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post #241 of 4216
I'm hoping the new Motorola 6200 will have hard drives available soon for PVR over cable. Then, I could record local stations as well. Right now I have D* with Tivo and cable. I just have basic D* and Comcast with HD. I'd like to condense to one provider. Perferably Comcast for local HD channels - assuming they can get an agreement with WPTA soon.
post #242 of 4216
DialItUp,

One thing you might want to consider.

How many HD channels does Comcast carry other than locals? Just asking because I'm not sure how many they have. HD locals are a non-issue if you live in Ft. Wayne as you can get then OTA fairly easily, especially WPTA as they are transmitting at the highest power. Other than FOX (480p currently, potentially 720p late fall/early winter, at least at a national level) which hardly anyone can receive and they also have no intentions of boosting their signal strength anytime soon. Could be years based on the e-mails they have sent me.

Although if your biggest factor in choosing a provider is the ability to time shift then hopefully Comcast will have a HD PVR soon for you. The HD Tivo soon to come out for D* will have dual D* tuners and supposedly dual OTA tuners as well, but the price is rumored to be around 1k. Kinda salty unless they offer a deal for a 1 year service commitment or something to make the price more realistic.

Let us know how Comcast HD channels look.

Jason
post #243 of 4216
As much as it's going to kill me, I'm going to wait it out at least a month until I buy the new HDTivo from D*. My guess is they will have a promo for the new dish, locals antenna, etc for one decent deal.

Also, the interesting thing about Fort Wayne locals on D*....they are going to be carried on a seperate satellite (actually an existing one that will be moved to a different slot). What this means is that you will either have to get a superwide dish (around 32" wide) or a second 18" dish to get them. My guess is that I'll get the second dish on the back of my house, but I know a bunch of people are going to be surprised to do that...
post #244 of 4216
Comcast has ESPNHD, INHD, INHD2, HBOHD, SHOHD, and MAXHD as of right now. As for how they look, I think they look great myself, but I really have not seen the best quality HD yet, nor can I compare to OTA (just can't justify buying an HD Tuner without the time shifting/PVR and futureproofing). The movie trailers on INHD are very very good, and several of the movies on HBO/SHO/MAX HD were as good (Star Wars EP2, The Ring, Drumline and Die Another Day, the latter made the DVD look very fuzzy). I was surprised to see the NBA Allstar game simulcast in HD on INHD and that looked amazing. I think Comcast is doing a competant job, but they just need to quickly get the rest of the locals on board, and the rest of the movie channels.

Though ofcourse, Comcast keeps raising its rates, which may force me to look for alternatives. The way they have things set up is a scam I believe.
post #245 of 4216
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Also, the interesting thing about Fort Wayne locals on D*....they are going to be carried on a seperate satellite (actually an existing one that will be moved to a different slot). What this means is that you will either have to get a superwide dish (around 32" wide) or a second 18" dish to get them. My guess is that I'll get the second dish on the back of my house, but I know a bunch of people are going to be surprised to do that...

Do you currently have a triple lnb dish? These are needed for the three D* satellites that they currently have. These are about 24" wide. They are launching a new satellite sometime this spring that will have spotbeam technology, giving them the ability to do locals.

Are you saying that they are going to move the satellite that they are replacing this spring into a different orbital slot and have 4 satellites to hit? This wouldn't make a lot of sense for anyone other than satellite dish installers as it would give them more work. But I guess they need to meet some deadline for carrying as many local channels as possible this might be their best alternative.

If D* dishes keep getting larger I may as just throw up a good ol C Band satellite on top of the house!

Jason

If they do do this hopefully the only programming that will be on this satellite will be locals.
post #246 of 4216
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I think Comcast is doing a competant job, but they just need to quickly get the rest of the locals on board

I think WPTA has to negotiate a deal with Comcast for them to carry the HD channel. WPTA might be asking for too much money from Comcast or Comcast thinks they should get it either really cheap or free since it's available OTA for free.

By the way, ABC has some of the best HD programming available. MNF is awesome and all winter they have been showing about 2 HD movies a week that have been pretty good. This Monday they showed The Fast and the Furious and although the movie is not my favorite the PQ was fantastic.
post #247 of 4216
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Originally posted by vereekej
DialItUp,

One thing you might want to consider.

How many HD channels does Comcast carry other than locals? Just asking because I'm not sure how many they have. HD locals are a non-issue if you live in Ft. Wayne as you can get then OTA fairly easily, especially WPTA as they are transmitting at the highest power. Other than FOX (480p currently, potentially 720p late fall/early winter, at least at a national level) which hardly anyone can receive and they also have no intentions of boosting their signal strength anytime soon. Could be years based on the e-mails they have sent me.

