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post #61 of 2383
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Originally posted by gjohnsen2002
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Let me know how u make out with the 7775.
Thanks again for all the valuable information....

Gary

I"m going to order it this week. Hopefully I can have it by the weekend. I'll probably go with either spectravox.com or warrenelectronics.com. Spectravox had my 4228 to me in 3 days. I'd like to see the same turn around on the pre-amp....if someone has it in stock.

Not sure where to find one locally. CM's website lists their "distributors" locally. Lowe's and Ace Hdware. are mentioned, yet the Lowes I returned the 3041 back to yesterday (different one from where I purchased it) didn't have ANY pre-amps in stock.
post #62 of 2383
So I moved the antenna and replaced the 2 transformers/coax line wih a simple twin lead, 300 ohm line from the antenna to the amplifier. Moved the antenna and bingo! Best reception ever.

Here's what I get -

WCBS 2 CBS NY - 40, 20 improvement
KYW 3 CBS Phil- 70, No change
WNYW 5 Fox NY - 50. No change
WPVI 6 ABC Phil - 64, 10 improvement
WPHL 17 WB Phil - 40. Huge improvement, it was 0 before!!
NJN 52 PBS Trenton - 70, No change
WHYY 13 PBS Phil - 22. Improvement from 0, but not watchable
WTSG 57 UPN Phil - 64. 10 Improvement
Univision 66 Vineland - 50. 10 Improvement

I am 30 miles from NYC and 50 from Phil. My antenna is located in my attic. I have the CM 4228 and the CM 3041DSB preamp.

The net result is I have improved Ch 6 and 57 while finally procuring Ch. 17.

There will be NO reception of NBC until Ch. 10 gets on the new tower. I have given up on Fox 29 as they are still at low power and I receive Ch. 5 just fine.
post #63 of 2383
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Originally posted by pabuwal
So I moved the antenna and replaced the 2 transformers/coax line wih a simple twin lead, 300 ohm line from the antenna to the amplifier. Moved the antenna and bingo! Best reception ever.

Here's what I get -

WCBS 2 CBS NY - 40, 20 improvement
KYW 3 CBS Phil- 70, No change
WNYW 5 Fox NY - 50. No change
WPVI 6 ABC Phil - 64, 10 improvement
WPHL 17 WB Phil - 40. Huge improvement, it was 0 before!!
NJN 52 PBS Trenton - 70, No change
WHYY 13 PBS Phil - 22. Improvement from 0, but not watchable
WTSG 57 UPN Phil - 64. 10 Improvement
Univision 66 Vineland - 50. 10 Improvement

I am 30 miles from NYC and 50 from Phil. My antenna is located in my attic. I have the CM 4228 and the CM 3041DSB preamp.

The net result is I have improved Ch 6 and 57 while finally procuring Ch. 17.

There will be NO reception of NBC until Ch. 10 gets on the new tower. I have given up on Fox 29 as they are still at low power and I receive Ch. 5 just fine.

AFA that Ch.10 (WCAU) comment you made...is that a fact? I'm so afused when I read comments that certain peoples (albeit closer to Philly than I) but still NJ residents say they can get channel 10 digitally. I can get it (as I believe you can) analog wise...but not digitally. She's dead as doornail!

Channel 29 I'm hoping for an improvement on somehow....but I guess since you comment that it's at low power I feel better
When are they supposed to go "full power"? hopefully before MLB starts in June on Fox?

Channel 5 I'll work on when my rotor comes in.

Did you (or anyone else) experience any "issues" today with the heavy winds? My signals fluctuated heavily on everything but CBS (KYW). I went outside and looked at my CM 4228. She was bobbing and weaving slightly in the wind. Not dangerously mind you, but she was wiggling. Anyway to "control" that? I've thought about going the guy wire route...but even talking to a salesman at RS yesterday led me to believe that it's difficult with the masts that RS sells.

