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post #1651 of 1741
I have e-mailed Kevin Lovell at KVIA almost word for word plus some pretty harsh comments My post 1649. I did receive a replay that he instructed Elias to respond to me and copy him. Did this this morning but have now heard anything. See what happens. What do you guys think of their "new look" ?
Edited by FRANK43 - 10/15/13 at 5:27pm
post #1652 of 1741
The "new" look looks pretty good to me - In HD, blue - but always says DirecTv has been unable to renew its agreement with this station and has been forced to take it down.

Not worth trying to set up an antennae. For ABC programming its easy enough to go to ABC.com and switch to any other channel for news/ weather.

For the record, Kevin promptly replied no dice to me when I asked for a mother-may-I permission slip to get the network feed.
post #1653 of 1741
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Originally Posted by tcutty View Post

The "new" look looks pretty good to me - In HD, blue - but always says DirecTv has been unable to renew its agreement with this station and has been forced to take it down.

Not worth trying to set up an antennae. For ABC programming its easy enough to go to ABC.com and switch to any other channel for news/ weather.

For the record, Kevin promptly replied no dice to me when I asked for a mother-may-I permission slip to get the network feed.

Have you watched an entire KVIA news segment?
post #1654 of 1741
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Originally Posted by tcutty View Post

The "new" look looks pretty good to me - In HD, blue - but always says DirecTv has been unable to renew its agreement with this station and has been forced to take it down.

Not worth trying to set up an antennae.

Yes, I agree as well, I like the new look. The blocks look awesome; a nice way to tie into the new ABC World News theme that also uses blocks. You can tell it needs some work. Mainly the weather as Frank43 said. The blocks and the old, squeezed, graphics are very hard to see. It looks like the lines are doubled. The new intro is pretty good. I am a bit disappointed that they chose to keep the music. It is also odd that some times they use just a hint of blue. I think the whole weather graphics need an upgrade; they have been the same since around 2007. They also need to change their logo in the corner to the new ABC glassy design. They have a slightly older logo; but only in the corner of the screen, on their mics and paper backgrounds, they have the new logo.

Overall, it is a much needed upgrade but feels like a 1/2 upgrade since the music and most parts (banners and weather) look the same.

I think the issue with KVIA is that they have spread themselves too thin. They have so many newscasts, plus 4 digital subchannels; no wonder they want more $$$ from DirecTV. Looking back, when Gary Warner was at the station, it was in it's heyday. I think KVIA needs to pull back a little so they will have enough people and money to stay ahead in technology. Having SD recording equipment is pretty sad considering both local PBS stations air HD commercials all the time.
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Originally Posted by tcutty View Post

For the record, Kevin promptly replied no dice to me when I asked for a mother-may-I permission slip to get the network feed.

So did you actually ask KVIA for permission to get distant network stations (DNS) from DirecTV??? Local stations usually say no. If you do not get any OTA reception and can prove it, they may grant you permission. But I think you have to pay for a professional to come out to your house and use professional equipment to measure TV signals at your house.

I am going to email Elias and ask when they are going to get an equipment upgrade.
post #1655 of 1741
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Originally Posted by Mister B View Post

QAM in El Paso? I am getting the most basic Time Warner package installed next week. Although I am a ardent supporter of OTA reception it has not worked as well as hoped inside this new apartment. I drove to the TW office as their web site does not even mention the basic package and of course the service representative was clueless about any HD QAM channel. I am getting it mostly to watch the news as I watch almost everything else on Netflix anyway but it would be nice if the locals are available in HD. I did a channel scan at a friends house and picked up the locals in HD with the cable connected directly to his TV, but he has digital cable and internet so that does not necessarily prove that the locals will be available in HD with the most basic package. If any local member knows the answer to this question it would be appreciated.

Basic cable is okay. You get everything in 16:9. The picture is good. Whether you can call it HD, who knows. With all the sub-channels, you can barely call OTA HD. Some syndicated shows on KDBC (4.1) come stretched, or you can change your TVs aspect to 4:3 to see it better. Don't know why that happens. Switch to OTA and the shows are in 16:9. A few of the basic channels require a digital box. The channels are the government channels, a couple of the Spanish-language channels, and supposedly a couple shopping channels. I don't watch any of those so refused the box (it's going to cost you 99 cents per month soon).

