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post #451 of 3748
Was curious if anyone had any problems watching Invasion Wednesday night on ABC? I have TWC with the SA-8300HD and recorded it and there was a huge amount of breakup with audio squeals and picture corruption. Got really annoying. I also noticed quite a bit during Monday's episode of 24. Was quite a bit during the last half of the Survivor episode from Wednesday as well.

I'm not sure if I'm having a problem with the cable or the DVR or if it was just bad transmission. I am starting to think I should give the cable company a call, but I always seem to get the run-around from the techs when the show up at the house, so I'm hesitant to call before I rule out other possibilties.

I have checked the signal levels at my house via the 8300's diagnostic screens and they look ok, so unless the signal is dropping out due to something outside on the lines I'm not sure what the problem could be.

Thanks - Al
post #452 of 3748
Thanks for that info. I don't really do a lot of tinkering right now. But the CM3016 is mounted on a 20' mast that sways a bit in the wind. I'm lucky it hasn't blown over. I have a roof mount that I'll be using when the better weather arrives and the trees are in full bloom. I'll try the CM with it and then look into your suggestion. I have looked at the Winegard antennas. I got the CM because it was available locally.
post #453 of 3748
jdspencer,

I thought DirecTV did not offer local channels in our area yet. How does one go about getting a DNS waiver?
post #454 of 3748
My waivers have been in place for several years. Before the last round of FCC changes. The whole reason for waivers is so that subscribers that can't get a signal can get the networks. I'm talking analog signals here. I originally got waivers for ABC, NBC, and Fox. CBS denied. Then when I found out that our locals were starting up digital broadcasting, I got an antenna and a DirecTV HD receiver. Then CBS was going to have the Superbowl in HD and WBNG didn't have an HD signal. I emailed them to see if they would have HD by Superbowl time. They said no. Then DirecTV started up the network HD delivery. But, without the CBS waiver I would still be out of seeing the game in HD. I emailed WBNG a few more times asking about their HD plans and finally about DirecTV offering CBS HD. I guess to get me off their back, they relented and gave me a waiver.

The rules have changed, son you need to call DirecTV and have them submit waivers. Chances aren't all that good anymore. DirecTV has a eligibility page to see if you may get them. This is only for the SD versions however. Go here http://directvdnseligibility.decisio...dressEntry.asp
post #455 of 3748
jdspencer,

Thank-you for your response. I was afraid of that. I'll contact DirecTV re: their estimate of local broadcasting in Binghamton. I believe the last time I checked there were no plans!

P.S. I haven't been called "son" in a while...unfortunately...thanks!
post #456 of 3748
jdspencer,

just FYI....here's the latest from DirecTV re DNS....


Standard Distant Network Service
Network Affiliate Channel Status
ABC Eligible
CBS WBNG 12 Grade A (strong signal)
FOX Eligible
NBC Eligible
PBS Eligible

Digital (HD) Distant Network Service
Network Affiliate Status
ABC Eligible
CBS WBNG-DT Grade A (strong signal)
FOX Eligible
NBC Eligible




ELIGIBILITY EXPLANATION
On the left, you'll find whether you are eligible for DNS (Distant Network Service). If there are networks that list your status as eligible, you will be able to receive those networks with DNS.

If there are affiliates listed on the left with a status of Grade A or Grade B, you will need a waiver from the listed affiliate(s) before we can offer you that network. AFFILIATES RARELY GRANT A WAIVER FOR GRADE A SIGNALS. Much of the time, waiver requests for Grade B signals are not granted by affiliates either.

CURRENT CUSTOMERS
If you currently have DIRECTV® service, and are eligible for DNS and want to add this service to your programming package, call 1-800-531-5000. When you call, you'll also find out how to apply for a waiver. If eligible, a cost of $1.50 per month for each DNS channel will be added to your current programming package.

NEW CUSTOMERS
If you are interested in getting DIRECTV® service, it's easy to order online! After you install your DIRECTV® System, you can call the phone number above to add DNS service to your programming selections.

