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post #301 of 363
Thanks Cliff
post #302 of 363
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Originally posted by rcliff
Playback with VLC is much better than it was with previous versions but still drops frames even on a G5. Output via firewire to a firewire equipped TV works much better.
Though it is not an elegant solution, a Samsung T165 would provide a hardware decode via Firewire from the Mac using DVI to the display from the Samsung T165. I believe it has digital audio out. At some point in the future when the enabling firmware is released, the 6200 should be able to provide the hardware decode. In the meantime, an alternative decode solution is required.



Has anyone else tried Cellulo using the latest mplayer binary and compared it to Mplayer for Mac OSX?
post #303 of 363
Picked up a Best Buy Samsung T165 closeout special for $89. It has a build date of November 2002. I thought the playback though Firewire wasn't as good as MyHD, VLC or Mplayer. Does anyone know whether the newer builds of the T165 have better hardware? Has anyone with an older build found the firmware update to improve playback through Firewire?

In a T165 thread, there was discussion about a October 2003 firmware release and a Novemebr 2003 firmware release. Forum members appeared to prefer the Novmber 2003 release. Samsung sent me the October 2003 release. Just my luck. I am not doing anything with it yet.

BTW, VirtualDVHS recognizes the T165 on channel 0. The T165 can control VirtualDVHS from the on screen menu.
post #304 of 363
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Originally posted by Killroy
How did/do you update the firmware in the 165? Do you still have th update? Anyway you can post it? I would love to see if it fixes a few of my quirks....
I haven't applied the update yet because of the date issue. Please see this thread for more details. I have version 112 of the firmware and that, as I understand, is ancient. My model was a display model that wasn't in BB inventory per computer lookup.
post #305 of 363
I was able to get VirtualDVHS working with my Mits TV/Promise Module this morning.

I installed a fresh copy of Panther on a new hard drive, loaded the updates, and then installed the FireWireSDK 18. I fired up VirtualDVHS and the TV immediatly poped up a dialog box asking if I wanted to add the "DVCR". That's the first time the TV has acknowleged the Mac's existance in the three weeks since the Promise Module was installed.

I can iniate a recording from the TV remote control or from VirtualDVHS but I cannot stop the recording with the TV remote. Playback through the TV is working and I can play, pause, and stop the playback with the TV remote. I can even play back HiPix .ts files that I have changed the extension on. I havn't needed the AVCBrowser for any operations with the TV so far. The Promise Module seems to like it's video in and out on channel 1.

I appreciate all the support and suggestions I've received from other forum members. In the end, a fresh OS install turned out to be the most expedient solution to my recording problems.

I still have issues to deal with but this is a GIANT leap foreward.
post #306 of 363
THis is really a MAc question, rather than one emphasizing HDTV recorders

New to Mac systems, but familiar with Windows
Acquired an old G4 and installed 10.3 to a clean HD, installed it to a 5gb partition, with the other 75GB in another ppartition for the large files produced by this - the files from the Firewire are going into a "Video" folder on this larger partition

Followed the instructions, and got it recording with a Shaw 6200

Now the problem is sharing this "Video" folder, which is on the second partition - I want to play the files from an XP machine which is part of an HTPC

I have configured the basic share settings in 10.3, and can see the "user's" folders from XP - however the user folders are on the first (small) partition

I have tried all variations of "drag-n-drop" and other options to allow sharing; but I am unable to achieve this unless I copy the "video" folder over to the smaller partition

If I could get to the Samba settings, I assume I could fix this problem; or is there any other way to do this? - ideally without having to re-install and put everything into a single large partition

Suggestions or a link appreciated
I didn't find what I need in the basic 10.3 help area

Thanx
JEff
post #307 of 363
If you are OK with getting down into the unix side of MacOS X, you can edit /etc/smb.conf and add a new "share point" of whatever volume/folder you want. Here is what I added to the end of my smb.conf file to share a specific folder.

