'm in the city of Schenectady. Nothing has changed with my setup, but for about a week I've been losing the signal on channel 10 quite often. All the other channels are ok.

what changed at channel 12??? t12 and 7 used to be the best 2 channels there (hardly ever dropped out) and now i haven't seen 12 all weekend (last time i saw 12 was 2 weeks ago), i used to get 80-86 like all the other channels on 12 - everything else is still a good signal????
(i am about 1.5 miles up mill valley road in middleburgh)

This weekend I tried a CM4228 channelmaster antenna with a 7777 preamp. It picks up scattered analog signals and bounce off of a hill much better than all of the yagi antennas that I have tried. I tried the 4228 antenna at ground levels and up on the roof and I still can't seem to find any more digital stations. I know the signals must be there do to the fact that I get 10-1 and 10-2 "Rock Solid"! Anyone have any more ideas? Dave

Are you sure you're getting 10 digital (RF channel 26, about 33 miles from you) and not 19 digital (RF 36, 10 mi.)? They should have the same programming, and if they don't change the PSIP info it would appear as virtual channel 10.

Can someone who receives 19 digital verify whether it appears as 19 or 10?

I'm sure that it's from albany. 10-1 has a weaker signal than 19-1 and when I rotate my antenna a few degrees in either direction I loose the signal all together. Not so with 19-1. I get 19-1 at almost any antenna position but it comes in the strongest when I rotate the antenna towards N. Adams MA. I think I need one of those spectrum analizers or something like that to see if the signals are there at all, and to see if the're clean.. Dave

HDefDave have you contacted Valley Electronics in Stephentown? They have a lot of different antennas on their building. I would suspect that they have the the equipment you are talking about and I think they are only about 10 miles from you. Are you on the east or west side of Rt 22?

No I didn't try them yet but I'm thinking of giving them a call to see if they do it, or if they can refer me to someone else that does. Thanks

Looks like WRGB's intermittent pixelation and freezing problem is back, though not as severe yet as in the past. My LG DVR can go several minutes without showing it, but a MyHD card shows it every few seconds. As usual, OTA only; cable is clean.

Thanks, fixed.
My TV at home did not show any video problems, but there would be a slight stuter to the audio every few minutes.

Does anyone know another way other than a spectrum analyzer to see if the other digital station signals in my area are there or not? I don't know if I'm dealing with a no signal or multipath signal problem. I would like to get an antenna system in place before the winter sets in.

The best way I know is to look for analog broadcasts coming from the same place and on similar frequencies. For example, WCWN is on 43 digital and 45 analog, from essentially the same location. If 45 is very snowy or ghosting, then you're likely to have trouble with 43. It's also easier to adjust an antenna for best reception on an analog station.

You need the highest gain antenna possible.

At your location you can assume that the signal is extremely weak due to the hills in Taborton. There are multiple ridges that will bend the signal, so there will be some multipath caused by dispersion, or reflections off multiple edges of the hilltops that are close together. The dispersion will be different in each and every situation, so others experiences may or may not be helpful to you.

In your case I'd try two 4228s stacked side by side and tilted up to just above the top of the ridge. Why slightly above? As you aim the antenna above the horizon the beamwidth on the antenna at the horizon gets narrower, hence the dispersion due to the multiple knife edges would go down.

I rotated my antenna to different positions and ran scans. I got a bunch of channels when I aimed my antenna towards the mountains to the Southeast of me. It looks like I'm getting bounce off of Berlin mountain "Aprox. 2500 Ft. high". I'm getting 6-1, 10-1, 10-2, 17-1, 17-2, 17-3, 19-1, 19-2, 39-5, 55-1, 55-2, 55-3 and 55-4. I'm still not getting 13, 23 and 45. 13 and 23 might be because of low transmitter power I think, but I'm not sure why I'm not getting 45. Does anyone know if WNYT 13 and WEWB 45 plan to turn up the power? By the way I changed the antenna position by a few degrees and the break-up's stopped. I wonder if I can get 45 with an antenna tilt? Thanks much to everyone in this thread. The help is appreciated.. Dave

Congratulations on the success Dave! I cannot get 45 in a usable fashion either. I don't understand it as I understand they are on the same tower as the other digital transmitters. Sounds like the channels you're getting are all UHF I believe. As far as 13 and 23 go, they are VHF channels (13 broadcasts on 12 and 23 broadcasts on 7 I believe) and they don't bounce well. That has been my experience anyway. I am using one antenna pointed (UHF) at the bounce and one antenna (VHF) pointed at the tower. I went to my sister's house in Grafton for Thanksgiving and drove up Rt. 22 through Berlin. I was shocked at how much of a block you guys have with the mountain to the west. I would wonder what if anything could be done about that obstacle. Once again, good job Dave.

