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post #15691 of 16057
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Originally Posted by pastiche View Post

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I think that this will be the last time I update this list. Since Comcast is now providing equipment for Limited Basic customers, I've started using a CableCARD on my HDTV and a DTA on my older SDTV and I'm happier than I was with my QAM set-tops.

Thanks for doing this for such a long time. I'm using a CableCARD setup now, but your posts were greatly appreciated while I was using a pure ClearQAM setup.

Thanks!
post #15692 of 16057
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Since Comcast is now providing equipment for Limited Basic customers...

How do you go about that? I just got off chat with a tech rep who said only Basic customers got a free set-top box.
post #15693 of 16057
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Originally Posted by Sea3 View Post

Thanks!

No problem. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by joshkelley View Post

How do you go about that? I just got off chat with a tech rep who said only Basic customers got a free set-top box.

When I got the letter from Comcast that said my area was going all-digital (see the attachment to cbdavi19's post), I called the number indicated. I asked them for one DTA and one CableCARD, and they shipped me the DTA, although they weren't able to ship me a CableCARD. After I got the DTA, I took the letter to Comcast in North Seattle, just off Aurora, and they gave me the CableCARD.

I'm being charged for neither the DTA nor the CableCARD. My bill is still for "Limited Cable Service - $16.35" (the current price in the Seattle city limits for Limited Basic), although there's now another line-item for "Digital Adapter Service, Additional Outlet - $0.00".

Maybe the tech thought that you were asking about what Comcast refers to as a "digital set-top box"? Comcast considers a DTA to be something much less than what they call a "digtal set-top box", and, if I understand correctly, you'd have to pay a rental fee for a full-featured set-top. (The DTA has no listings, no OnDemand access, no PPV access, etc.)
post #15694 of 16057
Where is this? We have no channel 321 in Bellevue.
post #15695 of 16057
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Originally Posted by Dr. Music View Post

Where is this? We have no channel 321 in Bellevue.

Seattle Channel is only on Channel 21/321 in Seattle.

In Bellevue, Channel 21 is Bellevue TV.
post #15696 of 16057
Thank you. I'll be glad when the analog channels are turned off here and they add new channels.
post #15697 of 16057
TV Japan Freeview from November 1st to November 15th
Channel 245 on all boxes. Including those little DTA "nothing" boxes!
post #15698 of 16057
Not all Comcast get TV Japan and some our in 6 Hundred's.
post #15699 of 16057
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Originally Posted by mgsports View Post

Not all Comcast get TV Japan and some our in 6 Hundred's.

A couple of tv's find it at 96.15 ... a hook must be missing because the other 2 tvs will find it when entered, but it doesn't show up in the tables & can't be saved.
post #15700 of 16057
Just to clarify, Comcast is going to encrypt the local clear QAM channels also?
post #15701 of 16057
I don't think Comcast is allowed to do it in Seattle proper. If I remember correctly their franchise agreement with the city forbids it.
post #15702 of 16057
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Originally Posted by bigpoppa206 View Post

Just to clarify, Comcast is going to encrypt the local clear QAM channels also?

The letter that went out to analog-only customers advising of the anlog shutdown stated in its fine print, "QAM tuner TVs will continue to receive Limited Basic channels 2-29, 72-79, 95-99 ... without a digital device unless signals are encrypted."

A few weeks after that letter went out, however, the FCC changed the rules, and encryption of the basic tier is now permitted.
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Originally Posted by hdfatboy2003 View Post

I don't think Comcast is allowed to do it in Seattle proper. If I remember correctly their franchise agreement with the city forbids it.

The only mention of encryption I can find in the franchise agreement is in section 7.1, "(B) Grantee shall comply with all FCC regulations regarding scrambling or other encryption of signals." Until recently, that certainly would've effectively forbidden basic-tier encryption at the franchise level.
post #15703 of 16057
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Originally Posted by pastiche View Post

The only mention of encryption I can find in the franchise agreement is in section 7.1, ....
Can that be translated into English? HA HA!
post #15704 of 16057
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Originally Posted by thefalcon2k View Post

Can that be translated into English? HA HA!

Sure:

Comcast: "We're going to encrypt local stations so that everyone will have to use our equipment and we can make out like bandits on rental charges."

City of Seattle: "Go right ahead and do whatever you want, just as long as you keep collecting all our taxes and fees."
post #15705 of 16057
Well that sucks. So rather than making my own recordings with a custom HTPC and Windows Media Center, I will be forced to use Tivo?
post #15706 of 16057
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Originally Posted by bigpoppa206 View Post

Well that sucks. So rather than making my own recordings with a custom HTPC and Windows Media Center, I will be forced to use Tivo?
Not necessarily - you'd just need to use a Cablecard tuner like HDHR Prime or Ceton.
post #15707 of 16057
Or MythTV and cable card in any old linux box.
post #15708 of 16057
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Originally Posted by Mercite View Post

Or MythTV and cable card in any old linux box.
Can you record all the stations with a cable card and mythtv at this point? Or at least the local HDs? Curious what the copy flags are set to. I currently use QAM and an HD Homerun for the local stations, but if QAM local HDs are gonna be encrypted I need a new plan. Right now I was thinking about installing an OTA antenna, but a cable card solution would be fine. Just worried about that being blocked for as well for us Linux users.
post #15709 of 16057
Only Windows Media Center has the DRM needed to handle encrypted and/or copy protected content. You can get the same clear QAM channels with CableCARD on MythTV as you do now but if/when locals are encrypted you'd need CableCARD with DRM support in the software to receive them.
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/CableCARD
post #15710 of 16057
I get all the local HD content, plus Showtime Extreme. The rest of the HBO and Showtime feeds do not come in on MythTV for me on Mercer Island Comcast..
post #15711 of 16057
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Originally Posted by Mercite View Post