[roku]
path = /Users/foobar/Roku
public = yes
only guest = no
writable = no
printable = no

You can put whatever you want in path.
post #308 of 363
Thanks for quick reply
I have used the smb.conf file with Fedora, which I have set up on one computer - also not familiar with Linux, but what you suggest, I should be able to get working
Will work on this in next day or so, may need to get back to you
Jeff

EDIT:
Bit embarassing, but I cant find the smb.conf or anything that contains smb or samba, using "Find"
Running the (non-server) version of 10.3, updated to latest
Any further help to get me started - where should I find or create this file?
Thanks
post #309 of 363
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Originally posted by jeffnoone
EDIT:
Bit embarassing, but I cant find the smb.conf or anything that contains smb or samba, using "Find"
Running the (non-server) version of 10.3, updated to latest
Any further help to get me started - where should I find or create this file?
Thanks
Find will not show invisible files by default. Use the the visibility option to find it. Alternatively if you have BBEdit you can just use open hidden.
post #310 of 363
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Originally posted by rcliff
... if you have BBEdit you can just use open hidden.
This is what I would definitely recommend if you have BBEdit. Otherwise you could use Terminal to find and edit the file. Launch Terminal.app from your Utilities folder. Type 'cd /etc/' to change to the 'etc' directory. Type 'ls -l' to get a listing of the contents and you should see smb.conf. Now you can use 'vi' or some other text editor to view and change the contents of the file. To read more about using vi just type 'man vi' at the command prompt. Type 'vi smb.conf' to load the configuration file.

But like I said earlier, you can skip all this if you own BBEdit.
post #311 of 363
Jeff,

Locate and launch the terminal app (/applications/utilities/terminal). This is essentially a unix style console tcsh or tbsh shell (I think Panthr defaults to a bsh shell). navigate to the etc directory by typing cd /etc and then type ls smb* to see if smb.conf is there. Make a copy by typing cp smb.conf smb.conf-cpy , and then use your favorite unix editor vi, emacs, etc. to edit the file (the copy is just a backup should something go wrong). If you need help with the file format type man smb.conf for the man pages. If your not familiar with unix or unix editors you might want to just make all the hidden directories visible and use finder to navigate from your main directory to etc and edit the file with textedit (bbedit-lite also has the ability to edit hidden files via the open hidden menu option).
post #312 of 363
You can also download a 30 day fully functional trial of BBEdit. Warning, once you've used it there's no going back so get ready to pony up after the 30 days. :p
post #313 of 363
I posted this in another thread (in my sig) but thought you all would be interested.

I've resurrected an old beige G3 266 and installed Panther (not easily since it's not supported) and it's working great with VirtualDVHS. Flawless firewire recording and playback! It is now instantly one of my core home theater components. Not bad for a 6 year old and nearly worthless beige box.
post #314 of 363
Check out www.slimdevices.com for a great way to use that old Powerbook as part of your home theater.

I am using one as an MP3 server and it works great!
post #315 of 363
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Originally posted by Killroy
Anyone know if you are able to record from two different STB's using VirtualDVHS at the same time??? I already have a t-165 and I am hoping that the 1394 ports on my 3250HD will be activated later today...

So I would love to know if I will be able to record from each of these at the same time...I guess that they would have to be on different channels on the firewire bus but I can't see why that would be a problem...
I was able to record 4 simultaneous HD streams earlier this morning on a beige G3. I also managed to get Tivo's software running on the machine for scheduling. Recording 2 should be a piece of cake ;)
post #316 of 363
Cliff,

Sorry for my ignorance, but what is tivo software, how does it work, and are you running it on your mac?

Thanks
post #317 of 363
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Originally posted by warr
Cliff,

Sorry for my ignorance, but what is tivo software, how does it work, and are you running it on your mac?

Thanks
Check the date.

P.S. remove the "kick me" sign from your back...
post #318 of 363
Oh, sooooo gullible :D
post #319 of 363
OK, I had my fun :) Sorry to those that didn't get it, but I thought the Tivo running on a Mac was a dead giveaway. I wish it was true though...
post #320 of 363
Sorry! I thought 4 streams was crazy ;)
post #321 of 363
I'm surprised you guys thought I was serious. April Fools! LOL!
post #322 of 363
Ok, I admit, yes my hopes were up. Instead I'm laughing my ass off!!!

