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post #9631 of 10034
I have a question. I have had my antenna mounted outside for a few years now. When I installed it, everything worked great and signal breakups were few and far between on most of the major channels - with the exception of KING5 on sunny clear days - I never did figure that out. Anyhow, lately several of my channels have started to degrade in signal quality. KOMO4 breaks up a lot, KING5 isn't watchable most of the time, and I have to have the antenna pointed almost directly at channel 13 to pick it up. As far as trees, buildings, and other obstacles, nothing has changed since I installed.
When I installed everything, I used fairly decent (I think) coax connectors, but I didn't take any special precaution to guard against moisture. I also did not seek out a good balun, I just picked up a $5 one from RS. It worked fine for several years.
I'm wondering if replacing my connections, balun, and maybe even my coax cable would improve my signal? Can anyone suggest good connectors that I should use? For what it's worth, I do have a compression connector tool. Also, what is a good balun? Where can I get one?

Thanks for any info!

James

It's been a while since I have posted here!
post #9632 of 10034
James
Well, hate to be the first to break it to ya, but things have not been the same since you installed it. Difference is trees get bigger, and you have a few around. It's possible the balun and connections are flaky, so it wouldn't hurt to replace them and seal them well this time. Cable should be okay as long as it's not been damaged, like banged on by a branch, squashed or has had a staple through it. You'll know about the cable when you strip the ends for a new connector. If the foil is nice and shiny, and the copper center clean, you're good. If the copper is brown or black, or the aluminum foil looks milky white instead of shiny, start cutting the end of in 1/2 inch snips until you get good color again.
I seal my connector at the balun with a tight wrap of electrical tape, and then when the boot is on, tape it over again right up to the end where the two antenna wires come out. The very end I seal with GE silicone II. I'll enclose a picture. I also completely cover the two screws where the balun connects to the antenna, after it's connected, of course. The ziptie is to keep the tape from coming undone over time from the Sun. It's overkill, I know, but I hate callbacks. Whenever I've had to undo one of my setups, the connections are always clean.

I still think your biggest problem is the trees. Your signal could actually have been very marginal all along, but if the tuner locks on, you could get great numbers. And of course the picture looks fine. Only a meter can really see how ugly it is. It's to the point where I just don't do installs anymore that are in the trees, if it looks tough. They always seem to call me back after 3 to 5 years, and most of the time it's just too far gone. I would rather pass on a job if I know the customer is going to be unhappy later. I have done surveys up where you are, and a few installs. It's not a slam dunk. I forgot what antenna you had, but the trees like a yagi style, not a bow tie style. Also, you might try moving it to a different location. Only 8" or so is enough to make a difference. And of course a good preamp.
Dan
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post #9633 of 10034
Keep an eye out for KWPX 33.4. ION stations in two other markets have lit up their dot 4 sub-channel but are only simulcasting one of their other subs for now.
post #9634 of 10034
For several days, I was unable to get a usable signal from 7.1 and 7.2, but today it looks fine again. It's almost line-of-sight except for some trees several hundred feet from my location (Eagledale, Bainbridge Island). Has anything changed at the station? The other signals from Queen Anne have been good all along.
post #9635 of 10034
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Originally Posted by rdvegas View Post

Keep an eye out for KWPX 33.4. ION stations in two other markets have lit up their dot 4 sub-channel but are only simulcasting one of their other subs for now.
I saw this on yesterday; it was carrying "Ion Life" but ID'd as "Shop TV". So that's great that we are getting another shopping channel eek.gif.

Val
post #9636 of 10034
I've been trying to determine whether or not receiving OTA digital is viable where I live. I purchased an RCA ANT751R antenna, put it on the roof and was only able to receive KCPQ, KCTS and KOMO (along with several other bible channels). I tried sticking the antenna on a 7 foot mast on my chimney, but it made no difference. I also bought (and then returned) an inline amplifier from Radio Shack, but it made absolutely no difference. Before I experiment with a larger or different antenna, I thought I'd post here to see if I'm just trying to do something that isn't possible.

We live the Edmonds Bowl area and here's the TVFool link: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3dcc49481e58b237 The cross streets are 8th Ave N and Brookmere Drive.

Does anyone have any words of wisdom here? I submitted a request for help to Solid Signal, and the replied with a recommendation of a Wingard HD-1080, which I'm doubtful of.

