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post #4711 of 5011
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Originally Posted by benway View Post

Is there nothing about 3-6ft long vhf/uhf combo that will work?


http://www.dennysantennaservice.com/...na_design.html

The concept is sound but there's no way to know if the implementation is correct.
post #4712 of 5011
Benway,
If you put your exact coordinates in TV Fool it will take topography into account.
The fact you found the VU-190 on the property tells you what it took for the previous owner to get a signal.
Follow Tower guys link to the stacker set up that guy is selling.
It is a VHF on top of a UHF antenna.
Instead of the UHF antenna stuck on the end of the VHF.
This cuts down the length considerably.
You can do the same thing,
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Originally Posted by Tower Guy
A shorter boom alternative is a CS-600 for VHF and a 4 bay UHF (multiple manufacturers). That changes the preamp to a dual VHF/UHF input preamp such as the Winegard AP-2870 or the Channel Master 7777 or 7778.
When selecting the CS-600 expect problems with reception of WXXA and a greater frequency of dropouts on the other VHF channels.
Or just buy the set up the link points to.
Two seperate antennas can be aimed two different ways also.
Good luck.
post #4713 of 5011
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Originally Posted by SemiChemE View Post

I just checked CW45 and the signal is great. It's coming in at ~65%, which puts it among my strongest channels. It is now comparable to WTEN and WMHT, both of which are consistently very watchable.

I'm in the same vicinity as you and I've also noticed an increase in signal (also around 65%). CW45 has been unwatchable all winter until about a couple of weeks ago. It's not quite as strong as WTEN or WMHT, but it's now consistently watchable with an occasional blackout when the signal temporarily drops below the cliff.
post #4714 of 5011
Just noticed 51-2 pop up on my TV - any guesses or knowledge of what it is going to be? Hoping it is the AntennaTV network!
post #4715 of 5011
thanks all, for the replies/info

I did use co-ordinates for that TV Fool read out.

the old antenna I found looks like it was abandoned many years ago. I suspect the tower/signals have changed since then.

the house was wired for 2 different satellite systems, one big freestanding dish and one DTV type on a chimney, it also had 2 different cable tv's cables in etc

quite a mess of cable, splitters, boxes etc inside.

I'll report back when I get an antenna.

thanks again, all.
post #4716 of 5011
It is antennatv and it is on. Yeah. Come on me-two. Everyone time for a rescan.
post #4717 of 5011
I wonder if TWC will add 51-2 to its system. Since I live in Queensbury and don't have an antenna, I can't get it OTA so TWC would be my only way to get it.
post #4718 of 5011
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Originally Posted by Scott_J View Post

I wonder if TWC will add 51-2 to its system. Since I live in Queensbury and don't have an antenna, I can't get it OTA so TWC would be my only way to get it.

I don't think the question is if, but when will --- it may be the next time contract is up with WNYA - just guessing. I am sure eventually it will be on. Programming is really good if you like 60s TV.
post #4719 of 5011
Here's a few articles I found on trends discovered from a Neilson survey.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/bu...er=rss&emc=rss

http://www.slashgear.com/less-tvs-in...rnet-04149942/

This quote from the New York Times article was worth sharing.

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And some in rural areas could not receive digital signals as effectively as analog signals for technical reasons. In those cases, “if you’re an affluent household — or most middle-class households — you’re going to get a satellite dish. If you’re a struggling household, likely you’re not going to be able to afford that option,” Ms. McDonough said.
post #4720 of 5011
The repeater in Kingston, NY is on the air on channel 24. It is rebroadcasting the folllowing programming:

45-1 CW HD
45-02 Universal Sports SD
45-3 CBS6 SD

Most HDTVs and converters boxes need to be rescanned to find the station.
The antenna necessary to receive these stations will depend on your location.

You can see the coverage here:
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...%26sitenum%3d2

An indoor antenna is likely to work in orange and yellow tinted sections of the maps.

Appropriate indoor antennas include a Channel Master 4040 or Terk HDTVi available from multiple on-line retailers, or a UHF Bow tie available from Radio Shack.

Green areas would be better off with an attic antenna. An attic style antenna can be the Eagle Aspen DB-2 or Channel Master 4220. These will also work in some blue areas.

Blue and violet areas should use a rooftop antenna.

In most cases a roof mounted four bay UHF is suggested. These could be a Winegard HD-4400, Antennacraft U-4000, Antennas Direct C-2, or Channel Master 4221HD.

The most distant or shadowed locations will need the largest antenna. Appropriate models include Channel Master 4228HD, Antennacraft U-8000, Winegard HD8800 or HD-9032, Antennas Direct C-4 or 91-XG.