I only keep basic because it is bundles with my internet and they gave me a "deal" to keep it. Once KVIA gets their act in order and provides the CW in 16:9 (non-stretched) and TWC tries to bump prices, I'll drop it completely.
post #1656 of 1741
MReed: Thanks for the information. I hope this will be the situation for myself also. The only difference between your situation and mine is that I will not be taking the internet from TW either. The at&t service meets my needs at this time. I have seen cable guys open up the connection box here at the apartments and noticed there are some lines with cylindrical traps on them. The only complication would be if this trap cuts out the QAM channels also. I will report back next week.
post #1657 of 1741
Forgot to mention, besides getting the 16:9 channels (KDBC 4.1, KVIA 7.1, KTSM, 9.1, KFOX 14.1, etc.) on basic cable, you also get the old analog versions (KDBC 4, KVIA 6, KTSM 10, KFOX 8, etc.).
post #1658 of 1741
For those of you missing KVIA on DirectTV: In the paper this morning Kevin Lovell complained about the negotiations. He also stated that "Every distributor has had this kind of impasse before and in every case it has been resolved. The longest I have ever heard of is a month. I hope we get resolved sooner than that."

Wow, he must have very poor memory. HE kept the CW off TWC from October to mid-May their first season (when UPN and WB merged) because TWC wouldn't grant him all the sub-channels he wanted. We got only the last two or three weeks of that season because it took so long to resolve. Good luck DirectTV subscribers.
Edited by mreedelp - 10/16/13 at 2:45pm
post #1659 of 1741
I peeked at ABC world News and Artie is right they use the blocks also. I always watch NBC News still not impressed. Dopler Dave needs to get out of the way so we can see the daily and 7 day forecasts. He moves around way to much. Still no Dolby! Peeked at Nashville. Still no e-mail reply from Elias either. I did notice on the Forwarded e-mail from Kevin Lovell that Eilias' e-mail address is different. it goes to eliasventanilla@aol.com, I guess they don't even use @kvia.com for there internal communications. He may never see it.
Edited by FRANK43 - 10/17/13 at 7:45am
post #1660 of 1741
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Originally Posted by mreedelp View Post

For those of you missing KVIA on DirectTV: In the paper this morning Kevin Lovell complained about the negotiations. He also stated that "Every distributor has had this kind of impasse before and in every case it has been resolved. The longest I have ever heard of is a month. I hope we get resolved sooner than that."

Wow, he must have very poor memory. HE kept the CW off TWC from October to mid-May their first season (when UPN and WB merged) because TWC wouldn't grant him all the sub-channels he wanted. We got only the last two or three weeks of that season because it took so long to resolve. Good luck DirectTV subscribers.



Probably be settled by November, as sweeps month begins Oct 31; so he would be shooting self (not a first for KVIA) to keep this going. I don't how many people watch via DirecTv, but at some point KVIAs advertisers will recognize they are getting a smaller audience for the same buck. Most people either can't or won't bother with OTA, that's one reason they subscribe to a service provider. For example, with 4 TVs, OTA is a pain in the arse and DirecTv doesn't DVR OTA (to my knowledge) like the old Dish recievers.

KVIA doesn't seem to get they don't have NFL games, like channels 4 and 9, so that is why he doesn't have a bargaining chip. CBS/ TW was settled, coincidentally just before the season started as TW didn't want to lose football fans to DirecTv.
Network programs (both ABC and CW) are available elsewhere; and in the realm of the universe local programming is pretty worthless and substitutes are available on other channels.
post #1661 of 1741
I guess Kevin Lovell doesn't know what is going on at the station where he is the GM since he doesn't give me an answer. See below e-mail form today.

Elias,
Please write a response to this gentleman.
Thanks,
Kevin

Original Message
From: Frank Hoegler [mailto:fhoegler@elp.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:38 PM
To: Kevin Lovell
Subject: Re: FW: Upgrade


Hi Mr Lovell,

As of 12PM October 17th I have not heard anything from Elias. Maybe it is
because you sent the e-mail to his aol account.