I will be mounting to the chimney and don't really care how big the antenna is, I just want something to work or not bother with this project any longer.

Thanks!

Joe
post #9637 of 10034
I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this...

I have an OTA receiver in one room of my house (I live in Fremont btw). According to the Windows 7 Media Center OTA signal strength scanner, I get Kiro (7.1) at full strength (5/5 bars). However, this weekend when I tried to tune to KIRO to watch a football game, I got the "There's no TV signal" message from Media Center. I immediately checked the OTA signal strength meter, and it still said that it was coming in at full strength. For the record, I get all the standard channels at full strength (4.x, 5.x, 7.x, 9.x, etc., except 13.1 which I get from 22.2).

I've noticed this before on other channels (like 13 and 5): if there's an NFL game on, I can't get reception. If there's no game on, the channel comes in just fine.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it almost seems like they're purposefully blocking out the games on OTA. Or am I just missing something simple?
post #9638 of 10034
I previously mentioned (post 9634) the same issue with KIRO and although it came back, it was gone for a while yesterday (I can receive the station now). Unfortunately I do not have any tuners which will report actual signal strength and only get indications based on bit error rate, which is zero when the tuner is unable to acquire a signal,

I don't see any thing that KIRO would have anything to gain (quite the converse) by blocking OTA reception. The FCC would not be amused by this.
post #9639 of 10034
I will do some more experimenting to see what's going on. KIRO isn't the only station I have this problem with, however. At least I'm not alone in finding that the stations occasionally go blank. As I mentioned, the weird part is that the signal meter is reporting the station at full strength.
post #9640 of 10034
KIRO operates on both RF39 and RF51. RF51 is at lower power and from West Tiger Mountain. RF51 was added somewhat recently.

Some receivers are funky, and replace the first occurrence of a station with the second occurrence of the station, even though the second occurrence may not be coming in strong.

It sounds like one of your receivers is trying to tune in RF51. If you can rescan RF39, that should help.

You're likely outside of the coverage area of RF51, but conditions were right for 51 when you scanned last time.
post #9641 of 10034
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Originally Posted by marvac View Post

I've been trying to determine whether or not receiving OTA digital is viable where I live. I purchased an RCA ANT751R antenna, put it on the roof and was only able to receive KCPQ, KCTS and KOMO (along with several other bible channels) [...]

We live the Edmonds Bowl area [...]

Hi Joe! I live about a mile from there and use that antenna, with 54 +/- stations. However, I'm above the bowl.

You should also be able to get KIRO-TV, as it's in the same place as KOMO. Is that one coming in?

Here's something to try-- I do not know if this will work, but if adjusting the direction of your antenna is not a huge task, maybe give it a go:

The following stations have low power re-transmitters ("translators") in Everett. Although they're low power, you might be within view of them:
KIRO
KZJO

KSTW has a low power translator in Port Townsend.

You also may be able to get KVOS, KBCB and some canadian choices, pointing toward Victoria.

If any of those work, you may want to consider a rotor for your antenna!
post #9642 of 10034
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try pointing it towards Everett and Port Townsend hadn't thought about doing that. I did try pointing it towards Victoria and got KVOS. I'm wondering if a giant antenna might help my situation.
post #9643 of 10034
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Originally Posted by marvac View Post

I'm wondering if a giant antenna might help my situation.

The giant antennas are usually for when you have interest in "low-band VHF" stations (RF2 - RF6). The lowest frequency used is RF8, a low powered religious broadcaster from Capitol Hill. KCTS is RF9.

If you're able to get a hint of those Everett and Port Townsend translators, then a more directional (and likely bigger) Hi-VHF/UHF antenna might be good! That is, if you need them! :-)
post #9644 of 10034
I’ve fixed the Kiro problem a using the below solution.
http://www.sevenforums.com/media-center/200210-problem-tuning-particular-channel.html

Go into "guide"–"edit channel" "edit sources" and un-check the sources that are not the "real" channel.
You will notice that for the sources in media center, it probably has both 39 and 26 listed.

This week I’m also having problems with KCTS 9 in Seattle. It comes in great with every other OTA digital tuner in my house but now Windows Media Center “says no signal”. It doesn’t help to try to manually add it. The Signal meter also shows no signal strength yet when I switch to my Sony tv tuner there’s KCTS 9 with full signal bars. It pretty frustrating since I live on a hill with great line of sight and never have weak signal problems. Even my 2005 Sony HDD-250 tunes into channel 9 just fine.
post #9645 of 10034
Hello helpful people out there!