Also...anyone in NJ able to get a digital lock on WHYY? I can't for the life of me. And, also, my e86 recently mapped "44-1"...which is Fox NY. I can pick it up pixelated. But it also maps 5-1 as Fox NY. Is this the same "issue" as the Philly ABC issue (64-1/2 vs 6-1/2)???

And, lastly, I can get a 75 reading on digital channel 34 (WYBE)...but no listing is given for that channel on my E86..hell, I can't even PULL IT UP! Anyone else have an issue like this? It's analog channel 35 (which I can get), but I can't even pull up the digital station.
post #64 of 2383
Up in Somerset, I won't be able to receive Ch. 10. A few people in South Jersey can receive Ch. 10 with varying degrees of success. Most everybody who does receive it never seem to receive it with any consistency. They should be on the new tower very soon. I heard it was already to go, but the inclement weather prevented it.

If you can receive Ch. 5/44 ok, then forget about 29. They were supposed to be on the new tower last September, then this Spring and now someone (JWhip?) was reporting they would be on the new tower next year!

My antenna is in the attic, so I haven't noticed too many signal problems with the wind.

Like I said before, the Philadelphia Digital situation must rank among the worst among the top 10 markets. Only 3 (UPN, CBS, ABC) of 7 channels can be consistently received by most of the analog audience. The other 4 (WB, FOX, NBC, PBS) are broadcasting, but are generally not viewable by the same audience who can clearly receive their analog signals!

Regarding the NYC situation, there are reports the remainder of the channels may start transmitting from ESB by this summer, but that seems to slip all the time also.
post #65 of 2383
I'm down in Freehold township and the only Philadelphia digital station I can get consistanly is KYW. I can pick up most of the Philadelphia analogs except KYW go figure.

I also pick up WCBS-DT, WWOR-DT, WNYW-DT and WNJU-DT.
post #66 of 2383
pabuwal


I am up in northern Somerset County (Basking Ridge) and I do receive 10-1 NBC since I upgraded to the Channel Master pre-amp discussed earlier in this threat. Unless your location is poor you may want to look into it. The Lowes in Piscataway should be too far away.
post #67 of 2383
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Originally posted by tonyo123
pabuwal


I am up in northern Somerset County (Basking Ridge) and I do receive 10-1 NBC since I upgraded to the Channel Master pre-amp discussed earlier in this
threat. Unless your location is poor you may want to look into it. The Lowes in Piscataway should be too far away.

Are you saying this is a threat???

The oddness that is digital reception will continue to make me have the desire to conquer it! I had the feeling "going in" to this thing that it would be a prolonged effort. Concentrating on not one but [i]TWO[i] cities has made it more difficult!

But, my mindset is, if the signal is out there, I want it!

Now I've just got to figure out the best way to get it!

post #68 of 2383
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Originally posted by wward
I'm down in Freehold township and the only Philadelphia digital station I can get consistanly is KYW. I can pick up most of the Philadelphia analogs except KYW go figure.

I also pick up WCBS-DT, WWOR-DT, WNYW-DT and WNJU-DT.

For me, Freehold is the closest that I've seen someone currently posting AFA receiving digital signals. None of neighbors are playing the OTA game and I haven't spoken to anyone in my "area" who has an HD setup. Speaking to a salesman at RS in the East Brunswick mall has been the closest I've come feedback wise. He concurred on the difficulty in receiving WCAU as well as the big two (NBC/ABC) from NYC. Everything else, according to him, was trial and error basically.

hat works for one person won't always work for someone else. Or so I was told.
post #69 of 2383
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Originally posted by pabuwal
If you can receive Ch. 5/44 ok, then forget about 29. They were supposed to be on the new tower last September, then this Spring and now someone (JWhip?) was reporting they would be on the new tower next year!

I assume that Fox will be broadcasting MLB in their "enhanced widescreen mode"???