Under the Satellite Home Viewers Extension and Reauthorization Act (SHVERA) DIRECTV is permitted to transmit up to two analog feeds or one digital (HD) feed of LA or NY TV station network signals for private home viewing to persons who reside in unserved households, if they live in a market where DIRECTV does not provide local network programming. Private home viewing is defined as viewing, for private use in a household by means of satellite reception equipment which is operated by an individual in that household and which serves only that household. An unserved household is defined in the statute as one that receives less than a Grade B signal from their local TV stations. SHVERA requires that we use the Individual Location Longley-Rice (ILLR) model to determine whether a customer resides in an unserved household. If you are predicted to receive a Grade B or better signal, you may still request waivers from your local stations. However, past history has shown that the majority of these waiver requests are not granted. DIRECTV and the Cyclone Design logo are registered trademarks of DIRECTV, Inc.
post #457 of 3748
Sorry about that typo. I'll leave it there so others won't get confused about your response.

Since our DMA is 156, it will be a long time before we get our locals, if ever. Even if we do, I probably won't get them and stay with the DNS and OTA (hopefully, ours will be HD in the not too distant future). But, the rules could change again and DNS might go away.

Then if TWC ever gets a descent HD lineup, I might switch. But, only if their DVR is better than my DirecTV DVRs w/TiVo.

Good luck with the waivers.
post #458 of 3748
jdspencer,

Just curious, any idea how many members are in this area?
post #459 of 3748
I have no idea how many members are from the "Greater Binghamton" area.
post #460 of 3748
Thank-you.
post #461 of 3748
An update about my situation. In preparation of relocating my antenna to the roof of the house, I attached it to the tripod mount and left it on the deck. Well, lo and behold I was able to get a good signal for ch 8 (Fox) and they indeed are broadcasting an HD signal. It looks pretty good too! I think part of my more recent problem was that the coax connection at the antenna had some corrosion and this was blocking the preamp from getting power. I lost ch 4 as well recently. I took the preamp out of the system and now get signal from ch 4 (ABC) and the above ch 8. I also see a slight signal for ch 7 (CBS) and ch 42 (PBS). Hopefully, once the antenna is above roofline, the receiver (HR10-250) will be able to lock on. I'll be trying with the CM3016 and if I need to, switch to something else.
post #462 of 3748
Yes, Fox 40 HD OTA is quite nice. However, the FOX 40 logo on HD has to be turned down, it is ridiculously bright and annoying. (I sent an email to them about it, we'll see what happens).
post #463 of 3748
I hate the sizes of LOGO'S do you know they look huge on a 70" Sony.
funny some of the HD channel turn them off during the shows
HBOHD SHOHD HDMOV DCSHD and others
I wish all the channels would reduce or turn them off during programming.
It's distracting
post #464 of 3748
Okay, now that we had some good weather I decided to move the tripod mount to the roof. From my previous post youi can see that with the tripod sitting on my deck I was getting some good signals for ch 4 (mid 60's) and ch 8 (low to mid 50's), with blips for 7 and 42. The first attached photo is pointing in the direction it was located. The second photo shows it located on the roof pointing in the same general direction. However, I no longer get a good signal for ch 8, ch 4 is still quite good (saw a peak at 70). Since it is now on the roof, it isn't as convenient to adjust. I used my two cordless handsets in intercom mode to listen to the tones from the HR10-250. This worked quite well, but the tones didn't change an awful lot.

My question is why would I lose signal when the antenna is now higher and not pointing through trees? How could I get more multipath now? I'm only a little over 9 miles from the towers on the other side of that hill.
LL
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post #465 of 3748
hehe, you shouldnt complain about the logo in chicago, they changed it to FOXCHICAGO

the fox40 logo looks pretty small actually.
almost the same size as the regular FOX logo

FOX40
http://www.rcsnetwork.com/images/0208-210831.jpg

FOX (not 40)
http://www.rcsnetwork.com/images/1114-234357.jpg
post #466 of 3748
At least with a 16:9 display the logo is further in the corner.
post #467 of 3748
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enrico Ng View Post

hehe, you shouldnt complain about the logo in chicago, they changed it to FOXCHICAGO

the fox40 logo looks pretty small actually.
almost the same size as the regular FOX logo