I'm a newbie to the world of antennas and would be very grateful for some advice. I've been relying on Comcast's most basic package (about $15 per month) for several years for the few basic channels I watch, but I need to reduce my ongoing bills and would like to cut the cord with Comcast. I have tried one of the small indoor antennas - the RCA ANT1650R - and while it seems to initially pick up a clear picture on all the channels I care about, the signal keeps dropping in the middle of trying to watch something (often enough to make some channels, like CBS and PBS, unwatchable). I live in Seattle on 49th Ave S between Hudson and Dawson (zip code 98118) in a one story home (probably only 20ft from the ground to the roof). Antennaweb.org shows I need to get an antenna that can handle Yellow, Light Green, and Blue signals (the channels I want to be able to get are: ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, and Fox.) Does anyone have a suggestion for the best choice of antenna for my situation. I would much prefer either an indoor antenna or medium size attic antenna since I can't afford to pay someone to install it on my roof for me and I don't have very good balance to be able to go up there and do it myself. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Eli
post #9646 of 10034
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Originally Posted by trenda View Post

This week I’m also having problems with KCTS 9 in Seattle. It comes in great with every other OTA digital tuner in my house but now Windows Media Center “says no signal”. It doesn’t help to try to manually add it. The Signal meter also shows no signal strength yet when I switch to my Sony tv tuner there’s KCTS 9 with full signal bars. It pretty frustrating since I live on a hill with great line of sight and never have weak signal problems. Even my 2005 Sony HDD-250 tunes into channel 9 just fine.

If you have a pre-amp or a distribution amp try an attenuator (like a splitter if you have one handy) just before your MCE tuner. Some PC tuners are notorious for not dealing well with strong signals from FM or even the new wireless spectrum that's comming on line as we speak (old UHF channels 52-69). In my area I have a very strong wireless signal on old channel 63 and I use a 9db attenuator for my ATI tuners (I do have a 17db high input pre-amp at the antenna). My TV on the other hand does not need one.

Leszek
post #9647 of 10034
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Originally Posted by marvac View Post

I've been trying to determine whether or not receiving OTA digital is viable where I live. I purchased an RCA ANT751R antenna, put it on the roof and was only able to receive KCPQ, KCTS and KOMO (along with several other bible channels). I tried sticking the antenna on a 7 foot mast on my chimney, but it made no difference. I also bought (and then returned) an inline amplifier from Radio Shack, but it made absolutely no difference. Before I experiment with a larger or different antenna, I thought I'd post here to see if I'm just trying to do something that isn't possible.
We live the Edmonds Bowl area and here's the TVFool link: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3dcc49481e58b237 The cross streets are 8th Ave N and Brookmere Drive.
Does anyone have any words of wisdom here? I submitted a request for help to Solid Signal, and the replied with a recommendation of a Wingard HD-1080, which I'm doubtful of.
I will be mounting to the chimney and don't really care how big the antenna is, I just want something to work or not bother with this project any longer.
Thanks!
Joe

Joe
You are really in a bowl. Your tuner is doing a really good job for what little you're getting. Normally a larger antenna might help, but I'm skeptical.
There's a long grind uphill from where you are to about NW 195th in Richmond Beach area, about three miles through a lot of trees before you get a clean shot at QA Hill. If you were to get better reception with a larger antenna now, I would bet in the future it would go away. I have some customers that were working fair ten years ago, along a similar path, just over the county line, that are completely gone now, and it's not the antenna, I checked. The signal gets really chopped up. And when the wind moves all those branches even a little, it just jumps all over the scope. If you want to try, use a Rat Shack Antennacraft HBU33. When you are fighting trees, a yagi works better. If it doesn't work better, then you can return it. Ch 13, 20 and 28 will come in fine from there, it's more to the west, nothing in the way.
For aiming, point it right down the same direction as 8th, maybe just a hair to the east.
Let us know what happens.
Dan
post #9648 of 10034
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Originally Posted by EliAdams View Post

