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post #1861 of 2180
11/3/09 at 4:59pm
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Originally Posted by MarcS View Post

There have been a few times I've missed my 4221...

I finally put my Radio Shack 1880 up in the attic to replace a combo VHF/UFH antenna, especially now with the WWAY signal strength increased, I pick up all locals with no problem... but the 1880 is no longer available.

Anyway, you shouldn't need a major antenna solution to get locals... either satellite service should be cheaper than cable. I've used the DirecTV box (parent's house), but I really like the Dish interface better on my 722 box... I got grandfathered into the "Dish'n it up" package--only HD channels for $30/mo... of which I only watch a few.

USA network is really trampling the networks with their programming quality...

If your pulling in all locals with the 1880 in your attic then I should have no problems using the 4221 (did i remember to say thanks again!). Though taking it down might reduce the value of my home when putting it up for sale.
I have been comparing packages for cable, dish & DirecTv and I'm starting to think the same people wrote the 1,900 page health reform bill. I get more confused with each "package" and "installation" requirements ($$) per TV, promo "rebate's" as well as monthly charges per "extra" box. OK, I'm just whining now. I'm used to paying nothing for OTA and receive top video quality. If I'm going to pay for cable/sat, I would like a responsive unit, don't really care about DVR, want HDTV for at least 1 TV and maybe a second for my projector upstairs (component). So who has the best HD included in their "base" price?

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post #1862 of 2180
11/3/09 at 6:00pm
Thank you WWAY TV for not wrecking "V" premier with election result squeezes! New Bern ABC ruined it with banners squeezed around the picture.
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post #1863 of 2180
11/3/09 at 8:29pm
Guess it depends on your viewing habits, but I really like my DVR... set a "season pass", and all new shows will be recorded until the season ends... never have to worry about it...

I still do use my MDP-130 card for most network recordings--but use TW cable lifeline as the feed--although I'm always re-thinking that given my good OTA reception.

I tried feeding my antenna back into the rest of the house, but it didn't work, haven't done any trouble shooting yet, could be I got my connections confused...

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post #1864 of 2180
11/4/09 at 2:59pm
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Originally Posted by incus View Post

If your pulling in all locals with the 1880 in your attic then I should have no problems using the 4221 (did i remember to say thanks again!). Though taking it down might reduce the value of my home when putting it up for sale.
I have been comparing packages for cable, dish & DirecTv and I'm starting to think the same people wrote the 1,900 page health reform bill. I get more confused with each "package" and "installation" requirements ($$) per TV, promo "rebate's" as well as monthly charges per "extra" box. OK, I'm just whining now. I'm used to paying nothing for OTA and receive top video quality. If I'm going to pay for cable/sat, I would like a responsive unit, don't really care about DVR, want HDTV for at least 1 TV and maybe a second for my projector upstairs (component). So who has the best HD included in their "base" price?

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Scott

Like Marc, said, it kind of comes down to how you watch TV. The satellites currently have more HD programming, but TWC is adding channels nearly monthly and have now got 95%+ of our programming covered.

For one or two sets, Dish/DirecTV will likely have the better pricing, assuming you can satisfy your network programming via OTA.

With TWC, all of your connected outlets will be good for analog up to channel 78 with a set top only required for digital channels and some HD. The HD locals are carried in the clear so any device with a QAM tuner can get them without the need for a cable box.

When I did the comparison earlier this year, for 2HD/2SD rooms with one DVR, TWC/Dish/DirectTV ended up within $5-10/month of each other when promo pricing was taken out of the picture and also ignoring the upfront costs of the sat equipment. Obvious tradeoff is all programming would be availabe on every TV with sat, but that's not necessarily a good thing for the 8 year old. In the end, with TWC's price lock bundled with Roadrunner, TWC was the best fit for us. YMMV.

BTW, once you go DVR, you'll wonder how you lived without it, kind of like microwave ovens. I was never a timeshifter much with VCRs; just too cumbersome...DVR is so easy, a caveman could do it, as does my techno challenged wife. :-)

-Brent
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post #1865 of 2180
11/4/09 at 5:55pm
I time-shift about 90% of my viewing... what a pleasure...
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post #1866 of 2180
11/5/09 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by jspENC View Post

Someone must have operated on the WWAY transmitter. My signal is back up to the 90's again!

They must have put a new tube in the transmitter like a 6af4.
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post #1867 of 2180
11/6/09 at 5:38am
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Originally Posted by David-the-dtv-ma View Post

They must have put a new tube in the transmitter like a 6af4.

