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post #1621 of 2633
Quote:
Originally posted by TooLittleTimeZZZ
I've got an HLN467 hooked to a Comcast Moto 6200 (set to output 720p) and found that for SD the DVI is noticeably cleaner than component. I've also found that the samsung TV does a better job tuning SD direct from the cable than the Moto 6200 does.

So at this point, I use the 6200 just for the HD signals and let the TV tune the SD signals. For HD I find the DVI from the 6200 to be sharper, though its hard to find a stable enough high quality image to test that with. The PBS HD channel works pretty well since they have their PBS-HD "bug" on the screen a lot and they put text/graphics on screen between shows. The defects I see in component are chroma misalignment and slight horizontal smear.

I don't follow what you mean by switching from DVI to component in order to hear the sound without a receiver though. That should make no difference.

What I meant regarding the sound was. On the MOTO 5100 ther is only one set of R/L audio outs. Component 2 has 5 inputs 3 component and 2 audio. DVI audio uses the separate audio input to the right of Component 3.

I just haven't picked up a couple of splitters to input to both.
post #1622 of 2633
I wanted to thank the folks who were so insistent about a home theater instead of an audio switch when connecting two DVI inputs into my HLN5065W. Of course, my solution will be anathema to many, but..

I bought a $70 dollar HTIB from Walmart (Durabrand). It has two digital inputs, better sound than the TV speakers, and the receiver makes a whirring noise that can be heard when the TV is quiet (well, at least I didn't get the $48 one). However, it does deliver surround sound. Watching a minute of The Scorpion King, suddenly arrows came from the rear to the front. Kinda neat.

Anyway, because it has two digital inputs I am ready whenever I get the Moto6208 and DVI, the neighbors hear nothing (unpowered subwoofer) and I get another new inexpensive electronic toy.

Someday in the future I will upgrade I'm sure.

Thanks again.

Rich N.
post #1623 of 2633
Thread Starter 
I have updated the information on the new HLN-W1 models here:
http://www.digiupdate.com/105_DLP_RP...ung_HLN_Series
http://www.digiupdate.com/P001_Samsu..._DLP_2003.html

The main changes I have made are:
- There is no difference in terms of A/V sync issue
- The E10 lens is not new in these models, but has already been incorporated into HLN models, so I've taken out a mention of the lens

These changes were made after getting a clarification from Samsung.
post #1624 of 2633
Thanks for the update Arun. The 617 I got in Nov. 2003 is definitely not a W1. No big deal.
post #1625 of 2633
Thread Starter 
I agree that the new W1 models are really not a big deal. For most people, it won't be worthwhile waiting for the new sets or trying to get upgrade to them.
post #1626 of 2633
Quote:


Originally posted by arungupta
I have updated the information on the new HLN-W1 models here:
http://www.digiupdate.com/105_DLP_RP...ung_HLN_Series
http://www.digiupdate.com/P001_Samsu..._DLP_2003.html

The main changes I have made are:
- There is no difference in terms of A/V sync issue
- The E10 lens is not new in these models, but has already been incorporated into HLN models, so I've taken out a mention of the lens

These changes were made after getting a clarification from Samsung.

Arun,

Your model/firmware history table still lists the A/V sync issue as being resolved.

Sooke
post #1627 of 2633
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Sooke. The change that I made today was in a little bit of a hurry.

I shall be providing a much more extensive coverage of this topic over the next day or so. And I welcome all input/feedback, like yours, that will help make the content better.
post #1628 of 2633
Thread Starter 
I have posted an interview on Samsung HLN-W1 sets with Steve G. Panosian, Director of Marketing - Digital Projection TV, Samsung Electronics America. See this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=378490
post #1629 of 2633
Quote:


Originally posted by arungupta
I have posted an interview on Samsung HLN-W1 sets with Steve G. Panosian, Director of Marketing - Digital Projection TV, Samsung Electronics America. See this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=378490

I'm disappointed Panosian only mentions the audio sync issue via component inputs and not DVI; my worst problem is viewing DVDs with my Sammie 931 DVD player.
post #1630 of 2633
Thread Starter 
I am collecting data on this issue and passing it to Mr. Panosian. I shall include your observation.
post #1631 of 2633
Hi, great site.
I'm new to the DLP (or any big screen TV) technology. I read the info on the upgrades to HLN-W1 sets and Mr. Panosian's interview, is it a good choice to purchase the HLN5065W model? Should I wait until the W1s come out?