Hello helpful people out there!
I'm a newbie to the world of antennas and would be very grateful for some advice. I've been relying on Comcast's most basic package (about $15 per month) for several years for the few basic channels I watch, but I need to reduce my ongoing bills and would like to cut the cord with Comcast. I have tried one of the small indoor antennas - the RCA ANT1650R - and while it seems to initially pick up a clear picture on all the channels I care about, the signal keeps dropping in the middle of trying to watch something (often enough to make some channels, like CBS and PBS, unwatchable). I live in Seattle on 49th Ave S between Hudson and Dawson (zip code 98118) in a one story home (probably only 20ft from the ground to the roof). Antennaweb.org shows I need to get an antenna that can handle Yellow, Light Green, and Blue signals (the channels I want to be able to get are: ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, and Fox.) Does anyone have a suggestion for the best choice of antenna for my situation. I would much prefer either an indoor antenna or medium size attic antenna since I can't afford to pay someone to install it on my roof for me and I don't have very good balance to be able to go up there and do it myself. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Eli

Eli
You're in a good spot. The problem is the signals are pretty strong there as well. An outdoor antenna is really what you need. Doesn't have to be big or high, just above the roof a bit and pointing towards downtown. If you can get someone to throw it up there, and where your neighbors house to the north or west isn't too much in the way, it should work. The little RatShack HBU22 would work fine.
For indoors, you have a problem. The signal is so strong there it just bounces around in the room, and tends to cancel itself a bit. It makes trying to find one spot difficult. And if the antenna has an amplifier built in, it's just makes it worse. Ideally, if you can get the antenna near a window that faces towards downtown, northwest, you have a better chance. RatShack has some flat panel antennas that are not amplified you could hang in a window or on a wall that might work. At least if they don't, they will take them back. An attic will just make it worse.
Dan
post #9649 of 10034
Hello everyone,

I currently use QAM tuning for my MythTV setup, but I am worried that eventually Comcast will encrypt the HD locals rendering my QAM tuner moot. I wanted to consider OTA as the only stations I most care about recording from are HD locals. Below is my tvfool information - which I think looks pretty good.

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3dc84f0876f5ebaa

I live around a fair amount of trees, so that concerns me a bit. I'm by Ballinger and Bothell Way. Is there an indoor antenna that would work? I've tried an old directional antenna The same as or similar to a Philips PHDTV1, and one of the RCA ANT1650R without the amplification. I never could find a spot that got all the channels with either one. The Terk seemed to get fairly close if I recall. Is there an antenna solution that will work for me? It would be wonderful if an indoor antenna would work. I won't be installing one outside myself, but I'd be open to having it installed if it had a good chance of working. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

I primarily care about 4.1, 5.1, 7.1, 9.1, 11.1 and 13.1. 16.1 would be good to have.
post #9650 of 10034
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Originally Posted by newlinux View Post

Hello everyone,
I currently use QAM tuning for my MythTV setup, but I am worried that eventually Comcast will encrypt the HD locals rendering my QAM tuner moot. I wanted to consider OTA as the only stations I most care about recording from are HD locals. Below is my tvfool information - which I think looks pretty good.
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3dc84f0876f5ebaa
I live around a fair amount of trees, so that concerns me a bit. I'm by Ballinger and Bothell Way. Is there an indoor antenna that would work? I've tried an old directional antenna The same as or similar to a Philips PHDTV1, and one of the RCA ANT1650R without the amplification. I never could find a spot that got all the channels with either one. The Terk seemed to get fairly close if I recall. Is there an antenna solution that will work for me? It would be wonderful if an indoor antenna would work. I won't be installing one outside myself, but I'd be open to having it installed if it had a good chance of working. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
I primarily care about 4.1, 5.1, 7.1, 9.1, 11.1 and 13.1. 16.1 would be good to have.


newlinux
If you were right at the intersection of Ballinger and Bothell Way, all those channels would work except ch13 from Bremerton. It would come in on ch22 though, or the new translator. However, going up Ballinger the hill gets in the way, fast. If your west or north of the shopping center, past 178th, the trees are really thick, and you're in the canyon. An indoor might work, but you would need to be near a window that faces southwest. As to what works best, trial and error are going to be the only way to know. Keep your receipts for returns.
Dan
post #9651 of 10034
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post #9652 of 10034
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanKurts View Post

newlinux
If you were right at the intersection of Ballinger and Bothell Way, all those channels would work except ch13 from Bremerton. It would come in on ch22 though, or the new translator. However, going up Ballinger the hill gets in the way, fast. If your west or north of the shopping center, past 178th, the trees are really thick, and you're in the canyon. An indoor might work, but you would need to be near a window that faces southwest. As to what works best, trial and error are going to be the only way to know. Keep your receipts for returns.
Dan