If they did replace a tube, that first one held out for a really long time. WWAY was the very first to come on the air digitally, and the strongest signal.
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post #1868 of 2180
11/9/09 at 5:46pm
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

I grew up in southeastern NC watching WECT and WWAY. I suspect I may know more about that area than you think so tread lightly here my friend. I also have friends who work for the stations there so again, I would tread lightly. You are not listening to reason and to facts. You have no desire to. You are right and everyone else is wrong.

WILM has only be on the air about 10 to 15 years and is a low power station. WWAY and WECT have been on since the late 50's and early 60's as full power stations. That makes a big difference finacially. The problem here is you want it and so everyone should jump. Dream on buddy.

I am done with this. Talk all you want to yourself.

Well there you go Rich. I've not been on here in a while, though I do still lurk a bit, for the very reason you have ran off foxeng. You have all of the answers and the "10 year road map" theory that you love to toss out there. Fact of the matter is, you are not willing to listen to what the very people who are working at the stations are trying to tell you... you just want to attempt to brow-beat them into saying "you are right". In the years I have been a member of these forums I have tried to use them to help improve our viewers experience... either by noting where a problem is, or by informing them as to why there is a problem and when we hope to have it corrected. I don't know foxeng personally, but I do know he has as much or more knowledge about "the business" as anyone else who posts on this forum. So what you do by making the comments that you tend to post here is drive a wedge between the viewers posting here and the very people who have their hands on the equipment and are honestly trying to make things better for those viewers. In effect, you are completely alienating the relationship between the viewers and technical people at the stations. I don't get paid to post on here, but have done so to try to make better what you, the viewer, is wanting. But I also don't care to constantly get bombarded with hot headed people that are not willing to discuss, but only want to blame and spew garbage.

I am not commenting on behalf of my employer, just my personal feelings.
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post #1869 of 2180
11/9/09 at 7:29pm
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Originally Posted by bstratton View Post

Well there you go Rich. I've not been on here in a while, though I do still lurk a bit, for the very reason you have ran off foxeng. You have all of the answers and the "10 year road map" theory that you love to toss out there. Fact of the matter is, you are not willing to listen to what the very people who are working at the stations are trying to tell you... you just want to attempt to brow-beat them into saying "you are right". In the years I have been a member of these forums I have tried to use them to help improve our viewers experience... either by noting where a problem is, or by informing them as to why there is a problem and when we hope to have it corrected. I don't know foxeng personally, but I do know he has as much or more knowledge about "the business" as anyone else who posts on this forum. So what you do by making the comments that you tend to post here is drive a wedge between the viewers posting here and the very people who have their hands on the equipment and are honestly trying to make things better for those viewers. In effect, you are completely alienating the relationship between the viewers and technical people at the stations. I don't get paid to post on here, but have done so to try to make better what you, the viewer, is wanting. But I also don't care to constantly get bombarded with hot headed people that are not willing to discuss, but only want to blame and spew garbage.

I am not commenting on behalf of my employer, just my personal feelings.

I am not surprised you jumped in to defend a fellow engineer but it's interesting that you seem to be taking the same tact that you accuse me of.

Your post is full of vitrol but short on anything to refute what I have posted. If you or Foxeng want to show where I have gotten it wrong just post it and I will apologize.

When you were facing all kinds of challenges at your station with HD I thought everybody communicated and showed a great deal of patience and you responded in a very professional manner. Contrast that with Foxeng's imperial decrees regarding something he has no responsibility for.

You may not like that the world has changed (in this case very slowly) but change it has.

As far as "alienating" I guess that is in the eye of the beholder. Be a little careful with the broadsides.
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post #1870 of 2180
11/13/09 at 4:24pm
Did TW Cable remap all their digital channels? Yesterday I lost all my mappings for locals. Re-scanned one tv and got them back...

Time to build that 8-bay antenna for the attic and go all OTA...
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post #1871 of 2180
11/13/09 at 7:09pm
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Originally Posted by MarcS View Post

Did TW Cable remap all their digital channels? Yesterday I lost all my mappings for locals. Re-scanned one tv and got them back...

Time to build that 8-bay antenna for the attic and go all OTA...

They probably did. I know they were going to in the Raleigh area. They are also raising rates up to 33% in the Triad, so you know it will happen down here also.

Try this link. http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun...lineup_1104809 Are these the right channels now?
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post #1872 of 2180
11/13/09 at 8:27pm
I've just got the basic lifeline service, which went from $8 to $10 earlier this year...

I can confirm that they did remap channels, I had to rescan on all of my receivers... I lost WSFX on one tv a few months ago, and now seem to have lost it on my computer tuner card... but I still get it on another tv. I suspect it could be due to my signal distribution system, maybe length of coax...