Although if your biggest factor in choosing a provider is the ability to time shift then hopefully Comcast will have a HD PVR soon for you. The HD Tivo soon to come out for D* will have dual D* tuners and supposedly dual OTA tuners as well, but the price is rumored to be around 1k. Kinda salty unless they offer a deal for a 1 year service commitment or something to make the price more realistic.

Let us know how Comcast HD channels look.

Jason

Comcast is carrying INHD/INHD2, all local channels except Fox and WPTA, ESPN, HBO-HD, SHO-HD, MAX-HD. I don't subscribe to the premium channels - but both INHD channels look incredible. My DVI port is enabled on the 5100 now and looks a little better than component. I worked out a deal with Comcast for the next 6 months to try out their HD. I already use cable modem, which I'd hate to part with. My total monthly bill right now is only $53 including taxes. I am still on contract with D* until May, so I can't break that yet. Also, I have the RCA DLP set which receives OTA HD and looks great also. I am located less than a mile for most of the local stations so I pick them all up crystal clear with an indoor amplified antenna. I would like D* tivo when it comes out, but the price seems pretty steep at 1K. I think I will be able to lease something from Comcast for $5-10/month.

Matt
post #248 of 4216
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Originally posted by vereekej
I think WPTA has to negotiate a deal with Comcast for them to carry the HD channel. WPTA might be asking for too much money from Comcast or Comcast thinks they should get it either really cheap or free since it's available OTA for free.


Shhhh don't tell anybody but the local broadcast engineers are pretty friendly with each other. The fact that WPTA is not on Comcast is a corporate level decision. It is my understanding that they want to negotiate a group deal for all the Granite stations with Comcast.

MK
post #249 of 4216
Anyone getting lower signal strengths from WANE lately? The past week I have been getting a really poor signal compared to previously. I think I'm going to have to journey up on top of the roof and check alignment on my antenna but I have a hard time believing that it has moved at all. Worth a check though, gotta get that signal strength up higher before the final four games that will be HD.

MK,

I have heard of other MSO's that are not carrying all local HD channels so we're definitely not in a unique situation at all. Some are having difficulties because local broadcasters want the MSO to pick up all subchannels as well, which are sometimes not wanted/needed. Usually though it falls into the hands of the MSO which will hold out for the best deal possible. Probably not a real high priority yet at Comcast to carry local HD channels since the market penetration in Ft. Wayne area isn't that high. Comcast also has a reputation for being bullies.

Jason
post #250 of 4216
Slightly off topic...

Anyone catch last night's NBC-33 newscast and the spot on the Women's Bureau? See anything unusual on there?
post #251 of 4216
Nope, but I'm curious to know what you're talking about anyways.
post #252 of 4216
Let's just say something along the lines which would be appropriate in a women's bureau setting, but would make Janet Jackson blush.

Gynecologists need not reply :-D
post #253 of 4216
Comcast has added StarzHD. Just noticed it this morning.
post #254 of 4216
Has anyone noticed the PBS HD channel since Friday has had the same frozen image w/o sound? You would think they would turn off the feed like they do at night and weekdays. PT
post #255 of 4216
Actually, lately, the PBS feed has been on past 11 at night. I just returned my T351 and orded at T151 on the internet, so I can't check now. But I was supprised on night while channel surfing at 2 or 3 in the morning to find PBS on.
post #256 of 4216
Looks like someone at PBS saw your post! PBS HD is now back online showing NOVA & the audio is in sync (for now at least).
post #257 of 4216
Do you guys have small clicks and pops on your PBS audio? I've had a Zenith HDV420 and a Samsung SIR-T351, and on both units, the audio would have small clicks and pops in it. It almost sounds kinda like static noise like when you touch a doorknob and get shocked. Some shows it happens all the time, whereas others, it only happens ocasionally, like when someone is talking. It doens't do this on any other channel even 40-2, only on 40-1.
post #258 of 4216
The only problem I've had with PBS is the audio is out of synch almost all of the time. I figure it's all part of the teething of HDTV. By the way I use the Dish 811 reciever.PT
post #259 of 4216
PBS has audio problems on a regular basis. To fix the problems someone has to call the station and make them aware of the situation. Unfortunately not that many people can receive PBS-dt and probably even fewer are watching it on a regular basis.

Bossplaya,
I have heard that Starz HD isn't really that great, let us know how you think it is.
post #260 of 4216
Starz HD sucks, as most of the movies aren't in HD or widescreen, but they do have a couple, like LOTR:Twin Towers. Seems like Starz and Showtime aren't really ready for HD, the same for ESPN HD which shows something in HD once in a blue moon. HBO and MaxHD are slightly better. Though shoHD gets some credit for showing their boxing in high def (HBO doesn't, though it looks good). I can't really vouch for the quality of the HD (as I haven't seen the best HD on my own set, just the heavily compressed cable version), only that the best HD I have seen looks better than DVD (not way better, or blows away, just better). New movies on the average look great.