Thanks for your help. I am just north of the shopping center, on 178th. I tried one window facing southwest with one of the antennas I have without sufficient results. I'll try the other window just to see. I really want pretty reliable transmission. Do you think if I put up a decent outdoor antenna I'd get that, even with the trees?
post #9653 of 10034
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanKurts View Post

Joe
You are really in a bowl. Your tuner is doing a really good job for what little you're getting. Normally a larger antenna might help, but I'm skeptical.
There's a long grind uphill from where you are to about NW 195th in Richmond Beach area, about three miles through a lot of trees before you get a clean shot at QA Hill. If you were to get better reception with a larger antenna now, I would bet in the future it would go away. I have some customers that were working fair ten years ago, along a similar path, just over the county line, that are completely gone now, and it's not the antenna, I checked. The signal gets really chopped up. And when the wind moves all those branches even a little, it just jumps all over the scope. If you want to try, use a Rat Shack Antennacraft HBU33. When you are fighting trees, a yagi works better. If it doesn't work better, then you can return it. Ch 13, 20 and 28 will come in fine from there, it's more to the west, nothing in the way.
For aiming, point it right down the same direction as 8th, maybe just a hair to the east.
Let us know what happens.
Dan

Thanks for the help, Dan, I really appreciate it. I will go ahead and give the HBU33 a try and report on my results. Sounds like it's going to be an uphill battle!

Joe
post #9654 of 10034
Hello all,

I live in shoreline, and just bought a 65gt50 panny plasma.
I live on top of the hill and get great reception. I have an old but good rooftop antenna.
My signal strength is all green on antennaweb.

My problem is that I've been reading the scaler in the particular panny is not great at upscaling a 720p signal to 1080.

The 1080i stations look fabulous on the tv. However all the 720p stations have a watercolor, loss of resolution look. The colors are ok, just the resolution / sharpness is not great.

Is anybody else noticing this?
I'm wondering if it's my tv or are the 720p stations really bad in seattle?

thanks
post #9655 of 10034
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Originally Posted by sandman123 View Post

Hello all,

I live in shoreline, and just bought a 65gt50 panny plasma.
I live on top of the hill and get great reception. I have an old but good rooftop antenna.
My signal strength is all green on antennaweb.

My problem is that I've been reading the scaler in the particular panny is not great at upscaling a 720p signal to 1080.

The 1080i stations look fabulous on the tv. However all the 720p stations have a watercolor, loss of resolution look. The colors are ok, just the resolution / sharpness is not great.

Is anybody else noticing this?
I'm wondering if it's my tv or are the 720p stations really bad in seattle?

thanks

sandman123
The TV stations are fine.
I have setup some of the GT and VT ones, and found that some of the "features" are not that swift for regular viewing, ie on an antenna. Cable and satellite have a lot more compression and/or noise and assorted wierdness. That's where these band-aid options can help, but can make things worse on a good picture from an antenna or DVD. At this early hour I can't remember the exact setting, or settings, but they can make a big change. There are several reviews on the higer end models of the Panasonic which go into more detail on what they used for testing and what they turned off. The Custom Mode gives you the most options for picture control, usually. Each model seems to differ a bit on which Mode gives the most adjustments. Do some searching on the Home Theater Magazine reviews, or Sound & Vision. There are some other sites that go into the setups as well, just can't remember them right now.
What is great about the set is you can make some settings for viewing the antenna input, and different ones for the Bluray. Just change the Mode in the Menu to suit.
In any case, the other thing you might want to do to tweak it is get the Spears and Munsil DVD to help set it up. It's easy to over do some of the settings on a bigger plasma, and it's tough trying to get it right watching live TV. It will never get the eye popping brightness of an LED set, but can produce far better color and pictures than most others, specially when set up right.
Use the reviews to help explain what the features actually do, in laymens terms, and the setup DVD to give the picture or test pattern and explain what you are trying to do for that feature. It also has audio setup material , too, that is great at sorting room problems
I. have a ten year old Panasonic 50" and 11 year old Pansonic 42". Being an old tech, I'm kind of fussy about the picture, and have been real happy with mine. (I do admit to wishing I had purchased a Kuro when I had the chance, but the Panasonics now are almost as good, just waiting for my old guys to quit) I find the new sets are set on torch mode out of the box, so I turn them down right away before the customer gets to see it. After it gets set up, then I put some content on and do final adjustments. Showing them what it can do with the test DVD, which has demo material shot in various resolutions, they can really get an appreciation for the TV's capability. I ususally come back after a few weeks or so and give it another tweak, and the customers are very happy with the picture.
Be patient and take the time to go through the test disc. You will find that it will not only set the basic parameters, but give you the eye for knowing what tweaks to do when you get some wierd content.
You have a great TV, and once you learn what it can really do, you will find yourself noticing how really lousy most of the sets out there are setup, or perform poorly when you try to tweak them. I see it almost daily, and smile when I sit down to watch my old Panasonics.
Let us know what you end up finding clears up the fuzzies.
Dan
post #9656 of 10034
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Originally Posted by newlinux View Post

