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post #1621 of 1741
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Originally Posted by Mister B View Post

Here is another rant about KVIA. Did I just begin to notice or do they have a new method of showing all of their commercials in 16:9 center screen. The black bars on all sides are not even quite even. I had just seen that new ad for El Paso tourism (It's All Good) on KFOX. It is really quite impressive with festive colors and music. I flipped over to KVIA and saw the same ad in blurry SD in the center of the screen. It did not have near the impact. I would think that advertisers would pay less to have their product shown on this poor excuse for an ABC affiliate.

I have noticed this letter boxing on KTSM and KDBC lately also even on national (honda) comercials.
post #1622 of 1741
UPDATE: On KVIA upgrade from the chief station engineer. See if it happens. You would think at least their tentative date would coincide with the first fall primetime show. Atlest he responded within a few hours of me e-mailing him. elias.ventanilla@kvia.com

We have a tentative date of October 3,2013; by this date we should be passing 5.1 sorround (When available). The extension of the line up on the electronic guide will only be available for 12 hours in advance. Not sure exactly why, but perhaps is to afford last minute changes to programming.


Elias
post #1623 of 1741
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Originally Posted by mreedelp View Post

Concerning the El Paso tourism commercial, isn't it the same commercial that was used in the several year old El Paso, You have no idea campaign just with the tag changed? Much of it seems very familiar.

Since KVIA hasn't upgraded their equipment yet, they are probably having to downgrade the HD version.

It is about time everything was created in HD 16:9 format. Let people with old analog TVs suffer, not those of us paying thousands of dollars to see TV with a clear, sharp picture.

I also think it is ridiculous that the station logo is put so far to the left to accommodate the old analog TV's. KDBC is probably the worst going close to 1/3 over on the screen at least it is opaque not like ABC which is colored. But these things are stupid. I know what program and network I am watching.
post #1624 of 1741
I recently just made the switch from cable to OTA TV. My problem is that I can not find Fox or CBS when I do a channel scan. I switch from an indoor antenna to a roof mounted Yagi style antenna and get the same results. I tried using the azimuth ( both magnetic and true) from TV fool but no luck with that either. I'm in the northeast with clear line of sight to the Franklin mountains from the roof of my house. Any help will be appreciated. Here is the TV fool report for my address. Thanks again

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46ae7d8b98253a
post #1625 of 1741
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Originally Posted by spence7607 View Post

I recently just made the switch from cable to OTA TV. My problem is that I can not find Fox or CBS when I do a channel scan. I switch from an indoor antenna to a roof mounted Yagi style antenna and get the same results. I tried using the azimuth ( both magnetic and true) from TV fool but no luck with that either. I'm in the northeast with clear line of sight to the Franklin mountains from the roof of my house. Any help will be appreciated. Here is the TV fool report for my address. Thanks again

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46ae7d8b98253a

First, can you see all the antennas on the mountain? looking south the first is Fox, then KTSM and KVIA (the tallest and very close together) then farther down the slop is KCOS and last is KDBC. If you center your antenna on KTSM and KVIA you should be able to pick up all. let me know. KVIA is the weakest but they are supposed to get new equipment in October.
post #1626 of 1741
Actually, KCOS is the lowest tower at latitude 31.47.15 while KDBC is the large tower next lower from KVIA/KTSM at latitude 31.47.46. The tower between KDBC and KCOS is KINT, channel 26. I hope Spence is not using any type of amplifier as the two problems he mentions are shown as the strongest on his TV Fool chart. KCOS is the one transmitter he is cut off from line of sight and he does not mention any problem with it.
post #1627 of 1741
It would be nice if local stations monitored their OTA signals.

KDBC and KTSM have been up and down a lot today. It was frustrating while trying to watch the Sunday morning shows on KDBC. But it is really frustrating now trying to watch football.
post #1628 of 1741
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Originally Posted by mreedelp View Post

It would be nice if local stations monitored their OTA signals.

KDBC and KTSM have been up and down a lot today. It was frustrating while trying to watch the Sunday morning shows on KDBC. But it is really frustrating now trying to watch football.

