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post #3691 of 4216
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Originally Posted by Skylooker View Post

Is anyone else having issues eith WPTA in HD via DISH Network? I couldn't watch DWTS last night. Audio was out of sync and pic got blurry when there was a significant scene change. Audio was okay via ota antenna.

Will watch WBND tonight and see if the blurriness is from the net or an issue with WPTA. I suspect the latter. I'll report back after the comparison.

There was a problem with the HD encoder, this was resolved yesturday evening.
post #3692 of 4216
We are scheduled to make the WISE-DT19 to DT18 transition next Thursday October 15th at 12 noon EST. Please let whoever you know that they will need to rescan after the transistion. We will be running crawls to alert viewers.
post #3693 of 4216
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Originally Posted by HoosierHDTV View Post

I Put this together for some co-workers, figured I'd share it here as well.

Any additions and/or corrections are welcome.

WANE-DT (UHF Channel 31)
Virtual Channel 15-1 and Sub-Channels
15-1 CBS (1080i, 16x9, DD5.1)
15-2 LWS (Local Weather Station) (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
Transmitter: 1000 kW
Tower Height: 242 m
Frequency: 572-578 MHz


WPTA-DT (UHF Channel 24)
Virtual channel 21-1 and Sub-Channels
21-1 ABC (720p, 16x9, 2.0)
21-2 The CW (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
21-3 PinPoint VIPIR radar (480i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 335 kW
Tower Height: 224.4 m
Frequency: 530-536 MHz


WISE-DT (UHF Channel 19...soon to be 18)
Virtual channel 33-1 and Sub-Channels
33-1 NBC (1080i, 16x9, DD5.1)
33-2 MyNetworkTV (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
33-3 Local News & Weather (480i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 142.5 kW
Tower Height: 239.3 m
Frequency: 494-500 MHz and 500-506 MHz


WFFT-DT (UHF Channel 36)
Virtual Channel 55-1 No Sub-Channels
55-1 FOX (720p, 16x9, DD5.1)
Transmitter: 1000 kW
Tower Height: 219 m
Frequency: 602-608 MHz


WFWA-DT (UHF Channel 40)
Virtual Channel 39-1 and Sub-Channels
39-1 Main WFWA Programming (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
39-2 Kids 39 (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
39-3 Create (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
39-4 39-4you (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
Transmitter: 90 kW
Tower Height: 221 m
Frequency: 626-632 MHz


WINM-DT (VHF Channel 12)
Virtual Channel 38-1 and Sub-Channels
38-1 TCT (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
38-2 TCT-HD (1080i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 16.5 kW
Tower Height: 132 m
Frequency: unknown MHz

I have a few:
WINM-DT (VHF Channel 12)
Virtual Channel 63-1 and Sub-Channels (Not sure if they still remap to 63 or not)??
63-1 TCT (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
63-2 TCT-HD (1080i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 16.5 kW
Tower Height: 132 m
Frequency: 204-210MHz
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=67787

WINM-DT (UHF Channel 38) (I think this is a translator for 12/63)
Virtual Channel 38-1 and Sub-Channels
38-1 TCT (480i, 4x3, 2.0)
38-2 TCT-HD (1080i, 16x9, 2.0)
Transmitter: 15 kW
Tower Height: 179 m
Frequency: 614-620MHz

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=67788

W07CL (UHF Channel 26)
Virtual Channel 26-1 and Sub-Channels
26-1 ?
26-2 ?
26-3 ?
26-4 ?
Transmitter: 6 kW
Tower Height: 94 m
Frequency: 542-548MHz

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=168575
post #3694 of 4216
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Originally Posted by ENGjas View Post

We are scheduled to make the WISE-DT19 to DT18 transition next Thursday October 15th at 12 noon EST. Please let whoever you know that they will need to rescan after the transistion. We will be running crawls to alert viewers.

Damn, ENGjas. Thank God My wife doesn't watch 33 in the afternoon before going to work. 12 Noon?! C'mon, man.
post #3695 of 4216
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Originally Posted by John W View Post

Damn, ENGjas. Thank God My wife doesn't watch 33 in the afternoon before going to work. 12 Noon?! C'mon, man.

This was done so that the cable systems would have somebody there to change their receivers. Originally it was planned for overnight. Also, there will be people at the station that can answer phones. Was not my decision anyhow.
post #3696 of 4216
Is there any way that the PSIP broadcast can be fixed to transmit the correct day and time? WISE and WPTA are saying it is Thursday, Oct. 15 (tomorrow), according to my Samsung TV. I wouldn't really care much except that it is messing up my DTV Pal DVR. I know this DVR is supposed to get day and time info from TVGOS, but incorrect PSIP info seems to mess these machines up so that they don't record the correct programs. (I had some trouble with this last week with the incorrect time, but the date was correct. And I know that if I flash my DTV Pal firmware, it may handle the TVGOS/PSIP discrepancy better. I was hoping to avoid doing that...)
post #3697 of 4216
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Originally Posted by ENGjas View Post

We are scheduled to make the WISE-DT19 to DT18 transition next Thursday October 15th at 12 noon EST. Please let whoever you know that they will need to rescan after the transistion. We will be running crawls to alert viewers.