Coverage extends from Catskill to New Paltz. I'd appreciate reception reports.
post #4721 of 5011
Why are you translating WCWN and not WRGB?

- Trip
post #4722 of 5011
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Why are you translating WCWN and not WRGB?

- Trip

Translating WCWN gets both stations of our CBS-CW duoploy with no remultiplexing equipment.
post #4723 of 5011
You just couldn't make my life easy could you? Now I have to figure out how to list WCWN's programming under the WRGB license on RabbitEars.

- Trip
post #4724 of 5011
When did WYPX go HD? I was watching caddyshack on it yesterday and it looked great. I knew ION was converting their stations but had not heard that Albany was one of them
post #4725 of 5011
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Originally Posted by wkomorow View Post

When did WYPX go HD? I was watching caddyshack on it yesterday and it looked great. I knew ION was converting their stations but had not heard that Albany was one of them

I don't know when the OTA feed went HD but TWC added the channel to its lineup last summer.

I posted this at the AlbanyHDTV forum on 8/9/10:
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I don't know when it was added, but I noticed this weekend while going through the guide that TWC added WYPX-HD (Ion) on 1820.

http://albanyhdtv.proboards.com/inde...1723&post=9153
post #4726 of 5011
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Originally Posted by Chief Fred View Post
The repeater in Kingston, NY is on the air on channel 24. It is rebroadcasting the folllowing programming:

45-1 CW HD
45-02 Universal Sports SD
45-3 CBS6 SD

Most HDTVs and converters boxes need to be rescanned to find the station.
The antenna necessary to receive these stations will depend on your location.

You can see the coverage here:
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...%26sitenum%3d2

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Coverage extends from Catskill to New Paltz. I'd appreciate reception reports.
Rescanned over the weekend. No new channels. Did not pick up CH 24 from my location in Town of Poughkeepsie (Spackenkill area south of the City of Poughkeepsie) using a Winegard HD-1080 on a makeshift 5 foot mast planted in the ground outside the house. That's what I would have expected since my location shows up in the violet area on that TV Fool map.

Hopefully some folks slightly north of my location closer to Kingston might chime in with a reception report.

On the bright side, WCWN 45-1, 45-2 and 45-3 have a reliable signal down here (since beginning of April) ... almost as good as WTEN or WMHT.
post #4727 of 5011
By the way, Channel 24 is now showing up in my TV Fool results as WRGB.

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...574724a2932ae7

I noticed my TV Fool's results also show co-channel interference with WNYE-24 out of NYC. That shouldn't be a problem for folks north of Poughkeepsie as you approach Kingston.
post #4728 of 5011
can anybody tell me the current clear QAM channels available on fios in Albany?
I am in Selkirk and i am trying to map the stations my win7 media center found to the correct guide data.
post #4729 of 5011
bdee1:
Normally I would point you to the SiliconDust Lineup Server which shows what's available via antenna and clear QAM by Zip Code. It lists real and virtual channels, resolution and more. But the FiOS listing for Bethlehem comes and goes. I've seen it but it isn't there now, just antenna and TWC. I haven't found it in other local areas known to have FiOS TV either.

The listings are populated whenever an Internet-connected HDHomeRun tuner does a channel scan. It's possible but unlikely that no one has an HDHR on FiOS locally. I should be getting TV added to my FiOS service on Friday; we'll see what happens then. If it doesn't appear on the server fairly soon I'll type up a listing and post it here (other readers: feel free to beat me to it).
post #4730 of 5011
cool.. i'll keep an eye on that silicondust page and see if the fios listings pop up.... or if someone posts it in the meantime, even better.

Good to know about that silicondust page though - thanks!
post #4731 of 5011
i havent had any luck with the silicondust site any chance someone could post their channel mappings??
post #4732 of 5011
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Originally Posted by ebo View Post

I should be getting TV added to my FiOS service on Friday; we'll see what happens then. If it doesn't appear on the server fairly soon I'll type up a listing and post it here (other readers: feel free to beat me to it).