I get all the local HD content, plus Showtime Extreme. The rest of the HBO and Showtime feeds do not come in on MythTV for me on Mercer Island Comcast..
Thanks - that would be more than sufficient.
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Originally Posted by glorpsd View Post

Only Windows Media Center has the DRM needed to handle encrypted and/or copy protected content. You can get the same clear QAM channels with CableCARD on MythTV as you do now but if/when locals are encrypted you'd need CableCARD with DRM support in the software to receive them.
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/CableCARD
Are you saying they will set the copy flag away from "copy free" at the same time they will encrypt the QAM channels or are you just saying when the channels are encrypted I'll need a cable card? I believe the QAM encryption for a cable card tuner is irrelevant for MythTV. Myth's restriction is around the copy (CCI) flag. Channels can be encrypted and still set to copy free (which Showtime Extreme must be based on the previous post). They need to be copy free for MythTV to be able to tune them with a cable card.
post #15712 of 16057
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Originally Posted by newlinux View Post

Thanks - that would be more than sufficient.
Are you saying they will set the copy flag away from "copy free" at the same time they will encrypt the QAM channels or are you just saying when the channels are encrypted I'll need a cable card? I believe the QAM encryption for a cable card tuner is irrelevant for MythTV. Myth's restriction is around the copy (CCI) flag. Channels can be encrypted and still set to copy free (which Showtime Extreme must be based on the previous post). They need to be copy free for MythTV to be able to tune them with a cable card.

I don't think anyone can say for sure about what happens in the long run with the CopyOnce issue. But putting that aside you always need CableCARD to decrypt any encrypted cable channel. Perhaps I don't understand what you are asking. MythTV plus CableCARD would get you any encrypted and CopyFreely content but none that was encrypted + CopyOnce. Comcast is benign as far as marking things CopyOnce at this point. I don't think anyone can say what they would do with locals once they encrypt them but since they own NBC and the affiliates now, I guess technically they can decide to mark them however they choose. I assume that's unlikely to be CopyOnce for the short term or at least until they do everything else.

There is a link at the link in my previous post which tells you exactly what Comcast-specific channels Myth+CableCARD can receive now in the Seattle area. You can probably extend that based on whatever assumptions you want to make for an encrypted local channel.
Edited by glorpsd - 11/27/12 at 2:03pm
post #15713 of 16057
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Originally Posted by glorpsd View Post

I don't think anyone can say for sure about what happens in the long run with the CopyOnce issue. But putting that aside you always need CableCARD to decrypt any encrypted cable channel. Perhaps I don't understand what you are asking. MythTV plus CableCARD would get you any encrypted and CopyFreely content but none that was encrypted + CopyOnce. Comcast is benign as far as marking things CopyOnce at this point. I don't think anyone can say what they would do with locals once they encrypt them but since they own NBC and the affiliates now, I guess technically they can decide to mark them however they choose. I assume that's unlikely to be CopyOnce for the short term or at least until they do everything else.
There is a link at the link in my previous post which tells you exactly what Comcast-specific channels Myth+CableCARD can receive now in the Seattle area. You can probably extend that based on whatever assumptions you want to make for an encrypted local channel.

The question I was originally asking (what stations can you currently get with a cable card with MythTV) was answered by Mercite. I've seen the link in your original response before, and it has "unknown/none" on most of the local HDs which is why I was asking someone who is actually using it to be sure. I wasn't sure what you were trying to say in your response so my next questions were asking for clarifications on what you were saying. I know all about CCI and encryption and that a cable card is needed for encrypted channels and what Myth needs a channel to be set to in order to record from a cable card tuner. And I know that channel copy/encryption settings are not guaranteed over time, just like they haven't been with firewire and QAM.

Your response started off by noting I'll need a Windows Media Center to handle DRM, and then it reads that once the local channels are encrypted I'll need DRM software and a cable card. I didn't know if you were trying to say they would be no longer be set to copy free at the same time they are encrypted because that's the only setting that would require me to need WMC. If they aren't changed to copy once or copy never then I will be fine with MythTV and a cable card.
post #15714 of 16057
Latest Cumcast statement indicates that MundoFOX will be added to Limited Basic package. It showed up last night at 79.110, but this morning is encrypted. ....111.1 & .2 also popped up...FOXHD and CWHD, dups from 11.1 and 13.1. Also, last months statement indicated that 28.1HD would be added...some tvs find it at 12.1 others don't find it at all.
post #15715 of 16057
Just noticed 106.2908...showing a movie, don't know the channel identity. ...just Ided it...Starz Comedy.
Edited by levibluewa - 12/6/12 at 2:45pm
post #15716 of 16057
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Originally Posted by levibluewa View Post

Just noticed 106.2908...showing a movie, don't know the channel identity. ...just Ided it...Starz Comedy.
Unfortunately, this isn't available in Bremerton.
post #15717 of 16057
Anyone else getting audio description from NBC King5?
post #15718 of 16057
5.1 seems to be running normal here in Bremerton
post #15719 of 16057
I just noticed that KBTC HD (108) is finally available on 12-1 in Mill Creek. KBTC2 is on 12-2.
post #15720 of 16057
Still don't have KBTC-HD here in Sammamish...
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