Whatever... time to go all OTA anyway, but I'll have to run some more coax under the house--and ain't that some fun!
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post #1873 of 2180
11/13/09 at 8:33pm
Now that's an interesting link... I'll have to consult that a bit more. Most of the mappings seem to match what I've got. But I notice there's no Fox, and for me 78-5 is UNC HD, 88-10 is 14 News.

Wait, http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun...lineup_1105069 this is better...

Turns out the list in the above link is either inaccurate or my tuner card decodes differently... I get WILM on 85-10...
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post #1874 of 2180
11/14/09 at 8:26am
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Originally Posted by MarcS View Post

Did TW Cable remap all their digital channels? Yesterday I lost all my mappings for locals. Re-scanned one tv and got them back...

Time to build that 8-bay antenna for the attic and go all OTA...

Here is what I have for the Wilmington qam TW HD channels since the remap:

ABC 3.1
NBC 6.1
CBS 10.1
FOX 10.13 or 85.13*
UNC PBS 78.7**

* Proscan TV shows 10.13 and Westinghouse TV shows 85.13 for Fox HD
** UNC changed from 93.7 on the last remap.
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post #1875 of 2180
11/14/09 at 10:23am
I'll see whats up on the Jacksonville system in an hour or so and see if anything changed, or if Wilmington is coming in again. I these channels used to, but for the last 8 months or so it has been only Greenville/New Bern.

There are no ION digital channels from Jacksonville's 35-1 - 35-4. I think that is illegal too. The must carry law by city of license is not being followed for WPXU
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post #1876 of 2180
11/14/09 at 12:24pm
They're only required to carry 35-1.

- Trip
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post #1877 of 2180
11/14/09 at 12:54pm
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

They're only required to carry 35-1.

- Trip

It is only on analog channel 5, no digital version of ION. I just scanned TW and the only changes were to UNC. It comes in on 77.7 HD CBS had changed, but I don't know to what. The TV won't let you see anything but the virtual #s for those. Still no Wilmington HD locals. I guess those days are over.
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post #1878 of 2180
11/14/09 at 6:21pm
Fixed the remapping issue by using my antenna feed for all tv's--cable was a convenience for local HD's whose time has now passed... as soon as I make sure the re-wire is robust enough, it will be time to cancel TW Cable lifeline subscription... (I have 2 digital receivers that cannot "see" or map WSFX, pretty sure it's not a problem at my end)
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post #1879 of 2180
11/14/09 at 8:08pm
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Originally Posted by MarcS View Post

Fixed the remapping issue by using my antenna feed for all tv's--cable was a convenience for local HD's whose time has now passed... as soon as I make sure the re-wire is robust enough, it will be time to cancel TW Cable lifeline subscription... (I have 2 digital receivers that cannot "see" or map WSFX, pretty sure it's not a problem at my end)

On TW qam Wilmington I have 1 receiver that shows it on 10.13 and one that has it on 85.13 but Fox does show up on both with a good picture and audio.
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post #1880 of 2180
11/16/09 at 8:10am
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Originally Posted by MarcS View Post

it will be time to cancel TW Cable lifeline subscription

Are some of you paying the 10 bucks a month for HD locals from TW?
I thought there was some law that went with the digital transition that requires cable companies to offer their local digital channels on clear qam without subscription. I could be way off though.

I had not signed up with TW for over a year and had free local HD when i was with Dish network. Mainly had it hooked up for WILM.

I know another household that ditched cable all together but still get the the 4 HD stations, digital substions and news14 for free from TW.
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post #1881 of 2180
11/16/09 at 9:51am
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Originally Posted by beazster View Post

Are some of you paying the 10 bucks a month for HD locals from TW?
I thought there was some law that went with the digital transition that requires cable companies to offer their local digital channels on clear qam without subscription. I could be way off though.

I had not signed up with TW for over a year and had free local HD when i was with Dish network. Mainly had it hooked up for WILM.

I know another household that ditched cable all together but still get the the 4 HD stations, digital substions and news14 for free from TW.

If you have internet with Warner, you still can pick up the digital channels over QAM because they use the same frequency as the roadrunner. however, I don't think it is technically a service you are supposed to be watching without payment. If they came into the home and saw that you had the cable hooked to the TV, it could be a problem.

WWAY noticed yesterday during the race that their power is down again. I wonder if they are just saving money on the power bill?
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post #1882 of 2180
11/16/09 at 10:25am
Now why would you be inviting TW Cable techs into your house??

That's interesting, but the remapping is what I don't like--no problems like that with OTA, unless WWAY decides to mess with their PSIP. I use the MDP-130 tuner card for my OTA DVR, and it takes a while to scan, but more than that, it doesn't always pick up the locals automatically... so I tried to search for WSFX by manually selecting all the main/sub-channels it finds (hundred or so?) to see if I get a picture...