Die Another Day on Showtime makes the DVD look really blurry, which is the biggest difference I have seen, and that type of thing keeps up, I may only buy DVD's of new movies that I really really like. Something has to give with Comcast's rediculously high prices, which have me looking at what VOOM and others have to offer.
post #261 of 4216
Bossplaya,

How much does Comcast cost?

I have D* and that ends up being $47 a month with the smallest programming package Total Choice and the HD package and only 1 receiver in the house. Not to mention that it will go up by $3 as soon as my 1 year commitment is up. I can't really justify a switch though because I just invested $700 in the Sat HD300. Although it appears that Comcast is adding more HD channels much more aggresively than D*.

I would be leary of Voom as there aren't many supporters of it out there. At the very least wait it out a while to see what will happen with them.
post #262 of 4216
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Digital Package(s) Premium Channels Other Features Monthly Price

Digital Platinum 5 ON DEMAND, Onscreen Guide $97.99

Digital Gold Plus 3 ON DEMAND, Onscreen Guide $91.99

Digital Gold 2 ON DEMAND, Onscreen Guide $86.99

Digital Silver 1 ON DEMAND, Onscreen Guide $75.99

Basic Digital N/A ON DEMAND, Onscreen Guide $59.84

An extra 5.00 for the HDTV Digital Cable Box rental, then there's a sales tax and fee's on top. In comparison, the top package was $79 two years ago. I have the most expensive package, as it seems I cannot get a decent discount for dropping channels so it's either an all or nothing deal. On the bright side, there are plenty of West versions of the premium movie channels, which makes it easy to catch something that I have missed. The pricing structure is a total scam though, which is the reason why I'm looking for something better. I also have cable modem service, and you know Comcast must love me.

Also noticed that the NBAtv.com HD games on INHD were not blacked out recently, so maybe Comast has made a deal with them. ESPN HD finally showing some HD this week which is cool. Got to see IU and Purdue flame out in glorious 720p!

Really, I was all set on getting rid of cable for a while then they started offering HD so I had to check it out. And ofcourse, once I get down on the movie channels, they start showing lots of gems, which aren't on DVD yet.
post #263 of 4216
Those prices are pretty high!! I certainly couldn't justify spending $100 mo. for t.v. Having the cable modem is nice though and I think Comcast gives a price break on that if you have digital t.v. service as well. Directv's best package will end up costing $100 per month too, but at least they offer their basic package for only $37.99 which is pretty sufficient.

Thank goodness for good ol OTA HD and the best price of all FREE!!

Jason
post #264 of 4216
I am watching the SEC Basketball game and it is not in HD. I tried calling Wane, but I got no answer. Is anyone else watching the basketball game on 31? If so, do you know how to get ahold of someone who would know what is going on?

Thanks,
Ryan
post #265 of 4216
It's not being broadcast in HD so don't even bother to call WANE. I don't think CBS will be doing HD until the final four in the tourney.
post #266 of 4216
I have tried everything to isolate where the clicks are comming from on the PBS HD channel. I have tried three boxes, Samsung T351 and T151 and a Zenith HDV420. I have tried running the digital audio to my receiver as well as switching the audio to pcm. I have tried running analog audio to the receiver as well as directly to the tv. In all cases, the PBS HD (40-1) has small clicks at random times in the audio. I have recorded a small portion with my computer, so if you would like, i could send you a copy to hear what i hear. These small clicks are only on the HD channel not 40-2 or any other digital channel. I find it hard to believe that it is on my end at all. Can some of you listen in for a little while to see if you hear them? Thanks
Ryan
post #267 of 4216
I'll listen for a while to see if I can hear anything.
post #268 of 4216
Well you don't have to listen in. I emailed wfwa and scott replied that it was a decoder issue that they are working on to get fixed. At least they know of the problem and are acknowledging that it is on their end. It almost seems that with these clicks and the audio sync issues, that they should just get an audio decoder like the other stations have.

Ryan
post #269 of 4216
As of this moment, this is how the HD broadcast of NCAA basketball is taking place with WANE-DT and CBS. Friday, the 19th and Sunday the 21st, all games originating out of Kansas City will be available in HD. The following weekend, Friday the 26th and Sunday the 28th, all games originating out of St. Louis will be available in HD. The final 4 and the Championship game will obviously be broadcast in HD. I will post more information about this as soon as I know more (in about a day or so).
post #270 of 4216
Thanks for the update.
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