I plan on having the rotor up by the end of the month and the pre-amp as well and then I'll go from there.


Regarding the NYC situation, there are reports the remainder of the channels may start transmitting from ESB by this summer, but that seems to slip all the time also. [/quote]

Seems it's all a closely guarded, conjecture based mystery eh? I honestly never paid attention to the whole HD/Digital TV debates until I was ready to jump into the pool.

Now I can't get enough
post #70 of 2383
As to the 7775 vs. the 3041 DSB - The 3041 is specced at 3 dB gain less and .2 dB noise figure more than the 7775. (High gain and low NF are both good).

The 3041DSB has separate amplifier circuits for VHF and UHF, so for UHF signals you can consider it to be a UHF-only amplifier.

There are VERY few situations where an amplifier can make a signal worse. Of those, the most likely problem you will run into by far is intermodulation. This occurs when the amplifier is overdriven to the point where it becomes nonlinear (and in the worst of cases, starts clipping the signal.) Essentially, if one strong station (For example, WNJB in New Brunswick is running 1.3 megawatts according to www.100000watts.com on UHF channel 58) drives the amplifier into clipping, then it will ruin reception on ALL channels. In the analog domain, the strong station will appear like a ghost in the background of weaker stations when you tune them. Also, in extreme cases, the strong station will become completely garbled due to the sync signals being clipped. This happened to me when I tried to follow my 3041 with a distribution amp that had too much gain. (I dropped back to the old lower-gain distribution amp and everything became better.)

Before returning the 3041 and ordering the 7775, do a comparison of HOW the signal got worse. Specifically:
a) Is New Brunswick in the same direction as the antenna is pointed? If you're close to NB, even 90 degrees or more off could be problematic.
b) How does reception change on your analogs? Does it appear like another channel is interfering with them? Does the interfering image look like what a known strong station in the area is broadcasting? (For example, if it's early morning and there's a ghost image of Barney interfering with the Today Show on NBC, and when you tune to Ch58, you hear that damn dinosaur's voice crystal clear, then WNJB is overloading your amp.)
c) In the case of Ch58 WNJB, does putting the amp in line cause the set to completely or partially lose sync with the signal?

If you run these tests and it seems to be intermod, return the 3041. Do NOT order a 7775 - It has 3 dB more gain but only 1 dB more output amplitude capability, in an intermod situation it will perform WORSE.

In such a case, I believe Lowes carries a distribution amplifier with 12 dB gain. Not the best preamp, but it will be an improvement over raw antenna and it will be far less likely to get overloaded. Distribution amps are typically designed to have lower gain and higher output capability.

Edit: As far as communications while aligning antennas - FRS radios work great. My family has a huge collection of them that we use for family vacations.
post #71 of 2383
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Originally posted by pabuwal
So I moved the antenna and replaced the 2 transformers/coax line wih a simple twin lead, 300 ohm line from the antenna to the amplifier. Moved the antenna and bingo! Best reception ever.

Here's what I get -

WCBS 2 CBS NY - 40, 20 improvement
KYW 3 CBS Phil- 70, No change
WNYW 5 Fox NY - 50. No change
WPVI 6 ABC Phil - 64, 10 improvement
WPHL 17 WB Phil - 40. Huge improvement, it was 0 before!!
NJN 52 PBS Trenton - 70, No change
WHYY 13 PBS Phil - 22. Improvement from 0, but not watchable
WTSG 57 UPN Phil - 64. 10 Improvement
Univision 66 Vineland - 50. 10 Improvement

I am 30 miles from NYC and 50 from Phil. My antenna is located in my attic. I have the CM 4228 and the CM 3041DSB preamp.

The net result is I have improved Ch 6 and 57 while finally procuring Ch. 17.

There will be NO reception of NBC until Ch. 10 gets on the new tower. I have given up on Fox 29 as they are still at low power and I receive Ch. 5 just fine.