Frank

On 10/15/2013 11:27 AM, Kevin Lovell wrote:
> Elias,
> Would you please respond to Mr. Hoegler's inquiry? Copy me on the reply.
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
>
Original Message
> From: Frank Hoegler [mailto:fhoegler@elp.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:15 AM
> To: Kevin Lovell
> Subject: Upgrade
>
> Hi Mr. Lovell,
>
> I'm sending this to you since neither Rick Cabrerra nor Elias (your
> station
> engineer) have responded to my e-mails of a week or so ago about why
> the new console is not operational as of October 9 2013.
>
> Response from Elias August 15 2013:
>
> Mr.
> Hoegler,
>
> We have a tentative date of October 3,2013; by this date we should be
> passing 5.1 sorround (When available). The extension of the line up on
> the electronic guide will only be available for 12 hours in advance.
> Not sure exactly why, but perhaps is to afford last minute changes to
programming.
>
> Elias
>
>
> Well as some of us expressed on the El Paso avs.com forum, KVIA had no
> Dolby digital 5.1 sound last night during Castle. They did have there "new
look".
> It is terrible,
post #1662 of 1741
Oh, great, I have yet another rant about KVIA. I am currently watching the 6pm news and it appears they have lost ALL abilities to record HD outside of the studio. That means all "field" reports and news stories are in awful SD. They don't even have sidebars. I think a piece of their equipment broke down. On a minor good note, it appears they have gotten new microphones for use outside of the studio. I also emailed Elilas on Tuesday and have not heard anything back. KVIA really needs to get their act together and fix their technology issues instead of making more newscasts like the 9pm newscast on the CW. If they don't invest money now, they may be beyond the point of no return. They will start to lose advertisers and go bankrupt like the other El Paso stations (except KFOX, and I don't know if KTSM went bankrupt).
post #1663 of 1741
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Originally Posted by artiepenguin View Post

Oh, great, I have yet another rant about KVIA. I am currently watching the 6pm news and it appears they have lost ALL abilities to record HD outside of the studio. That means all "field" reports and news stories are in awful SD. They don't even have sidebars. I think a piece of their equipment broke down. On a minor good note, it appears they have gotten new microphones for use outside of the studio. I also emailed Elilas on Tuesday and have not heard anything back. KVIA really needs to get their act together and fix their technology issues instead of making more newscasts like the 9pm newscast on the CW. If they don't invest money now, they may be beyond the point of no return. They will start to lose advertisers and go bankrupt like the other El Paso stations (except KFOX, and I don't know if KTSM went bankrupt).

+1 KDBC sale is pending to Sinclair, who owns KFOX and KTSM sale is pending to Nexstar.
post #1664 of 1741
That sale of KDBC to Sinclair have already been closed, consummated Oct. 1. The KTSM one to Nexstar is still waiting for the greenlight to the FCC.

No telling when KDBC & KFOX will merge.
post #1665 of 1741
Well, I finally got a reply from Elias. Here is the message he sent me.
Quote:
We had indicated a tentative date of October 3 as the date to launch our new equipment that will allow us to air syndicated programs in HD, as well as 5.1 audio on ABC network programming. (When available) On October 2, a decision was made to delay the launch due to unforeseen technical problems that required more staffing. These problems are being resolved and new staff being added and trained.
Although other local stations have syndicated programs in HD, KVIA's new operation model of a central-master control at a remote location adds more technical and operational challenges.
The delay is not related to the Direct Tv negotiations.

We have a new tentative launch date of December 6, in the meantime we continue to work with vendors and new staff to launch on the new date.

We are aslo working on improving our signal in Las Cruces, K41 has been displaced by a station in Mexico, so we are moving and adding equipment to improve Las Cruces Over-the-air signal. You should see these improvements in the next 4 weeks.

Thank you watching KVIA and the El Paso CWs,
Elias
post #1666 of 1741
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Originally Posted by artiepenguin View Post

Well, I finally got a reply from Elias. Here is the message he sent me.