I see the transition went as scheduled. About 12:30 p.m. I parked my receiver on ch. 18 and at 12:35 it picked up a very quick decode (2-3 seconds) with PSIP info here at a distance of 94 miles (and on a terrible reception day in the area).

Steve
post #3698 of 4216
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Originally Posted by MaxFly View Post

Is there any way that the PSIP broadcast can be fixed to transmit the correct day and time? WISE and WPTA are saying it is Thursday, Oct. 15 (tomorrow), according to my Samsung TV. I wouldn't really care much except that it is messing up my DTV Pal DVR. I know this DVR is supposed to get day and time info from TVGOS, but incorrect PSIP info seems to mess these machines up so that they don't record the correct programs. (I had some trouble with this last week with the incorrect time, but the date was correct. And I know that if I flash my DTV Pal firmware, it may handle the TVGOS/PSIP discrepancy better. I was hoping to avoid doing that...)

I am not seeing a problem here at this time. Everything is checking OK and my tuners at home and at the station are correct.

Is there anyone else seeing a time problem?
post #3699 of 4216
Even though tower heigth is a bit short signal level on 33 is higher and solid. Also in Delphos,Oh. Channel 33 is now receiveable. The one antenna on the 21 tower with two signals combined is the correct way to broadcast television. This has been used in England forever in the analog era. And all five channels in the digital now are all from one mast and one antenna on top. This goes for all transmission towers in the U.K. Wow that just what they have done on the Sutro tower in San Francisco last week. Also what is going to happen to the old WKJG tower and antenna now abandoned on State St. ?
post #3700 of 4216
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Originally Posted by aerial1 View Post

Even though tower heigth is a bit short signal level on 33 is higher and solid. Also in Delphos,Oh. Channel 33 is now receiveable. The one antenna on the 21 tower with two signals combined is the correct way to broadcast television. This has been used in England forever in the analog era. And all five channels in the digital now are all from one mast and one antenna on top. This goes for all transmission towers in the U.K. Wow that just what they have done on the Sutro tower in San Francisco last week. Also what is going to happen to the old WKJG tower and antenna now abandoned on State St. ?

The tower and building was sold over a year ago. We will be removing the antenna shortly. The company that currenty owns the tower already has many various antennas mounted and plans to mount more once our big antenna is removed.
post #3701 of 4216
ENGjas~~

Excellent job on the transition!! The crawls were very impressive, unobtrusive, and pleasing to the eye.

Has the channel change info been relayed to Tribune Media for the subchannels as well?
post #3702 of 4216
Has anyone else noticed audio popping on NBC HD? (FIOS)

I mainly notice it during the Thursday night lineup ("documentary" style) and it's primarily the center channel. It's sometimes voices being overly crisp at high pitches/volumes (like a crappy microphone), while others the whole sound starts 'popping'

I figure it's 1.The newish 5.1 WISE has 2.NBC or 3.My speaker is blown
post #3703 of 4216
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aerial1:
Finally it is not my antenna issue since I installed 4 to 5 of them. I have one antenna to try and that is a 7 foot parabolic Channel master that would be over kill.

aerial1, did you ever get your ant. situation figured out? I was curious if maybe you're so close to FW that any of the 4 to 5 ant's that you've tried would have been overkill, not just the 7 foot parabolic.

You're so close, an indoor non-amplified ant would probably work best for the FW stations you're trying to get.

I helped a gentleman earlier this morning who lives by exit 25 I-469 and SR 37 by having him remove his booster- thereby lowering signal gain and it solved his problem. Thought maybe you're getting too much gain too.

FWIW,
Cheers
post #3704 of 4216
Just installed a channel Mstr. 4221-HD and now the 39 problem is not as severe . Just a side note Dt-12 comes in from the rear of this antenna.I Dont use d.t. 12 because D.t. 38 is stronger and of the same source. I think I am done with antenna tests for the season. I would like to test the clearstream antennas next. They look unique but the reflector looks thin and cheap. Also check out a funky looking antenna from Winegard the FV-HD30 this is a new model and I must get one to fiddle with.
post #3705 of 4216
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Originally Posted by bonzy View Post

Has anyone else noticed audio popping on NBC HD? (FIOS)

I mainly notice it during the Thursday night lineup ("documentary" style) and it's primarily the center channel. It's sometimes voices being overly crisp at high pitches/volumes (like a crappy microphone), while others the whole sound starts 'popping'

I figure it's 1.The newish 5.1 WISE has 2.NBC or 3.My speaker is blown

i don't watch 33 much, but i did notice this popping was REALLY bad during heroes on Monday. thought it was my DVR (direcTV) but i started googling around and it seems to be a problem with the broadcasting. some people say turning off the 5.1 will fix it...but...i have surround sound for a reason. to listen to it
post #3706 of 4216
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Originally Posted by bonzy View Post