Good one!!!!!

mark
post #323 of 363
Quote:
Originally posted by rcliff
Sorry! I thought 4 streams was crazy ;)
I don't think it is completely crazy, although finding four programs worth recording in one day, let alone all at the same time, might be crazy. Note that the bandwidth over FireWire needed for each would be about 20 Mbps. Even the slower FireWire in use today has 200 Mbps available and that is isochronous traffic so I don't think it has the sort of overhead you get with asynchronous traffic you get with something like gigabit ethernet. You would need adequate buffers but I see nothing unbelievable about 4 simultaneous streams.

A more serious issue would be the bandwidth available to write to a hard drive. Again I believe the raw numbers are there. You would need 10 MBytes per second for 4 streams each rated at 20 megabits per second. I think current drives are rated in the area of 50 MBps.

That leaves the remaining question of user interface. Does Apple's VirtualDVHS have a way for the user to select more than one source at a time? I suppose if you could create an instance of the recorder pane for each channel you want that might work. However, I think it is safe to say that VirtualDVHS was not designed with anything so extravagent in mind.

Consider the not so distant future when all sets larger than 36" include an ATSC tuner and many might have a FireWire interface. If you had three or more sets in your house all connected with FireWire it might be downright economical to have a Mac that could record and play back in any combination.

p.s. I did assume it was an April Fool's joke.
post #324 of 363
Running Linux-based TiVo software on a Unix-based Mac does not seem so far-fetched.
post #325 of 363
You might be able to make two copies of VirtualDVHS and run them at the same time to capture different streams.
post #326 of 363
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Originally posted by bwooster
You might be able to make two copies of VirtualDVHS and run them at the same time to capture different streams.
Yep, I used the original SDK and the customized version of VirtualDVHS to record two streams this morning at the same time. One was an SD stream from the 6200 and the other was an upconverted HD stream from the T165. On AVC Browser, the T165 required channel 0 and the 6200 accepted channel 1. I played back both files using VLC.

Interestingly, when trying to play a file back thru the T165 while the 6200 was still connected, I instead saw real-time 6200 content. If I changed channel on the 6200, the picture would freeze. However, if I clicked on pause and play again, I would see the content from the changed 6200 channel. All this happened while using the instance of VirtualDVHS for the T165.

So, I had two instances of VirtualDVHS running and two separate AVC Browser device windows to make this happen.

Today is April 2nd, btw.
post #327 of 363
Hey guys quick question.

Is it possible to run virtualDVHS on a G3 233 if I am just using it to record by firewire input? I would be playing it back on another HTPC. I know someone has a G3 266 with 192mb of ram just for recording purposes.
post #328 of 363
Quote:
Originally posted by jsb_hburg
Yep, I used the original SDK and the customized version of VirtualDVHS to record two streams this morning at the same time. One was an SD stream from the 6200 and the other was an upconverted HD stream from the T165. On AVC Browser, the T165 required channel 0 and the 6200 accepted channel 1. I played back both files using VLC.

Interestingly, when trying to play a file back thru the T165 while the 6200 was still connected, I instead saw real-time 6200 content. If I changed channel on the 6200, the picture would freeze. However, if I clicked on pause and play again, I would see the content from the changed 6200 channel. All this happened while using the instance of VirtualDVHS for the T165.

So, I had two instances of VirtualDVHS running and two separate AVC Browser device windows to make this happen.

Today is April 2nd, btw.
Very cool!
post #329 of 363
Quote:
Originally posted by Budget_HT
Running Linux-based TiVo software on a Unix-based Mac does not seem so far-fetched.
No chance it will happen. Even if you could somehow get it running, Tivo is useless without connecting to the Tivo service. Each Tivo has a proprietary chip on the board that stores its serial number used for the connection.
post #330 of 363
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Originally posted by stgdz
Hey guys quick question.

Is it possible to run virtualDVHS on a G3 233 if I am just using it to record by firewire input? I would be playing it back on another HTPC. I know someone has a G3 266 with 192mb of ram just for recording purposes.
I'm running ir without a problem on a beige G3 266 with 256MB. The biggest trick is getting Panther to run on these older unsupported machines.
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