I got a reply also: In our last correspondence I had indicated a tentative date of October 3 as the date to launch our new equipment that will allow us to air syndicated programs in HD, as well as 5.1 audio on ABC network programming. On October 2, a decision was made to delay the launch due to unforeseen technical problems that required more staffing. These problems are being resolved and new staff being added and trained.
Although other local stations have syndicated programs in HD, KVIA's new operation model of a central-master control at a remote location adds more technical and operational challenges.

We have a new tentative launch date of December 6, 2013, in the meantime we continue to work with vendors and new staff to launch on the new date.

Thank you for continuing to watch KVIA and the El Paso CW

Elias
post #1667 of 1741
Well, it appears that KVIA has resumed their HD tests. They aired GMA in HD again! Yeah! Although, the audio was really low. They still have only one recorder; so they didn't air This Week in HD. They have only one month; let's hope they meet their goal.

On another note, I hooked up an amp to my antenna and still did not get KTSM. I wonder if it is even possible. I get all the Spanish stations 5, 11, 20, and 44. Those stations still aren't on TV fool so I can't compare the signal strength at my location to KTSM. I just need KTSM and KDBC. KDBC is preferred.

I would also like some suggestions on good amps with gains over 10dB. I purchased this item (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0039WTXK4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and it was only a 10dB gain; did not do too much.

Any help would be appreciated. Link to my updated TV fool report: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46ae8614b1842b
post #1668 of 1741
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Originally Posted by artiepenguin View Post

Well, it appears that KVIA has resumed their HD tests. They aired GMA in HD again! Yeah! Although, the audio was really low. They still have only one recorder; so they didn't air This Week in HD. They have only one month; let's hope they meet their goal.

On another note, I hooked up an amp to my antenna and still did not get KTSM. I wonder if it is even possible. I get all the Spanish stations 5, 11, 20, and 44. Those stations still aren't on TV fool so I can't compare the signal strength at my location to KTSM. I just need KTSM and KDBC. KDBC is preferred.

I would also like some suggestions on good amps with gains over 10dB. I purchased this item (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0039WTXK4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and it was only a 10dB gain; did not do too much.

Any help would be appreciated. Link to my updated TV fool report: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46ae8614b1842b

Noticed that also. No dolby 5.1 on the Prime time shows though, just stereo.
post #1669 of 1741
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Originally Posted by artiepenguin View Post

On another note, I hooked up an amp to my antenna and still did not get KTSM. I wonder if it is even possible. I get all the Spanish stations 5, 11, 20, and 44. Those stations still aren't on TV fool so I can't compare the signal strength at my location to KTSM. I just need KTSM and KDBC. KDBC is preferred.

I would also like some suggestions on good amps with gains over 10dB. I purchased this item (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0039WTXK4/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and it was only a 10dB gain; did not do too much.

Arti: That amplifier you have is identical to one I used for several years from RS. It was useful when I lived in Hatch. All an amplifier can do is compensate for the loss on the lead in cable and possibly have a better S/N ratio than your tuner. I have never seen an amp take a signal from undetectable to a stable useful signal. I think the reason you can get some of the Juarez stations is their slightly different angle and elevation from your location. I hate to be skeptical, but I do not think you are ever going to get KDBC and KTSM directly from Ranger peak unless they should make some major changes on their end.
As you noted once that you can get one of the analog translators from the mountain that towers above Caballo Lake, have you tried for either KOB on channel 20 or KRQE on RF 35? It is a very long shot, but I would turn my antenna that direction just for fun. Of course right now analog 20 in Juarez is likely to prevent any other weak signal but the Juarez analogs are supposed to go off later this month. It is a shame all of the El Paso stations do not provide translators for your part of Las Cruces. The Albuquerque channels have an extensive network all over New Mexico, but of course they would be infringing on the El Paso DMA in Dona Ana county. I was surprised that at one time that Spanish station you get on RF 42 was a repeater of KOB. Best of luck, it is fun.
post #1670 of 1741
Hi guys, I use to live in el paso and might be going back, I have just read all the posts and have a questions, I have Directv and a am21 for the subs, I was just wondering if the CW is in HD OTA? or is it still stretched? Is KVIA still off of DTV?
post #1671 of 1741
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Originally Posted by merchione View Post

I was just wondering if the CW is in HD OTA? or is it still stretched?

