Binghamton / Elmira, NY - HDTV - Page 53

All the more reason for me to stay with the DNS from DirecTV.

Now if they would just supply an HD CW as DNS.
I do get the SD out of Washington.

Is time warner going to get ABC HD anytime soon or is that kinda the same deal as CBS?

According to the TWC website, WIVTHD Binghamton is carried.
http://www.timewarnercable.com/Custo...ashx?linkid=22

Not in Elmira, which is where the OP is located. We're waiting on WENY to go HD.

I fired off a letter to WBNG several months ago asking when they would be on TWC, and got a quick reply back suggesting that I buy an antenna. Sigh.

Yeah, I saw the location for the poster, but thought others might like the link.

Good luck with that. I've found data suggesting that WENY will go digital after the transition, but it will still be 480i.


That shows how stupid they are. Firing off a standard response without even looking at the address on your letterhead,

I live right next to the Binghamton airport. I pick up CBS great, ABC ok, FOX ok at times and NBC barely. Every one of them come in fuzzy except for CBS. I installed my new DTV box and I am only picking up CBS. My question is, since I can pick up the local channels a little bit with rabbit ears, how much better will they come in with a rooftop antenna? Also have all the stations gone digital yet? Why can I not pick up NBC, ABC or FOX with my DTV box? Thanks :-).

All full power local stations had to go digital awhile ago. For us that means ABC, CBS, Fox, and PBS. Those four are now broadcasting in HD. Since you said your analog reception with the indoor antenna is fuzzy (ghosting), that interferes with the digital reception. The tuner can't lock on due to multipathing. You should try an outdoor rooftop antenna. Do you have a fairly straight line of sight to the towers?

And, in case you didn't know it, the digital frequencies for the stations are ABC (4), CBS (7), Fox (8) and PBS (42). ABC will revert to 34 next year.

BTW, MyNetwork can be found on a sub-channel of ABC and there are two subchannels used by PBS.

I believe MyNetwork is found on the sub-channel for FOX.

That's true, I had a brain fart.

There are also rumors that The CW may show up as a subchannel to CBS.

Anyone know why WIVT broadcasts their pillar bars gray instead of black like everyone else when showing a 4x3 show on their digital channel? I personally like black and find the gray distracting.

JD Spencer: Funny you should mention it, I just got declined again by ABC for the waiver I submitted through DTV. I have tried a roof top antenna (several) and also several indoor antenna's pointed right to the towers and for the life of me cannot pick up ABC...now I ask what is it going to take for ABC to grant me a waiver??? Any suggestions??? Do I have to contact someone in particular to get this taken care of, I have had enough of this nonsense with ABC not granting a waiver.

It may be that WIVT has decided to insert the 4:3 picture within a 16:9 with gray. Other channels are either using black or are actually broadcasting a 4:3 signal to allow the user's TV to set the bar color.


Way back when, I had to pester WBNG to grant me a waiver. Maybe inviting the chief engineer out and off him dinner would help.

Just make sure he calls DIRECTV and grants the waiver before that, then destroy all incriminating evidence. Make Tony Soprano proud.

I don't think I am gonna offer the chief engineer dinner, I tried driving up to the station but I have no clue where its located. So now today I am gonna call see if I can get some direction on where we can go with this. The have to be aware that not everyone in this area can pick up there crappy signal. I mean I have no problem with Fox and WBNG and I got a waiver for NBC but stupid ABC keeps declining me.

It must be how WIVT is sending out their 4x3 signal. My TV and D* HD DVR are both set to use black pillar bars when needed. Maybe the WIVT chief engineer has a plasma and doesn't want the black bars to burn in.

Don't most or all of the former Clear Channel stations in New York use gray bars? I could swear that WSYR-DT has (had?) them, not sure about the others...

- Trip

Anyone know when verizon plans to roll out FIOS to the elmira, horseheads, big flats, corning area? I remember talking to a verizon guy a long time ago about it. He said that a lot of rich corning executives wanted it and that in order to bring it into corning area that they would have to go from elmira to corning since that is where the dial tone comes from.

Some updated news about the DTV "move"....I was talking to a person from the Syracuse area who told me about this move and they stated that the best thing to do was to find a campground in a zip code close to the city that you know would get local HD NYC stations. Then from there change the address by one (ex if the actual address is 168 Direct TV ave, change to 167 or 169). He stated that this worked like a charm. And then what he did was call up DTV during late hours to get there India call center, to switch his service address back to his billing address, and when he did so, he never lost the HD locals from the City. I found that hard to believe but he said it worked.

Now what i was thinking of doing was using a NYC address that I know is not a true address but the zip code is true, emailing DTV and then telling them to move me there...I would think this should work!?!?!?

Not sure if using a fake address would work or not. How close are you to Syracuse? They just got their locals launched in HD.

Well I am 60 miles south. Also, doesn't it go by zip code, not actual address??? If I use a NY address (that actually is legitimate, but its just not a house or apartment) shouldn't it not matter? This guy who was telling me about it is apparently using an address that may not be real and it worked for him, I think its all based on zip code to be honest with you...or is??? I am not 100 percent sure. He also stated to me, as I asked if I could do this move to the syracuse area that "If you switched to an address up here (syracuse) the HD Locals are spot beamed and from what I know it's a pain to get them without jacking ur National HD. Since the locals in HD come in off the Slimline 5 dish may be a pain..." I really have no clue what that means, but shouldn't I be ok with using this false address in NYC for the "move"

I don't want to say it'd be ok and then they question the validity of the address. I'm using a real address, but it's a relatives. I'm receiving the NYC locals off the NYC spotbeam, that's how I'm getting the CW in HD as well as all the other stations, like channel 13, 25, 55, etc.

I'd imagine that Syracuse's spotbeams are a lot easier to maintain given our location than the NYC spotbeam. Once I switched to the NYC locals, they got rid of my DNS stations.

Ok so basically I could use a syracuse address and get those HD locals then is what you are saying. I am not sure they would check the validity of an address but if you are suggesting it may be safe to try an address that is valid. Do your relatives ever get mail on your behalf from DTV?

Well I finally got digital channels to work. I bought a rooftop antenna from a guy on craigslist for $20. Hooked it up, pointed in the direction of the towers and BAM! I got FOX, ABC, CBS and UPN crystal clear. I can't get NBC in digital though. I get it in analog but its fuzzy. Anyone know what channel NBC is in Digital? Also, will an Preamp or Amplifier help me get it in better?

There is no NBC digital in Binghamton.

- Trip

bump!! im curious to find this out

Well, I asked the same question a few pages back, bumped it, and got the same crickets chirping response you got. If it is available, it's a well-kept secret.

Ha ... so of course after posting this, WBNG decided to show a Giants game last weekend instead of the Bills.

Well when you win Super Bowls, that may trump showing the Bills or the Jets. Looking at the upcoming schedule there might be conflicts on 10/26 where the Jets play the Chiefs at 1 on CBS and also the Bills play the Dolphins at 1 on CBS, most likely the Jets will not be shown. The of course on 11/13 the Jets play NE on the NFL Network...probably will need to go to a bar for that one.

Bills trumping Giants coverage was the reason I left TWC, but I was told by someone who has TWC that an alternate feed/channel was opened for the Bills game.