It has been going on for quite a while but started getting really bad last Friday. Both stations are up for or already have been sold. I don't think any money for repairs are being spent. Lots of pixilation also
Edited by FRANK43 - 9/8/13 at 1:00pm
post #1629 of 1741
Mmm I don't know, I watched NFL all day with no interruptions, if it was in the morning I was watching channel 20-1 where they air most if not all of the games there, watched the whole 49ers and Cowboys games with no interruptions
post #1630 of 1741
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

Mmm I don't know, I watched NFL all day with no interruptions, if it was in the morning I was watching channel 20-1 where they air most if not all of the games there, watched the whole 49ers and Cowboys games with no interruptions

We were talking about KDBC and KTSM. KDBC went off the air both on Antenna and Satalite for about 10 minute today during Young anf the Restless. At about 11:15. Maybe they fixed something.
post #1631 of 1741
Hopefully a lot of these problems ( pixilation and audio and signal drops) will get FIXED when KDBC' AND KTSM' sales get done and approved approved. They have for sale for awhile and I don't think the companies that own them are putting any money into them except to keep them on the air. KFOX was sold to SInclair close to a year ago. KVIA is still waiting on the "BIG UPGRADE" they have been promising for a couple of years. My last communication form them said October 6, 2013. I'll believe it when I hear and see it ! lol
post #1632 of 1741
Urgent News Update:

KVIA finally aired GMA in HD on the weekend. This just happened this morning. At first, they showed the junky SD feed from the wrong time (7:30). Then, they switched to the east coast feed of This Week in HD for a second. Finally, they switched to GMA in HD at the correct time! It was amazing. Every national part (including national commercials) was in HD. So this means that KVIA does have an HD recorder on their hands. Maybe they will get it done by October 6. Unfortunately, This Week at 9 was in junky SD again. Hopefully they are getting another recorder. I really wish the CW would be offered in HD, at least to they pay TV providers. Viewership would probably go up. I am interested in seeing The Tomorrow People, but only if it is in HD.

Anyone have any other updates about KVIA?? It's about time they finally upgraded. Hopefully they will start producing their local commercials and adverts in HD very soon.
post #1633 of 1741
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Originally Posted by artiepenguin View Post

Urgent News Update:

KVIA finally aired GMA in HD on the weekend. This just happened this morning. At first, they showed the junky SD feed from the wrong time (7:30). Then, they switched to the east coast feed of This Week in HD for a second. Finally, they switched to GMA in HD at the correct time! It was amazing. Every national part (including national commercials) was in HD. So this means that KVIA does have an HD recorder on their hands. Maybe they will get it done by October 6. Unfortunately, This Week at 9 was in junky SD again. Hopefully they are getting another recorder. I really wish the CW would be offered in HD, at least to they pay TV providers. Viewership would probably go up. I am interested in seeing The Tomorrow People, but only if it is in HD.

Anyone have any other updates about KVIA?? It's about time they finally upgraded. Hopefully they will start producing their local commercials and adverts in HD very soon.

They only showed GMA once in HD. AS of tonight Monday Oct 7 nothing in Dobly 5.1 only stereo. So their last update of everything in place by Oct 6 didn't happen. Be back tomorrow with engineers email so maybe if more of us send a update request they will know it is not just me asking. Good night
post #1634 of 1741
Sent this e-mail to: elias.ventanilla@kvia.com the chief engineer at KVIA. Lets all send an e-mail. Let you know what I hear back.

Hi Elias,

Noticed that as of last nights Castle it was not in Dolby 5.1 on plane stereo. GMA weekend was not in HD. What is the status on your upgrade?

Below is your answer the last time I wrote to you. Looks like you missed the target date.

Frank
post #1635 of 1741
Did anyone catch the KVIA promo shortly after 4:00PM today (10/8)? I thought it was just about the news so "tuned" out, but then caught the last little bit. They mentioned a "new look" beginning October 14.