I'm in Piscataway with a Samsung SIR-T150. I can get CBS, FOX and UPN all with just a Zenith Silver Sensor antenna inside. You should be able to pick up UPN NYC no problem with your setup.

Maybe we should get together and do some testing. I'm looking an the Winegard HD-7084P antenna and the Winegard AP-8700 Amp for Philly. I'd be interested in checking out your setup and I can bring my compass, my Samsung and the Zenith and we can flail around helplessly.

I was told that height was very important and that you should move your antenna up and down on the mast and mark the best height. I need to look for a rotor. Right now all I have is the Silver Sensor and a RS Attic antenna with a 10db inline preamp that both go into an A/B switch and then into my receiver. I did this because I don't have a rotor on the antenna on the roof and this way I can easily switch between the roof antenna and the indoor one. Obviously I can turn the indoor one and move it around in attempts to pick up something other than what I'm getting.

All I'm getting right now are NYC channels CBS, FOX and UPN. The only one out of those three with HD is CBS. All the rest of NYC is in limbo since the 911 attack so Philly is our best bet.

From what I understand we're about 22miles from NYC and 55 from Philly.
post #72 of 2383
Out of curiosity:

I may be designing a dedicated UHF antenna for receiving the NYC digitals. Essentially, sacrificing performance below Ch44 in order to obtain high gain at a small size for 44 and 56 only. Would anyone be interested in the design?

I will likely be building one, but it's not definite. I'm still deciding. It will be a log-periodic design based on the LPDA design chapter of the ARRL Antenna Book. Similar to a Silver Sensor except longer and dedicated to the higher UHF channels.

I've written a Perl script that does most of the calculations necessary and will be posting it to the forums shortly.

Preliminary info:
Length: 2.54 feet
Elements: 11
Gain: Approx 9-10 dBi (CM 4228 is 12 dBd = around 14.2 dBi)
Covers channels 43-58 (approx.)

Comparatively, a full-coverage (14-58) antenna with the same gain would be 5 feet long and need 19 elements.

Edit: OT question - For those who use NYC as their primary source of broadcast TV, what is OTA Ch11 analog like for you? I've found that no matter what I do, WPIX always has pretty nasty interference on the channel, I don't know if it's local or not. (Z100's second harmonic happens to lie smack dab in the middle of Ch11.) Although I guess these days most people here are only focusing on UHF OTA HD and obtaining everything else via satellite or cable - I myself would be using DirecTV if it weren't for $1200 worth of tree removal between my house and LOS on their satellite.
post #73 of 2383
I live in Manalapan and on Saturday I had a 14' roof antenna, rotor, and pre-amp/amp installed. I am able to get FOX, and CBS out of NY and ABC, CBS, FOX, UPN out of Philly. I had gotten NBC, but yeterday it was not available.

Ken
post #74 of 2383
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Originally posted by ken6217
I live in Manalapan and on Saturday I had a 14' roof antenna, rotor, and pre-amp/amp installed. I am able to get FOX, and CBS out of NY and ABC, CBS, FOX, UPN out of Philly. I had gotten NBC, but yeterday it was not available.

Ken

Ken,

Is your PHILLY ABC signal steady without pixelation and dropouts? For some reason I only seem to get ABC on seriously cold nights and/or freezing AM's since I put the antenna up on 3/2. I checked the house before I left today this AM and ABC was still coming in steady and the WB had jumped up to a 65 on my Hughes E86 strength meter. I was even able to watch that UNIVISION channel (58 digital).

Anyone with a Hughes able to get a signal strength on digital channel 34...but NOT have it show up in the guide?? For some reason I have a 100 strength on digital channel 34, but I can't for the life of my figure out which digital channel it is...even AFTER doing scans and re-entering in zipcodes.