Thanks for your help. I am just north of the shopping center, on 178th. I tried one window facing southwest with one of the antennas I have without sufficient results. I'll try the other window just to see. I really want pretty reliable transmission. Do you think if I put up a decent outdoor antenna I'd get that, even with the trees?

newlinux
Really hard to tell. I have done many surveys in and around the canyon of Ballinger, and only done two antennas, one of which I tried to talk him out of doing it. Most of the time it's just too inconsistent and unreliable. And as mentioned before, trees have this thing about getting bigger and making things worse. Add in some wind and they move around causing more trouble.
If you can find a good spot in a window that's consistent, then there might be a chance. Patience is the key in testing, and try several flavotrs of indoor antennas. Amplified types won't help much. You actually have a fair amount of signal around you, it's just all chopped up by the trees.
Dan
post #9657 of 10034
Hello,
I picked up a Indoor antenna today(Terk Technology HDTVi), and it works surprisingly well so long as the Cats dont love up to it.
I can get all the channels i want with a little adjustment, oddly, to get channel 13 to come in i have to point or little antenna 90* CCW from the tower to get it to come in... (just need the sea hawks games this weekend)

However i would like to do long term setup in the attic or rooftop off the chimney. (to prevent the cats, and reduce adjustments for each channel)

The most desired is Fox in HD for football games(so want 13 not 22). PBS, then the local Seattle networks for news etc... (we don't watch that much TV)

The down side is we do have a lot of trees around us, but luckily we are the top of a hill with ~1acre opening. I've been looking at a RCA751, winegard 7649 or 8200. would the later help any? or just massive overkill? attic? roof? amp or preamp of any sort? could i get any channels from further north?

and of course http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3dc84ff77224ebc2


Much thanks! now if i could just get my internet the same way, cheap , great quality, and without comcast....

-Levi
post #9658 of 10034
KCPQ's main, original transmitter is out on Bremerton and operates on channel 13. Their channel 22 UHF translator should be the same broadcast. The sub-channel on KXJO was the standard def broadcast, but I don't know if they're still running it.
post #9659 of 10034
Quote:
Originally Posted by saber63 View Post

Hello,
I picked up a Indoor antenna today(Terk Technology HDTVi), and it works surprisingly well so long as the Cats dont love up to it.
I can get all the channels i want with a little adjustment, oddly, to get channel 13 to come in i have to point or little antenna 90* CCW from the tower to get it to come in... (just need the sea hawks games this weekend)

However i would like to do long term setup in the attic or rooftop off the chimney. (to prevent the cats, and reduce adjustments for each channel)

The most desired is Fox in HD for football games(so want 13 not 22). PBS, then the local Seattle networks for news etc... (we don't watch that much TV)

The down side is we do have a lot of trees around us, but luckily we are the top of a hill with ~1acre opening. I've been looking at a RCA751, winegard 7649 or 8200. would the later help any? or just massive overkill? attic? roof? amp or preamp of any sort? could i get any channels from further north?

and of course http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3dc84ff77224ebc2


Much thanks! now if i could just get my internet the same way, cheap , great quality, and without comcast....

-Levi

Levi
What are your nearest cross streets?
Dan
post #9660 of 10034
ProjectSHO89

I thought something was wrong last Sunday while trying to watch the ball game. I finally gave up on 13 and switched it to 22. The picture would go completely blank and the TV would say no signal. The only way to get it back would be to switch to another channel and then back. Then it would be fine for another five minutes or so. I checked my SDHomerun meter and it would give all green and then suddenly go to zero and the picture would blank out.
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