Maybe this is the upgrade we have been waiting years for.
post #1636 of 1741
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Originally Posted by FRANK43 View Post

They only showed GMA once in HD. AS of tonight Monday Oct 7 nothing in Dobly 5.1 only stereo. So their last update of everything in place by Oct 6 didn't happen. Be back tomorrow with engineers email so maybe if more of us send a update request they will know it is not just me asking. Good night

Yes, sadly, I know. They did not show GMA or This Week in HD once again, as always, this past weekend. I also heard that tomorrow, Oct. 9 at 11AM, DirecTV will stop carrying KVIA because of a dispute over how much DTV should pay KVIA. I hope, but it is very unlikely, that DirecTV will allow us to watch the national ABC feeds from LA or NYC. They probably won't, but I am hoping. That way I can watch shows genuinely live and without technical glitches.
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Originally Posted by mreedelp View Post

Did anyone catch the KVIA promo shortly after 4:00PM today (10/8)? I thought it was just about the news so "tuned" out, but then caught the last little bit. They mentioned a "new look" beginning October 14.
Maybe this is the upgrade we have been waiting years for.

No, I did not catch this. October 14 is Monday, so that is not too long from now. A new look could mean anything from new graphics to a new person at the anchor desk. I am really hoping for HD and new graphics. Their graphics are severely outdated; the weather graphics are far-too simplistic. KTSM's weather graphics include a lot more details and are not squeezed to the middle like KVIA's graphics. I tried searched for it on KVIA.com but found nothing related to KVIA and October 14.
post #1637 of 1741
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Originally Posted by artiepenguin View Post



Yes, sadly, I know. They did not show GMA or This Week in HD once again, as always, this past weekend. I also heard that tomorrow, Oct. 9 at 11AM, DirecTV will stop carrying KVIA because of a dispute over how much DTV should pay KVIA. I hope, but it is very unlikely, that DirecTV will allow us to watch the national ABC feeds from LA or NYC. They probably won't, but I am hoping. That way I can watch shows genuinely live and without technical glitches.
No, I did not catch this. October 14 is Monday, so that is not too long from now. A new look could mean anything from new graphics to a new person at the anchor desk. I am really hoping for HD and new graphics. Their graphics are severely outdated; the weather graphics are far-too simplistic. KTSM's weather graphics include a lot more details and are not squeezed to the middle like KVIA's graphics. I tried searched for it on KVIA.com but found nothing related to KVIA and October 14.

I didn't see any promo, but I didn't watch much KVIA last night. Sent sent the same email I sent to Elias to Rick Cabrera since I have not heard anything. Ya, I hope it is not just graphics and a new news set. See if I get any answers from my e-mail or notice a change on the 14th.
post #1638 of 1741
Hello guys again,

Because of the DirecTV black out, I have decided to make my own antenna to see KVIA again. Here is the link to the TV Fool report for my location: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46aeaf5fdd0748 . It seems like KVIA has changed something with their transmitter from a few years ago, as it claims no signal reaches my house. Back in 2010, when I put up a larger TV antenna, I was able to get KVIA with good signal quality. Now it says that I am more likely to get KOBG all the way from Silver City (96 miles) than I am to get KVIA. I have just tested a homemade antenna; I actually got more channels than with my old channel master from back in 2010. I got channel 5 analog and digital, XEDI00 11 A/D, KFOX 14, 20 A/D, KRWG 22, KLCP-LP 30, KAEP-LP 42, and channel 44 A/D. Yes, it is pretty odd, if you take a look at my radar report, that I was able to get channel 11 analog but not KVIA or any other stations ranked higher in the list.

I used the TV antenna design from this website: http://www.tvantennaplans.com . The only difference is I left the pole 5 ft. long and used chicken wire as the reflector. I am thinking if I add foil around the wire I might be able to get KVIA. Should I buy a pre-amp/amplifier for around $20-30, and if so, how strong should it amplify? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
post #1639 of 1741
K41KY-D is a repeater for KVIA. That may be what you received.