The CW on channel 7-2 is still stretched and in very low resolution SD when captured OTA.
post #1672 of 1741
WOW! I left El Paso about 3 years ago and KVIA was promising CW will be in HD "soon". Crazy still not available at the end of 2013.
post #1673 of 1741
I Have heard that the CW is HD on cable although I have never seen it in primetime. Actually, to be more precise, KVIA squeezes the CW into a 4:3 frame and then we can "stretch" it out into a 16:9 picture using the aspect ratio setting on our TV or box. This is not a bad strategy if one is limited to SD (that is how widescreen DVD's work) although they could set a broadcast "flag" that would indicate the picture is widescreen and we would not have to be constantly changing the aspect ratio. On every set I have had if I change the aspect ratio for one sub-channel, it changes it for all and I would rather not watch the others "stretched". KCOS does the same thing with their educational channel on 13-2 even with the 4:3 shows which makes them have double sidebars if one does not use the stretch feature. However, to my eye, 7-2 is the lowest resolution sub-channel in El Paso with the possible exception of the weather on 7-3. Even the reruns on 14-2's Retro channel look sharper to me.
If you have been gone three years, I would say the only major improvement in OTA here is that all of the Juarez stations are now digital and mostly HD. XHJUB (56.1) has many recent US shows in HD and if you are not fluent in Spanish just use the alternate audio setting to hear it in the original English language. There are also some very good music videos in both English and Spanish on XEJ's 5-2 which is in HD.
post #1674 of 1741
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Originally Posted by merchione View Post

WOW! I left El Paso about 3 years ago and KVIA was promising CW will be in HD "soon". Crazy still not available at the end of 2013.

CW on KVIA will probably never be in HD OTA. They don't have the bandwidth, They Barely can fit the 4 channels now. Most has to be allocated to 7-1 for HD. They have been in the process for 2 years installing a new console which will let them record in HD and 5.1 Dolby, that right they are still in stereo and some programs like good morning America weekend are still side barred. It is supposed to operational December 6, but we have been promised before. Their signal is the weakest in town.

Chanel 4 KDBC has been sold twice, once to KTSM and now to Sinclair, maybe some quality improvement there soon I hope. KFOX was also sold to Sinclair. KTSM is also for sale.

4,7,9 are terrible with complying with the "calm Act" and providing quality PSIP guide data.

CW may be available in HD through Dish or Direct as the probably can get it from another source other than OTA locally.
post #1675 of 1741
Nothing Saturday morning on GMA in HD. KVIA said Dec 6th, will have the new console running. Wishful thinking, I think
post #1676 of 1741
I have no signal on KFOX TV, 3 TVs 2 antennas, re-scan, etc.. are they are seriously down on Sunday and with a Cowboys game?
post #1677 of 1741
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

I have no signal on KFOX TV, 3 TVs 2 antennas, re-scan, etc.. are they are seriously down on Sunday and with a Cowboys game?

Me either, they have been off both OTA and Dish network since I got up this morning at 6am. A friend has it on TWC and another has it on ATT uverse.
post #1678 of 1741
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

I have no signal on KFOX TV, 3 TVs 2 antennas, re-scan, etc.. are they are seriously down on Sunday and with a Cowboys game?

It was on DirecTV the entire cowboy game
post #1679 of 1741
I guess their transmitter is/was down (didn't check this morning), no news on their webpage about it..
post #1680 of 1741
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

I guess their transmitter is/was down (didn't check this morning), no news on their webpage about it..

Still not on OTA or Dish Network Satellite.

People to email: nlvillalobos@sbgtv.com emailed her yesterday but no response, usually do get one though.

Phone: 915-833-8585 Yesterday it was a menu and there was a Engineering selection but no one answered Bruno Cruz is Engineer but I don't have email for him
Edited by FRANK43 - 11/25/13 at 8:55am
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