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post #241 of 16058
ESPN-HD and KCTS. Hmmm. I'm getting closer to pulling the treigger on Comcast HD, but I'm afraid this won't be enough to justify the cost of upgrade. I'm determined to wait until we see a press release regarding at least one of our locals (besides, KCTS, of course).

Doug had mentioned that ESPN-HD pic quality was not too great--anyone else have any firsthand experience? I've been waiting for the day I can see college football in HD. I might have to sign up before the season starts...
post #242 of 16058
There hasn't been an actual HD broadcast yet, but the std broadcast is excellent. A better picture than Directv (std ESPN) by far. I'm very happy with it and cannot wait for football.
post #243 of 16058
That is if you don't mind it being stretched. If I couldn't make it a normal 4:3 aspect ratio for their upconverts I'd be watching ch. 31 instead.
post #244 of 16058
I think tomorrow's football game is the first actual HD broadcast we will see.

The main complaint has been the stretched picture that viewers can't do anything about. It looks like they're using "Full" stretch mode instead of "Panorama", which would look better.
post #245 of 16058
Ah--I see. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the stretchiness (if it's not done well). I like my Tosh 42HDX82's TheaterWide stretch modes, but I'm not a fan of, for example, the way KCTS stretches their multicast DTV station. I really hope the HD produtions are done well. I really do.

Report back, folks! I'm all a-twitter!

Also, how does the cost breakdown look? I'm currently paying $12/month for analog vanilla-basic service. So, I'd probably step it up to digital cable. (BTW, How much is that per month?). Are ESPN-HD, KCTS-HD (if it ever happens) and the Mariners game-channel an added fee on top of digital cable service? (I don't care about HBO or Showtime, or whatever movie channel they've got.)

Andy
post #246 of 16058
Digital cable is an extra 12$ month on top of basic cable costs..

rigth now comcast is running a deal where you get a dpremium channel package for 3months (reg $26.00/mo) for $9.99 which is actually cheaper than regular digital cable which will run you $11.00 a month..

Make sure you request an HD reciver when you get the package, it comes with no additional cost, you just have to request it specifically

n8
post #247 of 16058
Andy,

If all you wanted to receive were the new KCTS feeds, then you could simply add the DCT5100 box to your Comcast account. The only additional charge you would pay (other than what you are currently paying) would be for the box rental. All the box would do in that case is allow you to receive the KCTS feeds (no digital program guide, no PPV access, etc.). If you wanted to receive ESPN HD, then what NizZ8 is saying would apply.
post #248 of 16058
Hello...I'm new to this post.

Not sure if this is old news...I received an Email from Comcast this morning -

Hi Michael,
You've got great timing. We are scheduled to offer KCTS in high definition
beginning tomorrow on channel 108. In addition, earlier this week we began
offering ESPN in high definition as well.
Enjoy!

Steve Kipp
Executive Director of Communications
Comcast
post #249 of 16058
Quote:


Originally posted by mpritc

Not sure if this is old news...I received an Email from Comcast this morning -

Hi Michael,
You've got great timing. We are scheduled to offer KCTS in high definition
beginning tomorrow on channel 108. In addition, earlier this week we began
offering ESPN in high definition as well.
Enjoy!

Steve Kipp
Executive Director of Communications
Comcast

Wow, how do you get a personal email direct from Steve Kipp himself?
post #250 of 16058
and, why didn't you ask him where all of our other local channels are...
post #251 of 16058
The KCTS channels have appeared!


Ch. 108 - KCTS in High Definition

Ch. 109 - KCTS Digital Simulcast (24/7)

Ch. 110 - KCTS Kids

Ch. 112 - KCTS Learns
post #252 of 16058
yep, there here for me in shoreline as well...no programming on the HD channel right now (off air)...is there a demo loop? I'm getting no picture, but I might have a signal level problem

Rich
post #253 of 16058
a couple of posts above says they only broadast hd from 5pm to 12am
post #254 of 16058
Quote:


Originally posted by Tivolicious
I understand what you are trying to say.



Cheers,
Steve

You know, I started to write up a response to your response and stopped.