Weird!
post #75 of 2383
Ch34 is WYBE-DT (http://www.wybe.org/) - Looks like a public television station, although no PBS affiliate logos anywhere. Running 500 kW at 1100 feet or so according to www.100000watts.com

Maybe they haven't completely gotten their digital station up and running...
post #76 of 2383
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Originally posted by Entropy512
Ch34 is WYBE-DT (http://www.wybe.org/) - Looks like a public television station, although no PBS affiliate logos anywhere. Running 500 kW at 1100 feet or so according to www.100000watts.com

Maybe they haven't completely gotten their digital station up and running...

I believe it's analog 35...at least I'm remembing letters along those lines in my E86 guide that I unchecked from the lineup. Analog comes in very static laden, but for some reason I can't tune into a "34" on the digital counterpart---although it's a 100 signal on the meter. Just figured I'd ask.

Also, I noticed since I went up on the roof and futzed around with my 4228, 43-2 (which has the HD content for whichever PBS station that is), although it still shows a 100 on the meter, when watching program has pixelation (kind of like a digital shmear) every 60 or so seconds. No drop outs or anything like that...but just irritating pixels that pop up here and there. Found it odd that the meter was a steady 100 (no fluctuations when I sat and observed the strength screen) so I'm not sure what I did to make it happen.

Out of curiousity, should RG-6 cable running from my satellite antenna "interfere" in any way with the CM4228 RG-6 if they are coming into the house through the same entry point? Two totally separate cables mind you. I was just curious because I've been reading posts/info about how you shouldn't run rotor cables through the same entry point as your antenna wiring and I was curious as to whether the same is true of satellite wiring next to OTA antenna wiring.
post #77 of 2383
Shouldn't be an issue at all. If it were twinlead, that would be Very Bad, but in the case of coaxial cable, there should be NO signal on the outside of the outer shield. In fact, many people put ferrites on their coax to ensure that no such currents flow. (This is almost critical when feeding some antenna designs without a balun - Very common in WLAN collinear designs.)

In fact, theoretically if you connected the outer shields together it shouldn't make a difference and might actually be an improvement. (An example would be the dual-terminal grounding blocks some manufacturers sell.)
post #78 of 2383
Jayby,

It has been steady however I haven't watched that much tv at all since I had the installation. I will check it out tonight and let you know. Does anyone know why there is a problem with NBC out of Philly for us?

Ken
post #79 of 2383
NBC out of Philly is operating lower power and from a lower height than most other stations according to www.100000watts.com - I've seen MANY reports on this forum of NBC being problematic for many people.
post #80 of 2383
Thread Starter 
Last night was the probably THE best night for HD/Digital TV viewing since I put up my antenna.

Philly WB came in---but for some reason that "Everwood" show was in 4:3 and not 16:9---hdtvgalaxy shows it as an "HD" show.

Philly Fox came in although there was nothing work watching

Philly CBS, as always, came in...with the whole lineup being in HD

Philly ABC was in the WHOLE night....the Practice was on in 720P--although I wasn't too impressed with the picture.

66-1 Univision, Spanish---came in. Seemed to be in SD mode and stretched. Was happy to get a solid lock so I viewed it

43-2...the HD demo loop...I didn't have that "shmear" of pixelation every 60 seconds or so that I had on Saturday and Sunday...maybe it was the wind since it was less windy yesterday.

I'm interested in seeing how much my signal strength will drop when it gets warmer out. I'm noticing that the BEST viewing nights (i.e. when almost ALL the digital channels are viewable) for me have been clear/cold nights.

Once I get the pre-amp (which I still haven't ordered) up maybe that'll make it all moot.
post #81 of 2383
I noticed an improvement on WB 17 last night also (signal strength of 55)!

The Practice PQ stunk. Much worse then earlier this season. It has to be the subchannel.

My understanding is 720P requires more bandwidth then 1080i. It would make sense this is the channel that could least afford to give up any bandwidth.