- Trip
post #1640 of 1741
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Originally Posted by artiepenguin View Post

Hello guys again,

Because of the DirecTV black out, I have decided to make my own antenna to see KVIA again. Here is the link to the TV Fool report for my location: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46aeaf5fdd0748 . It seems like KVIA has changed something with their transmitter from a few years ago, as it claims no signal reaches my house. Back in 2010, when I put up a larger TV antenna, I was able to get KVIA with good signal quality. Now it says that I am more likely to get KOBG all the way from Silver City (96 miles) than I am to get KVIA. I have just tested a homemade antenna; I actually got more channels than with my old channel master from back in 2010. I got channel 5 analog and digital, XEDI00 11 A/D, KFOX 14, 20 A/D, KRWG 22, KLCP-LP 30, KAEP-LP 42, and channel 44 A/D. Yes, it is pretty odd, if you take a look at my radar report, that I was able to get channel 11 analog but not KVIA or any other stations ranked higher in the list.

I used the TV antenna design from this website: http://www.tvantennaplans.com . The only difference is I left the pole 5 ft. long and used chicken wire as the reflector. I am thinking if I add foil around the wire I might be able to get KVIA. Should I buy a pre-amp/amplifier for around $20-30, and if so, how strong should it amplify? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Hi, Artie,

First can you pick up KTSM channel 9? Kvia and Ktsm are both on Ranger Peak just a few feet from each other. KVIA is just a bit south and the taller antenna. Kvia also has the weakest signal strength in town. If you can get KTSM you should be able to get KVIA but possibly not because of the lower strength. I have noticed this week they are a bit stronger 88 compared to all others around 98-100. Maybe next week if they change over the may increase SS. You may also have to re tune your TV since They do broadcast on 2 frequencies and may drop one. I have complete line of site of all antennas and about 8-10 miles straight line.

Still no email from KVIA about the conversion but I did see the promo for the "new look" what ever that will mean.
post #1641 of 1741
KTSM is still broadcast on both RF9 and 16 and KVIA is on both RF7 and 17 although the 17 signal is very weak even here in Central El Paso with LOS. If you can get the analog signal on RF 42 it seems you should be able to get KVIA's translator which I believe is still on channel 41. I believe they have just applied for a move to 38 which is KSCE's old analog slot. They may even still be in analog on 57. All of those towers at your 259 degrees heading are near the Las Cruces airport.
post #1642 of 1741
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

K41KY-D is a repeater for KVIA. That may be what you received.

- Trip
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Originally Posted by Mister B View Post

KTSM is still broadcast on both RF9 and 16 and KVIA is on both RF7 and 17 although the 17 signal is very weak even here in Central El Paso with LOS. If you can get the analog signal on RF 42 it seems you should be able to get KVIA's translator which I believe is still on channel 41. I believe they have just applied for a move to 38 which is KSCE's old analog slot. They may even still be in analog on 57. All of those towers at your 259 degrees heading are near the Las Cruces airport.

Yes, that is what I got. I looked at the physical digital channel and it is channel 41. TVFool must be out of date, because it said K41KY-D was on physical ch. 38. I also get K31DR (RF31), but only in analog. That is the remote translator for KASA in T or C. How can I get the digital version of that channel. Is KAEP-LP digital or analog? Some records say it is digital some say analog; currently I only get analog 42.

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Originally Posted by FRANK43 View Post

Hi, Artie,

First can you pick up KTSM channel 9? Kvia and Ktsm are both on Ranger Peak just a few feet from each other. KVIA is just a bit south and the taller antenna. Kvia also has the weakest signal strength in town. If you can get KTSM you should be able to get KVIA but possibly not because of the lower strength. I have noticed this week they are a bit stronger 88 compared to all others around 98-100. Maybe next week if they change over the may increase SS. You may also have to re tune your TV since They do broadcast on 2 frequencies and may drop one. I have complete line of site of all antennas and about 8-10 miles straight line.

Still no email from KVIA about the conversion but I did see the promo for the "new look" what ever that will mean.