Thanks, Larry
post #1632 of 2633
After getting my 3rd replacement HLN567W in 2 months (lamp problem and dead pixel with the first 2) I just noticed that my picture setting contain adjustment options for Brightness, Color, Sharpness and Contrast but no "Tint" as the last settingon the bottom as it shows in the manual.

Help?
post #1633 of 2633
Are you using component, video or DVI? Tint is an available option for video but not for the component or DVI input.
post #1634 of 2633
is anyone fam. w the panny PT60lc13 thsnkd Mikesan1
post #1635 of 2633
Quote:


Originally posted by mikesan1
is anyone fam. w the panny PT60lc13 thsnkd Mikesan1

Try a pan. c13 thread.
post #1636 of 2633
I was going to wait for the upgraded W1's based on this forum but now see that there is no 43 incher planned for the future. So if i really dont need the extra space- (i might but cant be sure on the fit of th 46 w1 into my walll unit) do i pounce on the new 3k retail price? or wait and take a look at the LG mentioned recently at ces..any thoughts would be appreicate particulary if cc'd to caledoniasoulmusic-tubes@yahoo.com

PS plans are time warner nyc hdtv into component and cheapo sammy or bravo dvd into dvi? mmmm


thanks alll
post #1637 of 2633
Quote:


Originally posted by kbuzz
I was going to wait for the upgraded W1's based on this forum but now see that there is no 43 incher planned for the future. So if i really dont need the extra space- (i might but cant be sure on the fit of th 46 w1 into my walll unit) do i pounce on the new 3k retail price?
thanks alll

You should be able to get a HLN437W1 without any problem. The HLN467 is the same width but doesn't taper in like the 43" set. LG's LCD RPTV has a very big bezel so I expect their DLP set will too.
post #1638 of 2633
have a sam 507w and a child, any advice out there on the best way to clean the screen?

thanks
post #1639 of 2633
I use laptop screen cleaner and these funky special lint free hospital sterile cloths.
post #1640 of 2633
Quote:


Originally posted by Zimmy
have a sam 507w and a child, any advice out there on the best way to clean the screen?

thanks

Micro fiber cloth is very popular. I got two at an Auto Parts store for about $7.00. Use them dry or damp. It's the same material that comes with new glasses.

http://www.bettercarcare.com/articles.php?articleId=44
http://www.neatitems.com/
http://www.pakshak.com/
post #1641 of 2633
I use Monsters screen cleaning kit. Comes with a big cloth and spray cleanser that doesnt run. $20, but works well and should last a long time.

Sooke
post #1642 of 2633
Arun, who do you think can challange sammy dlp in every area, price, features, quality, avail., etc.? Thanks, mikesan1
post #1643 of 2633
Wonder if anyone has manage to get the Momitsu 880 to run at 720x480i resolution output to the 437 via DVI. I figured that the 437 has a better deinterlacer and scaling engine then the 880.
post #1644 of 2633
Thread Starter 
Samsung now has an interactive DLP manual on-line:

www.samsungusa.com/dlpmanual
post #1645 of 2633
I hate to ask, but other than the color of the bezel, what is the difference between the 507 and the 5065?
post #1646 of 2633
Thread Starter 
None.
post #1647 of 2633
Quote:


Originally posted by arungupta
Samsung now has an interactive DLP manual on-line:

www.samsungusa/dlpmanual

Arun, please change the link to include .com after samsungusa. Otherwise, the link doesn't work.
post #1648 of 2633
Uhm, forgot the .com The link is:

http://www.samsungusa.com/dlpmanual/
post #1649 of 2633
Thread Starter 
thanks, I fixed the link.
post #1650 of 2633
I also use the Monster cleaner and cloth.

BTW, if there is any question why Samsung decided to knock 500 bucks off of the price of its DLPs, all you have to do is visit you nearest Best Buy or Gateway store. I just saw a beautiful RCA 61" DLP at BB for $3700! And our local Gateway store had a 43" DLP for $2800 advertised in their Sunday newpapaer insert.

I think Samsung's free ride in the DLP segment is over.
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