I am situated in East Troy.
A couple of mos. back I hooked up a Samsung DTB-H260F Set top box to my 27" Panansonic.
Then I put a gable mount mast on my two story home. It was topped off with a omni directional from Winegard (MS 2000). I received 16 digital channels. The Amsterdam 55.1 series were the weakest. They would drop out at bad weather. I was impressed however that the picture, even at 480 p was amazing.
The signal meter on the tuner may read 2 of 10 and the pic is beautiful.
I received a better signal when I replaced the Omni directional with a directional Winegard 7018. Another channel arrived also - Utica station Channel 2.1.
The remote on the Samsung DTB-H260F is weak and the TV signal supplies the guide/Info that is less accurate than cables. WRGB's is rarely complete for instance.
I pointed the antenna rather haphazardly due to the cold and have yet to mount the 8800 Winegard UHF toward Amsterdam. The Utica Channel is NBC and I have to switch to analog to get 15 My TV. Would anyone recommend persuing other OTA chanels or should I leave well enough alone?
Thanks
David

Come on FIOS!

With my Channel Master Capitaland Special I am now able to get the digitals for 6, 13, 23, and 45. I am unable to get 10 or 17. How is that possible? They are all pretty much in the same direction. I cannot figure out for the life of me how to get 10 in.

I watch little TV, all OTA and the digital setup even less.
Normally WCWN comes in at 7 or 8 bars out of 10.
For the past month or so WCWN 45-1 has been at 2 or 3 bars during the day and not there at all at night.
I would thing it's a connection, but all other stations are fine with the lowest being the VHF ones at 5 or 6 bars.
The past week 45 analog has been nothing but colored snow.
My digital tuner is the Samsung DTB-H260F.
Is WCWN having issues?
Anyone else having this problem?
Thanks

@ LurkerII

Wow that's amazing I get a barely watchable analog signal for 2 out of Utica and you are getting the digital feed.

True

Do you have an issue with the 260 picking up 19-1 and 19-2 and even when deleted from the channel master list it still appears on the program guide?
This means the guide looks for info even though there's no signal, I hate waiting for it to retrieve "no information".
Only way I've found around it is to do a new channel scan when 19-1 and 2 are not coming in.
Then they are not in the guide, but as soon as the signal is back the tuner automatically puts it back into the master list and the guide.

Hello, just wanted to thank all on this forum who let me know high defintion was avaliable thru Time Warner cable without a cable box.

I bought a Panasonic THZ50-700U this week and am watching ABC,NBC,CBS,PBS, and FOX in HD all while still subscrbing to basic cable.

I was told by too many that I couldn't watch HD thru TW without subscrbing to digital cable, etc.

Thank again for your input, I'm going to try using an OTA antenna to compare results but I'm not expecting much as I live in Poestenkill, Renn. Co.

Later
JOB

Let us know differences in picture quality. How far away are you from the antennas?

I am 20 miles east of you and I get most of the digitals with rooftop antennas. I would think you would have no trouble from Poestenkill with a rooftop rig.

Anyone having a problem getting 10-1 (WTEN) via OTA? I can get 10-2, but starting yesterday 10-1 wasn't coming in.

OK here, on 2 receivers. If you still don't get 10-1 but do get 10-2, maybe your receiver has forgotten how. Try tuning 26-1, the real channel, or rescan 26.

I've rescanned 26 to no avail. I'll try again tomorrow. Thanks for the reply.

I don't know if it was my post, #3141, but WCWN has been great since Thursday night.
Thanks if someone did something to correct the problem.

I picked up a Magnavox 19MF337B HDTV and it is more sensitive than the LG model that I have. Now I get 23.1 and 23.2 solid and 45.1 weak. Maybe 45.1 will come in better this coming week end since others on the thread were having problems with it. Thanks to everyone on here that helped me.. Dave