It's very obvious to me that;

A. You and I are pretty much the only two still involved in this conversation, and if you want, we can continue this offline in some manner. But this sub-text really isn't serving any usefulness to the others in this thread. And as such, I'm willing to let it die and agree that we disagree...and as each post brings us closer to Godwin's law, I'd rather not tempt fate.

- and -

B. We have disperate ideas on how to businesses should be run and aren't likely to change each other's views without thomes of text. So, you run your business your way, I'll run my business my way. You bank heavily on the future, I play the future short. But I'm willing to bet here that neither of us is running a business of any size.....

I do want to bring up one final point though:

Your banking on future earnings is really aggressive.

If expenses grow faster than revenues, earnings will shrink. For a company that's growing rapidly, redirecting money to stimulate growth may make sense. But you're asserting that profits from the growth will be reflected in future earnings as revenues and expenses stabilize.

I have a few of issues with that. Growth in the television market is hardly a rapid or massive, there's a fairly finite amount of customers (with a slow growth rate of people moving in to the area), and they have thousands of viewing alternatives. You're also dealing with a finite market place. With out market expansion, you're not going to see a significant or sustainable growth in market share.

You've stated yourself previously that it's "content over flash". Well, if the content isn't there, any intial spike you may in this business will disspate in time. And again, you're not getting into this market first, there are other competitors coming with you. The same ones you have today, and there are still all those other alternatives.

Advertising revenue isn't likely to jump any massive amount now or in the future as it follows the ratings. It's very cyclical. And here again, after an initial spike, you're back to previous levels.

And In 3+ years, they will do nothing more than a lateral shift of their existing customer base from analog to digital, unless you're adding viewers from somewhere outside the existing market place, there's not really a massive potential for growth there.

.......I really am done now. Fire away.

Auf Wiedersehen
post #255 of 16058
Thread Starter 
Quote:


Originally posted by generationxwing
But I'm willing to bet here that neither of us is running a business of any size.....

You would laugh if you actually knew the truth.

In any case, I will drop it in this thread. I still would like to know why you think that Comcast is to blame and what they have to gain by doing it. Why don't you just PM me the response that you prepared.

You could also just email me comments @ theevilempire . com

Cheers,
Steve
post #256 of 16058
I can't remember how long ago it was when KCTS had their first public demos of the HDTV technology, but I remember going down to their studios for a look-see in the late 80's or early 90's. Who knew it would be a decade or more before we would finally get the technology in our own homes over cable?

I suppose it is fitting that KCTS is the first local channel to get on, since they were the first to be beating the drums for HD.
post #257 of 16058
anyone checked out the "Grizzly" Nature show on kcts-hd on now? the quality is horrible - any motion on screen is blurred (e.g., grass, fur on the bears) and all detail is non-existent. is this a bandwidth issue, or just a poor hd transfer? maybe things will get better later on tonight...
post #258 of 16058
Quote:


Originally posted by brente
anyone checked out the "Grizzly" Nature show on kcts-hd on now? the quality is horrible - any motion on screen is blurred (e.g., grass, fur on the bears) and all detail is non-existent. is this a bandwidth issue, or just a poor hd transfer? maybe things will get better later on tonight...

I agree but the previous show - Travels in Europe (or something) was nice.

BTW - the NE/NY Football game on now on ESPN-HD is fantastic!
post #259 of 16058
agree - the espnhd signal looks good (nicer if it was in 1080i, but it'll do...)

with the game I finally had a chance to compare a native 720p signal from espnhd on the moto 5100 (manually switched the output res) and an upconverted signal on my sony hd100 directv receiver (which won't output 720p - only 1080i) and found the 720p signal on espnhd on the moto box is clearer when viewed natively than upconverting to 1080i on my 9" crt front projector system. ok, this was kind of to be expected, but there is quite a bit of difference...

since the 5100 won't display a native signal automatically, this means having to manually flip the output resolution based on the programming content... kind of a bummer.

hopefully the moto 6xxx pvr box will have a native mode instead of having a fixed output resolution...
post #260 of 16058
Chefs A'Field had a lot of pixellation. It was as bad as the Mariners broadcasts at first. The sound level is really low, too. My ears are getting blasted switching back and forth between KCTS HD and ESPN HD.