I noticed the WWAY signal strength drop also...
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post #1883 of 2180
11/16/09 at 3:54pm
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Originally Posted by jspENC View Post

If you have internet with Warner, you still can pick up the digital channels over QAM because they use the same frequency as the roadrunner. however, I don't think it is technically a service you are supposed to be watching without payment. If they came into the home and saw that you had the cable hooked to the TV, it could be a problem.

WWAY noticed yesterday during the race that their power is down again. I wonder if they are just saving money on the power bill?

I assume that one day the cable folks will wise up & put cable modem out side on the side of your house in a locked box. Then will run an cat 5 cable to a rj-45 outlet at your PC.



They just do not make those tubes like the used to.
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post #1884 of 2180
11/23/09 at 7:32am
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Originally Posted by David-the-dtv-ma View Post

I assume that one day the cable folks will wise up & put cable modem out side on the side of your house in a locked box. Then will run an cat 5 cable to a rj-45 outlet at your PC.

The problem with that is the first level tech folks will lose their cure all. "Unplug the power to the modem for 2 minutes and plug back in"
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post #1885 of 2180
12/3/09 at 6:57am
I don't recall, but can I assume that WSFX doesn't have the equipment for crawlers in HD? The weather warnings last night put the picture into a window box mode...
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post #1886 of 2180
12/3/09 at 7:03am
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Originally Posted by MarcS View Post

I don't recall, but can I assume that WSFX doesn't have the equipment for crawlers in HD? The weather warnings last night put the picture into a window box mode...

Last one that doesn't have proper equipment. They share with WECT but HD can be implemented on on NBC but not Fox.
Did I ever share my theory on why should it be so hard to plan and budget when you have had a 10 year roadmap?
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post #1887 of 2180
12/3/09 at 7:06am
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Originally Posted by Rich in ILM View Post

Last one that doesn't have proper equipment. They share with WECT but HD can be implemented on on NBC but not Fox.
Did I ever share my theory on why should it be so hard to plan and budget when you have had a 10 year roadmap?

It's hard to budget in equipment that doesn't exist. Since Fox does not allow local stations to overlay on network HD, I'm not sure how budgeting for it would have mattered.

- Trip
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post #1888 of 2180
12/3/09 at 7:10am
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

It's hard to budget in equipment that doesn't exist. Since Fox does not allow local stations to overlay on network HD, I'm not sure how budgeting for it would have mattered.

- Trip

Well according to my son in law WFLD in Chicago does it.?
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post #1889 of 2180
12/3/09 at 7:12am
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Originally Posted by Rich in ILM View Post

Well according to my son in law WFLD in Chicago does it.?

The new splicer does allow for it, but it is not yet operating correctly in the places where it is installed from what I've been told and is not yet implemented in all markets. Also, it is paid for by Fox, so again, I'm not sure how budgeting money for it would have made any difference.

- Trip
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post #1890 of 2180
12/3/09 at 7:15am
The Wilmington stations did not even warn their viewers when a Tornado warning was issued last night, except WECT with a crawl. The Greenville/New Bern stations actually came on and passed the warning along for Pender county right away. (at least 9 and 12) If it had been a deadly tornado, a LOT of people would not have even taken cover. I think the complaints about interruption of "So I think I may dance" need to be re-thought. I would rather miss a program, than possibly not see another day to watch TV. The people that live out in the middle of nowhere probably have no internet and cable to start with.

0315 60 5 NE CURRIE PENDER NC 3453 7805 NEAR INTERSECTION OF FULLERTOWN ROAD AND STONEHOUSE ROAD, SOUTHEAST OF WARDS CORNER IN PENDER COUNTY. WIND GUST OBSERVED OF 60 TO 70 MPH. (ILM)

0320 UNK 2 N WINNABOW BRUNSWICK NC 3418 7810 TREE DOWN ON POWER LINES (ILM)

0355 UNK 1 SW LA GRANGE LENOIR NC 3530 7780 LENOIR COUNTY 911 REPORTED STRUCTURAL DAMAGE AT 2 DIFFERENT RESIDENCES. GARAGES WERE REPORTEDLY FLIPPED OVER. POSSIBLE TORNADO DAMAGE. (MHX)

0358 60 1 ESE WARDS CORNER PENDER NC 3453 7805 SPOTTER REPORTED 60 TO 70 MPH WIND GUST NEAR INTERSECTION OF FULLERTOWN ROAD AND STONEHOUSE ROAD. (ILM)

70 MPH isn't something to brush off. This could have turned into a real tornado in a hurry, and may have around Kinston.
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