FOX40
http://www.rcsnetwork.com/images/0208-210831.jpg

FOX (not 40)
http://www.rcsnetwork.com/images/1114-234357.jpg

Its not the size that matters

THE HD LOGO IS TOO BRIGHT, AND MOSTLY NON-SEE THROUGH. My eyes (and plasma) really don't appreciate the abuse...
post #468 of 3748
Quote:
Originally Posted by hiperco View Post

Its not the size that matters

THE HD LOGO IS TOO BRIGHT, AND MOSTLY NON-SEE THROUGH. My eyes (and plasma) really don't appreciate the abuse...

hmm, weird, it really doesnt look too bright to me.
it should be see thru though.

I'm just watching on my computer screen (Dell 2005FPW 20" LCD)
could your contrast be too high?

Here's one of what they do in chicago.
http://www.rcsnetwork.com/images/c3.jpg

For a couple weeks they just had FOXCHICAGO in the same font as the regular "FOX" logo. That really sucked.
post #469 of 3748
Did you really need the preamp? How far are you from the Towers. When you say "trying to find the best spot on the roof", exactly what were you looking for? Asthetics?
post #470 of 3748
Where did you buy the antenna? Locally or online?
I may not need the preamp since it won't be split for multiple TVs and will only be used for digital.
post #471 of 3748
I replied to this in the other forum, so I won't repeat it here.
But thanks for the info there. For those that need to know which forum.
Go here. http://www.rochesterhdtv.com/viewtop...=asc&start=150
post #472 of 3748
Quote:
Originally Posted by awdorrin View Post

Was curious if anyone had any problems watching Invasion Wednesday night on ABC? I have TWC with the SA-8300HD and recorded it and there was a huge amount of breakup with audio squeals and picture corruption. Got really annoying. I also noticed quite a bit during Monday's episode of 24. Was quite a bit during the last half of the Survivor episode from Wednesday as well.

I'm not sure if I'm having a problem with the cable or the DVR or if it was just bad transmission. I am starting to think I should give the cable company a call, but I always seem to get the run-around from the techs when the show up at the house, so I'm hesitant to call before I rule out other possibilties.

I have checked the signal levels at my house via the 8300's diagnostic screens and they look ok, so unless the signal is dropping out due to something outside on the lines I'm not sure what the problem could be.

Thanks - Al


I'm getting the same BS crap it's driving me nuts, for weeks now
post #473 of 3748
A month or so back there was a rumor posted that WBNG would be broadcasting HDTV by the middle of April. Anyone heard anything more on this, is it only a rumor?
post #474 of 3748
Rumors are only rumors until they are proven one way or the other.
The middle of April is here now, but, don't hold your breath.
post #475 of 3748
I'm asking all members here from the Greater Binghamton Area to send an email to WBNG asking when HD will be available.

wbng@wbngtv.com
post #476 of 3748
There are reports that WBNG will be adding a DTV subchannel for a CW Network feed:

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/pr...d=20060424cw02
post #477 of 3748
Now that's interesting. So that would mean that the subchannel that is UPN on our Fox affiliate will become an independent. I guess that means that The WB has more of a say than UPN for which one gets CW in an area. Currently our WB is cable only and UPN is low power.
post #478 of 3748
Well here is the response I recieved from WBNG after inquiring about HDTV availability.
Quote:
At this point there are no plans to go HD here.
As much as I would like to do it our present owners do not want
to because there is no FCC regulation that says we have to.
Hopefully they will realize that every channel in our market is HD and we will need to
do it for that reason. I also hope when and if the new owners come into play they will
want to do HDTV

Chief Engineer
WBNG TV
Michael Calkins
post #479 of 3748
I have received exactly the same response late last night.
post #480 of 3748
Add me to that list. Same response. In fact, it was in the form of a Word document. So they send out a standard responses now. What a sad state for this TV station in the Greater Binghamton Area.

I would say it is time to send snail mail to the ownership.

I send a second email asking about the CW on a subchannel mentioned in the link to thefutoncritic above.
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