Hopefully they're going to do some more fine tuning on KCTS HD.
post #261 of 16058
Quote:


anyone checked out the "Grizzly" Nature show on kcts-hd on now? the quality is horrible - any motion on screen is blurred (e.g., grass, fur on the bears) and all detail is non-existent. is this a bandwidth issue, or just a poor hd transfer? maybe things will get better later on tonight...

Nope. Not a bandwidth issue. I've watched about 10 min of the same program (9:25PM) and I agree, the picture is horrible. However, I can get the picture OTA and on cable. The PQ IS THE SAME!!!!. In fact, the sound between the two is in perfect sync. It's a headend problem. NOT COMCAST.

A/B switching proves the point!
post #262 of 16058
Watching OTA, I agree.

Must be Fuzzy Wuzzy HDTV caused by bad source.
post #263 of 16058
Is anyone getting audio breakup on the Lyle Lovett concert.
I'm getting lots of snap, crackle & pop. It wasn't on the bear program.
Picture is great!
post #264 of 16058
Quote:


Is anyone getting audio breakup on the Lyle Lovett concert. I'm getting lots of snap, crackle & pop. It wasn't on the bear program.
Picture is great!

OTA and COMCAST are the same. A/B switch on the audio, I hear pops in both. Again, a head end problem. Not Comcast.
post #265 of 16058
Quote:


Originally posted by brente
anyone checked out the "Grizzly" Nature show on kcts-hd on now? the quality is horrible - any motion on screen is blurred (e.g., grass, fur on the bears) and all detail is non-existent. is this a bandwidth issue, or just a poor hd transfer? maybe things will get better later on tonight...

I noticed before they re-aired it at 9PM that they said it was being aired in "Widescreen", while Soundstage was being aired in "High-Definition".

Would that explain the difference in quality between some of these programs?
post #266 of 16058
Quote:


Originally posted by jameskollar
OTA and COMCAST are the same. A/B switch on the audio, I hear pops in both. Again, a head end problem. Not Comcast.

Heard the popping here too on two different OTA HD tuners, DTC-100 and E86.
post #267 of 16058
Hey i'm in renton and my basic is only 14.30 then digital is another 11.99. I don't know if it's based on area for the price or what. But i think you guys are paying too much!! just thought i'd let you know!!
post #268 of 16058
One thing to note: all of the KCTS feeds occupy a single 19.2 mbps stream. Where a majopr network mayd dedicate the full 19.2mbps to a single feed, KCTS is splitting to do this multicast. Their plan, alledgedly, is to multicast during the day and go to a single HD feed during prime time.

We'll see if they actually deliver.
post #269 of 16058
yeah, i heard they were doing this for OTA, but wasn't sure whether they were doing this for the comcast HD feed or not...
post #270 of 16058
Quote:
Originally posted by danstone
If all you wanted to receive were the new KCTS feeds, then you could simply add the DCT5100 box to your Comcast account. The only additional charge you would pay (other than what you are currently paying) would be for the box rental. All the box would do in that case is allow you to receive the KCTS feeds (no digital program guide, no PPV access, etc.).

I currently have basic analog. If I wanted to get the 5100 for KCTS HD would Comcast need to run another cable with the digital signal into my house to hook up to it or is the digital signal transmitted along with the analog on the same cable?

If it's on the same cable would the 5100 output the regular analog basic channels through its RF output to my TV and output the HD signal through component to my projector or would I have to get a splitter to route the signal to the RF input to my TV and the RF input on the 5100 (TV receiving the analog and the 5100 receiving the digital)?

I would much rather prefer the digital signal to come into the house separately so I wouldn't have to degrade the analog picture quality to my TV with a splitter and so that the rest of the family could watch any channel on the TV while KCTS HD was being displayed on the projector (in another room of course).

Can someone please enlighten me? Thanks.

Brent
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