No, I cannot get KTSM 9. For some reason, I get all the spanish stations: XEJ 5.1 (RF50), XHCJE 11.1 (RF34), XHCJH 20.1 (RF36), and XHIJ 44.1 (RF45). I have never been able to get KTSM. I used to get KVIA from their original transmitter in El Paso (RF17). That was back in 2010, they adjusted their transmitter since then. So I really want to get KTSM, KVIA (Ranger Pk.) and/or KDBC. Is it possible since I got all the Mexican stations which were ranked lower in the TV Fool report?? Should I use an amplifier? I am going to get a better reflector; the chicken wire moves too much in the wind.
post #1643 of 1741
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Originally Posted by artiepenguin View Post

Hello guys again,

Because of the DirecTV black out, I have decided to make my own antenna to see KVIA again. Here is the link to the TV Fool report for my location: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46aeaf5fdd0748 . It seems like KVIA has changed something with their transmitter from a few years ago, as it claims no signal reaches my house. Back in 2010, when I put up a larger TV antenna, I was able to get KVIA with good signal quality. Now it says that I am more likely to get KOBG all the way from Silver City (96 miles) than I am to get KVIA. I have just tested a homemade antenna; I actually got more channels than with my old channel master from back in 2010. I got channel 5 analog and digital, XEDI00 11 A/D, KFOX 14, 20 A/D, KRWG 22, KLCP-LP 30, KAEP-LP 42, and channel 44 A/D. Yes, it is pretty odd, if you take a look at my radar report, that I was able to get channel 11 analog but not KVIA or any other stations ranked higher in the list.

I used the TV antenna design from this website: http://www.tvantennaplans.com . The only difference is I left the pole 5 ft. long and used chicken wire as the reflector. I am thinking if I add foil around the wire I might be able to get KVIA. Should I buy a pre-amp/amplifier for around $20-30, and if so, how strong should it amplify? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Try this web site. http://www.antennaweb.org/Address.aspx use your Zip Code and Street address. It will show lines of site, stations and types of antennas. With Digital TV you need pretty good line of site to the antennas. Buildings, trees etc. can mess this up. Not sure what year KVIA move their transmitter next to KTSM's but they used to be farther south on the mountain. Where you able to ever pick up KTSM? Can you or did you ever get KFOX, KDBC or KCOS (PBS)
Edited by FRANK43 - 10/12/13 at 3:23pm
post #1644 of 1741
Arti: You are obviously on the east mesa of Las Cruces along highway 70. That has always been a difficult reception area. That was the original purpose of the translators on the west mesa, to pick up the El Paso stations and re-broadcast them with a clear line of sight to the east mesa. Many years ago channel 4 was re-broadcast on 7 and 9 was on 6. You may be getting some of the Juarez channels due to the slightly different angle and elevation of their towers. Actually there are more in Juarez that you did not mention such as the digital versions of channels 2, 32 and 56. If you have now found the digital translator for KVIA on RF41 that will help you during this dispute with the satellite service but I do not believe that reception of all of the major networks in HD is possible at your location.
post #1645 of 1741
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Originally Posted by Mister B View Post

Arti: You are obviously on the east mesa of Las Cruces along highway 70. That has always been a difficult reception area. That was the original purpose of the translators on the west mesa, to pick up the El Paso stations and re-broadcast them with a clear line of sight to the east mesa. Many years ago channel 4 was re-broadcast on 7 and 9 was on 6. You may be getting some of the Juarez channels due to the slightly different angle and elevation of their towers. Actually there are more in Juarez that you did not mention such as the digital versions of channels 2, 32 and 56. If you have now found the digital translator for KVIA on RF41 that will help you during this dispute with the satellite service but I do not believe that reception of all of the major networks in HD is possible at your location.