Friday update: Verizon didn't show. After wading through their really annoying automated phone system (and even being told at one point that their servers were inaccessible so they couldn't pull up my records; please call back in an hour) a Real Person called to apologize and promised to send someone bright and early tomorrow. So, one more day at least.
post #4733 of 5011
Saturday update: FiOS TV installed. I did a scan on an HDHomeRun and a listing for FiOS TV in Bethlehem, NY, 12054 showed up almost immediately on the SiliconDust Lineup Server, but it's screwed up. It shows as a mix of QAM and 8VSB, and some of the RF channels shown are the broadcast channels (6, 7, 12, 13). I'll keep working on it. Meanwhile, the info bdee1 wanted is that SD versions of the locals are on RF 63 and HD versions are on RF 71, 72, 73 and 74. 2 HD subchannels to a channel with from 1 to 4 SD subchannels on each.
post #4734 of 5011
Reception report for Chief Fred:

Like NervousCat I get no signal from Channel 24. I have an attic-mounted Antenna's Direct C-4 antenna (with a CM7777 pre-amp) pointed at the Albany Stations. Also, like NervousCat, I now get very good, reliable signals from WTEN, WMHT, and WCWN (>50%). Of course I also get the local Poughkeepsie stations (WRNN and WTBY) quite well, even though my antenna is pointed away from them.

As for VHF, recently (perhaps since the leaves returned), Channel 6 (WRGB) has degraded and I only get a highly pixellated image with no sound. For whatever reason, I've never been able to receive WNYT or WXXA reliably. Finally, pointing my VHF-Hi antenna toward NYC, I get WPIX very reliably, WNET is usually viewable with occasional glitches, while WABC is usually very glitchy or pixellated. My VHF antennas include a Winegard YA-1713 (VHF-hi only) and an old Taco Electron antenna (for channels 2-13).
post #4735 of 5011
ebo - thanks for posting that info. When i go tinto media center and look at the channels that it picked up - there is nothing in the 70's. it jumps from 66.454 to 80.634.

That is with my avermedia A180 but it still shoudl pick up the same channels as the hdhomerun right?
post #4736 of 5011
bdee1:
I have no experience with Avermedia or Windows Media Center but from what I've read about the latter on the SiliconDust HDHomeRun forum I can just about guarantee that your problems are caused by WMC's design shortcomings (I had a stronger word in mind but don't want to be kicked off the forum). One problem is that WMC ignores subchannels that aren't properly identified, which is true of many on cable or FiOS. That's not the case here for the locals; both HD and SD versions are identified. But it's true of some other channels that are currently in the clear (marked UNKNOWN on the SD Lineup Server). Speaking of which, the server seems to be accurate now for FiOS in 12054 except that it's taking a long time for the thumbnails to fill in. Since the FiOS listing first appeared shortly after I switched one of my HDHomeRuns from antenna to FiOS, I suspect the listings are coming from that box.

Another possible problem is that all of those channels have 4-digit subchannel numbers. For example, WRGB-HD is on 74.1623. MCE may not be able to deal with that. It definitely couldn't in the past.

A quick look at the Avermedia A180 manual shows that it ships with its own application, AVerTV 6. Try that (or whatever the latest version is) to see if it lets you tune those channels. If so, then WMC is the problem. Someone may have worked out a solution. Also make sure WMC is up to date. A later version may have fixed that issue.
post #4737 of 5011
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Originally Posted by wkomorow View Post

It is antennatv and it is on. Yeah. Come on me-two. Everyone time for a rescan.

From a job posting that was recently posted on WNYT's site, it looks like they've reached an agreement to carry Me-TV on 13-2:
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The Digital Account Manager is responsible for generating revenue through selling advertising on wnyt.com website and ME-TV 13.2.

Isn't their weather channel currently on 13-2? Are they finally giving up on that?
post #4738 of 5011
Looks like the weather channel would be more entertaining.
Dobie Gillis, Brady Bunch, Laverne and Shirley.
There is Hogan's Heros and Five-O.
Ah.
post #4739 of 5011
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Originally Posted by Scott_J View Post

From a job posting that was recently posted on WNYT's site, it looks like they've reached an agreement to carry Me-TV on 13-2:

Isn't their weather channel currently on 13-2? Are they finally giving up on that?

Actually, the disappearance of weather (sub)channels from the airwaves has been going on for some time because such channels have had extremely low, if any, viewership. The stations had decided that the weather channels are better off being exclusively on mobile TV (which often requires an additional paid subscription on top of the mobile/wireless phone service).

I've been through this: Chicago now no longer has any over-the-air weather subchannels at all.
post #4740 of 5011
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Originally Posted by RJL1965 View Post

Actually, the disappearance of weather (sub)channels from the airwaves has been going on for some time because such channels have had extremely low, if any, viewership.

That's what I meant by "Are they finally giving up on that?" The "finally" implies they should've dumped it long ago, probably when NBC did away with the national Weather Plus segments. The weather subchannels are worthless. It's so much easier/better to go online or check your phone to get the forecast.
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