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post #61 of 664
Other posters from Korea mentioned they just swapped the hard disk for a 120GB model and it worked without any special formatting - the system did it by itself. So most likely on this PVR the OS and everything is in ROM/Flash memory!
post #62 of 664
I wish somebody could confirm that.
post #63 of 664
Were just waiting for these guys here who just bought one to try swapping the drive out. Don't wait for the warranty - you can do it without anyone knowing, you already opened the unit up!
post #64 of 664
Maybe we don't know where to look for confirmation. ?!?

Nothing on Google, but a lot of forums-based sites don't get indexed, you know.

Also, if it's really a simple pull-and-put, you can confirm in 10 mins. or so. I never fear my warranty on those kinds of tests, because I know I won't blow up the box.
post #65 of 664
Does anyone in the U.S. or Korea know what two chips are behind those aluminum heatsinks?

Also, could someone possibly take a few screenshots of the graphics / UI and recording screens for the product? What sort of information do you see in the guide? What sort of options does one get when setting manual timers?
post #66 of 664
I can confirm that 80G Hard disk be replaced with 120G hard.
just take out power cord, IDE cable and remount 120G Hard .
Insert power cord and IDE cable .
finally tighten screw.
that's it.
when you power up, you will see your hard capacity increased 12 + hours instantly.

Very very veeeeeeeeeeeeeery simple.

Screw driver is all needed tool .
you can finish this within 5 min.

You can swap Hard disk any brand .
5400rpm one is salso O.K.

some peoplein Korea swaped to IBM, Samsung 5400rpm 120G.
they say no problem.
post #67 of 664
How about a bigger than 120GB hard drive? For example will the HDR230 support a Western Digital 200GB or 250GB drive? That would give 20-25 hours! Or does the HDR230 have the 132GB size limit like older PC HDD controllers?
post #68 of 664
Okay. A 7200 RPM 120 GB drive is like what? $100, mail order? Come on, somebody--try it already ;).

-- Mike Scott
post #69 of 664
hmmmm . . . the ability to swap drives is interesting. If its not too complicated of a process then you cna just store multiple drives with things you want to keep archived.
post #70 of 664
If we can just swap a new, larger drive does it need to be formatted some how or do we just put an unformatted factory drive in?
post #71 of 664
Per a request, I'm posting a few pictures here of some of the menus and on-screen displays...

This first one is the screen for setting a reserve recording manually. Since none of the local stations are providing program information via PSIP, the manual set option is the one that will need to be used. Note that one time or repeating recordings are possible.
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post #72 of 664
Next attachment is a picture of the reserved recording list -- this includes both programs already recorded and ones that are set to record in the future. A couple of items to note:

1. Time remaining indicator appears in both this and on the previous screen shot.

2. Program titles would presumably appear automatically if provided via PSIP by local station -- otherwise, they can be manually added once a program is recorded.
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post #73 of 664
Next is the menu display for setting the clock -- both manual and automatic setting are available, providing a good workaround to a problem experienced by some Samsung SIR-T165 owners. This also shows the general menu structure of the Zenith.
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post #74 of 664
And finally, the station info display -- which shows the transmitted video format (aspect ratio and scanning rate), audio information, channel information, and program title (if it were supplied by the station).
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post #75 of 664
Here are the internal pictures of the HDR230. These are same as I posted before but these are attachments and are a little smaller (the inline pictures were killing my home web server.) For full sized pictures see http://jeffshome.net/Zenithhdr230/pictures.htm

Main motherboard
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Motherboard side view
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Motherboard other side
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power supply and hard disk
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close up of power supply
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hard disk drive
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close up of hard disk label
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back of unit with jacks
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remote control
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post #84 of 664
Can you remove the original drive and read it on a PC? If so then this may allow a roundabout way of archiving.

Jay
post #85 of 664
It couldn't have been easier!

After looking at Jeff's pictures, I decided to give it a shot. I already had a Western Digital 120 GB 5400 RPM drive that was a backup drive on my home network, formatted in NTFS. I took the cover off the HDR230 with no problem, disconnected the ribbon and power cords to the original drive and connected them to the 120 GB drive, then turned the power on expecting a lengthy delay for formatting or something. Nope! It just started right up and showed the last channel it had been tuned to. While fooling around with the remote, I got a prompt to reset the clock. So I reset it. Then I checked the "reservations list" and saw that it now says 12 hours 36 minutes available (originally it said 8 hours 14 minutes). [note: set the hard drive jumpers for "cable select"]

I've tried timeshift functions and I'm now doing a short timed recording. It appears to work like a champ. In a few minutes, I'll physically remove the original drive and secure the 120 GB drive. Why Zenith didn't just use a 120 GB drive, I don't know. For a thousand dollar machine, you might as well have as much capacity as possible.

I'll post further info if I run into any glitches. I'm going to save the original drive unchanged for a while.
post #86 of 664
Wooohooo!!!! Nice job.

Did you do a fresh NTFS format to wipe the 120GB drive before you put it in the HDR230? It's hard to believe it 's that easy. If it didn't seem to reformat the drive it must already use NTFS. The next test is to see if it can handle a drive bigger than 120GB.
post #87 of 664
Thanks Bill. Placed my order today. Who's gonna try half a terabyte?

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Originally posted by BillJulyan
It couldn't have been easier!

After looking at Jeff's pictures, I decided to give it a shot. I already had a Western Digital 120 GB 5400 RPM drive that was a backup drive on my home network, formatted in NTFS. I took the cover off the HDR230 with no problem, disconnected the ribbon and power cords to the original drive and connected them to the 120 GB drive, then turned the power on expecting a lengthy delay for formatting or something. Nope! It just started right up and showed the last channel it had been tuned to. While fooling around with the remote, I got a prompt to reset the clock. So I reset it. Then I checked the "reservations list" and saw that it now says 12 hours 36 minutes available (originally it said 8 hours 14 minutes). [note: set the hard drive jumpers for "cable select"]

I've tried timeshift functions and I'm now doing a short timed recording. It appears to work like a champ. In a few minutes, I'll physically remove the original drive and secure the 120 GB drive. Why Zenith didn't just use a 120 GB drive, I don't know. For a thousand dollar machine, you might as well have as much capacity as possible.

I'll post further info if I run into any glitches. I'm going to save the original drive unchanged for a while.
post #88 of 664
Next try the Western Digital 250GB drive - thats the biggest ATA drive available right now! If it works, you would have 25+ hours of storage.
post #89 of 664
I'm glad my pictures prompted someone to give upgrading the disk drive a try. I've glad it was so easy. But I think the jump from 8 hours to 12 hours is rather small. Let's hope someone tries a 160 gig or 200 gig drive and it works as easily. Or even better someone finds a way to add a 160 or 200 to the 80 -- although I noticed mounting a second drive is going to be tight.

I found a good price on a 175 gig at CompUSA of $109.

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175GB, 7200RPM, Internal Ultra/ATA EIDE Hard Drive
In-Store Price: $129.99
after rebate(s)*
Internet Price: $109.99
after rebate(s)*
Manufacturer: Western Digital
Mfg Part #: WD1750BBRTL
post #90 of 664
No way to read it in a pc.
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