Yep, I live on the east mesa. I unluckily happen to be sandwiched between areas of reception from the El Paso stations to the east and west. I am in the middle of the dead zone. I want to get KCWF-CA on channel 20; but I keep getting the channel 20 from Juarez. Is there any way to get KCWF or is the one from Juarez stronger and canceling the signal? I have reconstructed the antenna and will install/post results tomorrow.
post #1646 of 1741
Both KCWF-CA and the RF on 20 in Juarez are analog. I would think you would be seeing KCWF with interference bars from Juarez at your location. As KCWF is or was a translator for KDBC and they went bankrupt and are now managed by KTSM it would not surprise me if that translator is not even on the air anymore. According to this article http://mexdfmagazine.com/2013/03/10/adios-analog-mexican-tv-going-digital-finally/ the analogs in Juarez are scheduled to go off next month so if you can get anything else on RF 20 then it will be obvious. By 09/01/2015 all analog in the US is scheduled to end. I have wondered how many TV stations will upgrade their translators to digital among those who have not done so already. It is a bit difficult to get accurate information on the analog translators nowadays. TV Fool tends to list those who have applied for a construction permit or have a permit as yet unused as active. Right now the FCC web site is down due to the mess in Congress. Rabbit Ears http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php has the most accurate information on the digital translators which are actually in use and also show the ones which may come on line later in red.
I am glad you are enjoying your new found hobby with the TV antenna. I have been fascinated with it since my family moved from Florida where reception was easy to Las Cruces in the early 1970's.
post #1647 of 1741
Arti, If you are trying to do all this just to get ABC programming until the Direct TV dispute is settled I have another idea. If you have a laptop computer you could watch all the ABC shows through the internet, even past episodes. You could even hook your laptop to your TV if you have VGA (monitor) or other output and input connectors. I did this for my daughter who uses net flicks a lot. You can watch all Network shows this way.
post #1648 of 1741
Okay; thanks for all the help. I finally got KVIA on channel 41 (K41KY-D). TV fool is out of date; KOBG from Silver City went off the air in summer 2012. I don't think KCWF-CA is even on the air; I only get the Juarez stations. I have the antenna facing SW so I can get ABC, FOX, PBS, and NBC all at the same time. I am hoping 42 goes digital soon (KAEP-LP); they have a permit for a flash-cut to digital. Unfortunately, KVIA did not air This Week in HD again.
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Originally Posted by Mister B View Post

I am glad you are enjoying your new found hobby with the TV antenna. I have been fascinated with it since my family moved from Florida where reception was easy to Las Cruces in the early 1970's.

Well I have been experimenting with TV antennas since 2009. In 2009, I made a copper wire indoor antenna and got 22 and 14 on analog. I got a large 40-year old outdoor antenna in summer 2010; that was before KVIA reduced their power. Now, I just made another homemade outdoor antenna and I have real use for it since KVIA is blacked out on DirecTV. Hopefully, DirecTV will pay KVIA more so they can upgrade to HD recorded shows/commercials, get new set & graphics, and also upgrade their transmitter. It seems like only KFOX and KRWG are operating at the maximum 1000kW ERP.

Here is the new report for my location, the old one didn't have the right height calculation: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46ae72ed5189b6 Maybe I will get channel 9 if I buy a preamp. The extra 5 feet made the N.M. go up by 0.2 dB.
post #1649 of 1741
Well as some of us expressed, KVIA had no Dolby digital 5.1 sound last night. They did have there "new look". It is terrible, looks like it was designed by a child in kindergarten who is color blind. All blocks and in Red, white and black. The weather graphics were the worse I have seen anywhere in the country and still squeezed to the center. And there HUGH logo now flashes, like I'm not disturbed enough. What a Pile of junk ! Never did get a email from Rick or Elias. I would be embarrassed to tout the "new look" also They never mentioned them on air either. Guess I email Kevin Lovel but he doesn't usually respond either.
post #1650 of 1741
QAM in El Paso? I am getting the most basic Time Warner package installed next week. Although I am a ardent supporter of OTA reception it has not worked as well as hoped inside this new apartment. I drove to the TW office as their web site does not even mention the basic package and of course the service representative was clueless about any HD QAM channel. I am getting it mostly to watch the news as I watch almost everything else on Netflix anyway but it would be nice if the locals are available in HD. I did a channel scan at a friends house and picked up the locals in HD with the cable connected directly to his TV, but he has digital cable and internet so that does not necessarily prove that the locals will be available in HD with the most basic package. If any local member knows the answer to this question it would be appreciated.
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