It doesn't make sense that this is the channel that actually gives up the bandwidth. There is no reason at all for this subchannel.
post #82 of 2383
I did check ABC out of Pilly last night and I did get it without any breakup or pixelation. Last night was my first real night watching since I had the antenna set up. I watched CSI Miami on a 92" Stewarts screen and it was great.

Ken
post #83 of 2383
Thread Starter 
I figured I'd mention two cool site that some of you *may* not know about.

www.hdtvpub.com

You can go here, put in your zip and find which stations are broadcasting in the area...or go to a city close by and see which cities are broadcasting (for us that would be Philly and NYC) and you can click on the "more info" button for those stations that come up and it gives you some useful info (power, tower location, height of tower---kind of like 100000watts.com but I think it's a little "neater" looking) and you can read about those in your zip, city, county, DMA who have received HD/DT signals.

Also found this cool link...although it's pretty technical. You can put in the station call letters or a conundrum of other info and get some specs on teh tower:

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/video/tvq.html

Enjoy!
post #84 of 2383
Does *anybody* know where a ChannelMaster 4228 and CM 3041DSB (or equivalent) pre-amp are available for purchase in the Central NJ area? I'd rather not buy on-line, but it looks like that is the only option.

I've tried Lowe's in Piscataway (no outdoor antennas whatsoever) and the only pre-amps were el cheapo varieties. Also tried a couple of Ace/True Value hardware stores (no, don't stock them, but you can order them from a catalog....big whoop).

Any other possibilities?

TIA,
SteveK
post #85 of 2383
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Originally posted by SteveK2
Does *anybody* know where a ChannelMaster 4228 and CM 3041DSB (or equivalent) pre-amp are available for purchase in the Central NJ area? I'd rather not buy on-line, but it looks like that is the only option.

I've tried Lowe's in Piscataway (no outdoor antennas whatsoever) and the only pre-amps were el cheapo varieties. Also tried a couple of Ace/True Value hardware stores (no, don't stock them, but you can order them from a catalog....big whoop).

Any other possibilities?

TIA,
SteveK

I know the Lowe's in Old Bridge (Rte 9) and the Lowe's in Marlboro (also Rte 9) had at least 1 3041DSB each as of 3/9....I took the 2nd to last one from the OB store and returned the same one to the Marlboro store this past weekend

AFA local retailers...that I'm not sure of. There's a place on Rte 18 (East Brunswick) called "Innovative Installations" ...but they told me they don't sell to the public...only sales/installations. CM's website lists a retailer over in Hazlet I believe on Rte 34. Check the channelmaster website and look for their distributors page. I believe there were a few retailers in NJ listed there. I bought mine from spectravox and I just ordered a CM7775 pre-amp from warren electronics online.

What channels are you able to get right now with your current setup? I have a CM 4228 and I'm pretty happy with it. I think the limitations I have so far with reception are more location/transmitter specific than antenna specific.
post #86 of 2383
Had already checked Channel Master's site....only distributor specific to NJ was the one in Hazlet (Rte 34 or 36). Otherwise everyone listed was a 'nationa' chain like Ace/True Hardware and Lowe's.

Right now, I'm using the "magic" antenna. 30' of old RG59 (the original cabling inside my house's basement) with a connector at one end and about 12" of exposed copper conductor at the other.

With that arrangement, I've received signal strength of 69% for WCBS (2-1) and 36% for WNYW/WWOR (5-1, 5-2). I exposed about 10" of the aluminum (I think) braid (just took off the outer plastic layer) and was able to pull-in NJN (43-1, 43-2) out of Trenton with a 20% signal.

Would like to be able to set-up an antenna in the attic (gonna try the CM 4228) to get the Philly channels.

Will probably try one or two more Lowe's (via phone)....if that doesn't work out, then I'll probably go the on-line route.

Why did you return the 3041 pre-amp???

