Originally Posted by seatacboy
TV Fool is not always exactly right. Something I noticed when I switched to "Pending Applications Included - Digital Only", I noticed that CBUT/43, CIVI/17 and CBUFT/26 are also at the exact same 338 degree coordinates and virtually the exact distance in miles, yet the stated NM and power for CBUT, CIVI and CBUFT are much lower than for CHAN, CIVT, and CHNM. What quality of signal are you receiving on CBUT/43, CIVI/17 and CBUFT/26?
Thinking about the mountains and hills in the San Juan Islands as well as along Chuckanut Mountain, I wonder if CHAN/CIVT/CHNM just manage to "squeak through" those geographic obstacles, while CKVU just happens to be blocked by a mountain or hill in the way. Those Mount Seymour-area transmitters are spread a couple of hundred metres apart, and that extremely miniscule distance in coordinate angle might be making the difference between getting a "solid signal" and "no signal" at your precise receiving-antenna location.
TV Fool also makes it abundantly clear that CHEK/49 and CHNU/21 are dramatically blocked by the hilly/mountainous local geography. I presume you have NOT received those stations at all.
I was also curious: what reception are you receiving on the "major league" Seattle transmitters - or on KIRO's Mount Vernon repeater at RF 28?
Yeah, I know that Tvfool is a rough estimate of the signal in that specific location (when I use the pin on the map). I was hoping that it would be more accurate as CKVU shows up as LOS, and KWPX is 2EDGE. However if I raise my antenna (in theory per Tvfool) to a few feet higher (eg 15 feet), then KWPX shows up as LOS and signal at about +46 NM and overtakes CKVU at +21 NM! Geez, what a difference, so I have to keep my antenna low so I dont catch KWPX from the backside with its LOS.
Yeah, I noticed that CBUT/CIVI/CBUFT and the other BC stations seem listed at the same exact distance away. Alas and strange! I just figured it was because they are just towers a several meters apart on Mt Seymour. Oh well. But now you say there are several hundred metres apart, so I guess that would explain the difference in signals for those various stations.
So, I guess it's plausible that the tower for CKVU is slightly lower than the rest, so it gets just blocked by those mountains south of Bellingham?!
Yeah, I have given up on gettin CHNU/21 (I dont even think it shows up on my Tvfool report). As for CHEK/49, there's a spot in Tvfool if I raise my antenna to like 15 feet, it shows NM of about -8dB, so I might try to get that later, once I can get CKVU/33 first.
I have this crappy portable RCA DTV handheld, which doesnt have a manual channel edit, so I have to scan through the whole channel list each time I repoint the antenna to see if I can get a NEW channel discovered. I wish I had kept an Artec handheld, which allowed me to "sit" on an particular RF channel and see the signal meter go up and down. alas! I've not tried to get/aim for RF 28 yet.
Ok, here are some more eye-ball results for BC stations.
First, I can get the two BGHAM (Orcas Islands) stations very easily (KVOS/35 and SHOPNBC/19), but it is harder to get KBTC/24.. go figure, I really have to aim and tweak precisely to get that, even though its in the same location as RF35 and 15!? Oh well. But still I know I can get it.
So for the BC stations, I seem to get these in order (from easy to harder to get): CIVI/17, CIVI2/32, CHAN/22 (sometimes hard to get since it has local RF22/KCPQ conflict), CBUT/43, CBUFT/26 (harder to get), and OMNI/20 (even harder to get, but still possible).
As for the Seattle stations, wow, it seemed harder to get than the BC stations. Again, from "easy to hard" order: KCPQ/13 VHF, KWPX/33, UNIVISION/51, RF14 (KTBW religion from Tacoma, suprised I can get it easily), KING/48, KIRO/38, KOMO/39, JOETV/25, KSTW/11, KONG/31.
I dont think I was able to get RF44 or RF46, or KCTS/9 VHF (but then I didnt spend too much time to get them since my dorky TV handehld doesnt let me sit on an RF channel until it gets it first). Also, I wonder since it has tuned to KWPX on RF33, that there is some PSIP/ID for KWPX, such that even if it sees CKVU on RF33 that the ID dont match and so it rejects that signal??? Maybe I should do a full scan to remove all channels and try to rescan fresh to get RF 33 , since I need to find where I can get CKVU 33, since I know I can get the other BC channels (except CHEK/49).