SteveK
post #87 of 2383
www.starkelectronic.com will do the trick for you. I called them and ordered over the phone and received my antenna and the 7775 amp in 3 days.
post #88 of 2383
Paul,
Just ordered the CM4228 and CM 7775 from Stark Electronics. Said they'll ship today. According to UPS transit times....should arrive tomorrow. I'll settle for Friday so I have it for the weekend.

Anybody have any specific hints/tips about connecting the CM4428 and CM7775?

SteveK
post #89 of 2383
Thread Starter 
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Originally posted by SteveK2
Right now, I'm using the "magic" antenna. 30' of old RG59 (the original cabling inside my house's basement) with a connector at one end and about 12" of exposed copper conductor at the other.

With that arrangement, I've received signal strength of 69% for WCBS (2-1) and 36% for WNYW/WWOR (5-1, 5-2). I exposed about 10" of the aluminum (I think) braid (just took off the outer plastic layer) and was able to pull-in NJN (43-1, 43-2) out of Trenton with a 20% signal.

Steve,

What kind of receiver are you using? And are you getting consistent signals without dropouts at the signal strength you quoted above? Mine seem to only hold steady (with unnoticeable/non-bothersome dropouts) with a 55% or so signal on my Hughes E86. I know the signal strength isn't uniform across all STB's and it really isn't a TRUE measure of strength...but I was just curious.

Last night Philly WB wasn't giving me a picture and WPVI ABC was pixelated and for the most part unwatchable. But 66-1 (Spanish Univision) was still there...oh joy!

And, for a faint second, I had a signal strength of "6" for the ever elusive WCAU (10-1). Maybe she'll magically appear in the near future

Either way, it seems it's a nightly mystery what I'll be able to receive from Philly when I get home other than the rock solid UPN and CBS and 43-1/2/3/4....and, to reiterate, this seems to be the norm from Philly for us Central NJ'ians.

My personal experience is that when it's cold out and clear, I can get pretty much everything from Philly wiht the exception of WCAU (10-1).

I'm waiting for my rotor and CM 7775 pre-amp to come in. Hopefully it'll be here by the weekend.

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Would like to be able to set-up an antenna in the attic (gonna try the CM 4228) to get the Philly channels.

I have the 4228. It's a pretty decent antenna---though I've got nothing to compare it to

I haven't tried moving it around the roof to see if I'd get better reception in certain areas, but where she is she gets CBS and UPN from Philly at 100% EVERY NIGHT. And, when I tested it by turning towards NYC one afternoon I picked up WCBS and Fox-5. I've read that WPIX will start their 24 hour programming DT channel next week---but it'll be low power and I'm not sure if we'll be able to get it where *most* of us are.

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Will probably try one or two more Lowe's (via phone)....if that doesn't work out, then I'll probably go the on-line route.

Why did you return the 3041 pre-amp???

I returned it because it didn't improve my reception. I probably didn't play around with it long enough. The 4228 has a balun connector/transformer (establishes a connection between the antenna itself and the 75 ohm rg-6 i'm using) and the 3041DSB had a 300ohm twin lead connection. Maybe I went wrong there. I don't know. The Cm7775 has a 75 ohm input and output so I'm hoping that will be a bit easier and more receptive to my 4228.

We'll see.
post #90 of 2383
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What kind of receiver are you using? And are you getting consistent signals without dropouts at the signal strength you quoted above? Mine seem to only hold steady (with unnoticeable/non-bothersome dropouts) with a 55% or so signal on my Hughes E86. I know the signal strength isn't uniform across all STB's and it really isn't a TRUE measure of strength...but I was just curious.

Using a Samsung SIR-T160 (Directv/Cable/OTA) receiver. WCBS is rock steady picture-wise....I've seen signal fluctuations from 66% down to 33% every few seconds...but doesn't seem to affect picture quality. If the fluctuation is down to 20%, will get an occasional picture breakup. But its very watchable.

The coax antenna is a freebie and its non-directional. So I was just glad to receive any picture at all.

SteveK
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