Has anyone else noticed audio popping on NBC HD? (FIOS)

I mainly notice it during the Thursday night lineup ("documentary" style) and it's primarily the center channel. It's sometimes voices being overly crisp at high pitches/volumes (like a crappy microphone), while others the whole sound starts 'popping'

I figure it's 1.The newish 5.1 WISE has 2.NBC or 3.My speaker is blown

Happening this morning on Saturday Today.
post #3707 of 4216
I can't take it. 21 went off (DISH and OTA) right in the middle of NASCAR. If you guys can't keep the signal on the air, give me a waiver so I can get it from someone who can. 21 and 33 are the absolute worst!!! The antenna is pointing at South Bend again. LP 57 is still better than you guys. What a disgrace.
post #3708 of 4216
Found a few more applications for fort wayne. One of the D.t. channels is on low band VHF and another on D.T.33. The D.T. 33 shows the same tower location as the old anlog 33 on state st. the antenna would be 764 feet above the ground. Power is at 15k.w. Other applications are also listed. It would be nice if the programming was like WWME in Chicago. All the late 50's and 60's programs that were decent and family friendly.The others listed are 2,10,15,20,19,34 what a mess!
post #3709 of 4216
I heard it on Heroes, too. Glad to know others are noticing and I'm not going nuts!

5.1 would be a likely culprit
post #3710 of 4216
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Originally Posted by aerial1 View Post

Found a few more applications for fort wayne. One of the D.t. channels is on low band VHF and another on D.T.33. The D.T. 33 shows the same tower location as the old anlog 33 on state st. the antenna would be 764 feet above the ground. Power is at 15k.w. Other applications are also listed. It would be nice if the programming was like WWME in Chicago. All the late 50's and 60's programs that were decent and family friendly.The others listed are 2,10,15,20,19,34 what a mess!

I saw the apps also,the FCC will screw around and cobble up the dt spectrum in similar fashion as the lower portion of the FM broadcast band.This was supposed to be for low power stations only.not high powered translators and such. You just knew a circus of this size was coming!!!!!
post #3711 of 4216
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Originally Posted by Skylooker View Post

I can't take it. 21 went off (DISH and OTA) right in the middle of NASCAR. If you guys can't keep the signal on the air, give me a waiver so I can get it from someone who can. 21 and 33 are the absolute worst!!! The antenna is pointing at South Bend again. LP 57 is still better than you guys. What a disgrace.

Its synergy, baby, don't you know? Off again, right now.
post #3712 of 4216
Shameful. That's all I can say.
post #3713 of 4216
WANE is having a bit of difficulty with one of our power amplifiers. As a result, our power went down this morning. While we have it back up right now to full juice, we will have to kick it back down at some point in the future. Just an FYI if you happen to stumble across a no signal from us in the next week or 2.....
post #3714 of 4216
I was at my parents in Huntington over the weekend helping them rescan their HDTV, and their Panasonic Viera now shows 33-1, 33-1, 33-2, 33-2, 33-3, 33-3 as if both ch19 and 18 are still being transmitted (and only one of each pair actually works). Any ideas? Anyone else run across this? Thanks!
post #3715 of 4216
Haven't seen it, but I would delete them all and re-scan again. Maybe the TV is keeping the old ch. 19 info and adding the new ch. 18 info too. Better, perhaps, to start with a clean slate.
post #3716 of 4216
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Originally Posted by n691665x View Post

I was at my parents in Huntington over the weekend helping them rescan their HDTV, and their Panasonic Viera now shows 33-1, 33-1, 33-2, 33-2, 33-3, 33-3 as if both ch19 and 18 are still being transmitted (and only one of each pair actually works). Any ideas? Anyone else run across this? Thanks!

My set does the same thing. Some boxes will not delete the old channel, even after a re-scan. You might need to do a "double" rescan. Unplug the antenna connection, do a scan. Plug the antenna back in and then scan again.

Read about this in other markets where stations changed channel assignments like WISE did.
post #3717 of 4216
For DirecTV customers:

As of Wednesday morning, DirecTV has completed the transition of our SD locals feed from the 72.5 slot (18" dish) to the mpeg4 HD locals currently on the 99 spot-beam (Slimline Ka/Ku Dish).

If you are seeing a message that "your local channels have moved", follow the instructions to schedule the proper upgrade to mpeg4 equipment.

If you see a message in the channel banner that says "channel not availlable" and reverts to the current channel you are viewing, then you most likely have the correct mpeg4 receivers, but the Slimline Ka/Ku dish is either not present, or present but not recognized in the satellie setup.

I have attached pictures of the three possible Ka/Ku dishes that you could have installed. If you do not have one of these dishes installed, you would need to call to DirecTV to shedule the proper Dish Upgrade (free of charge). If you do have one of these dishes installed, and are not able to tune to any of the locals, post your details, and I can possibly walk you through changing your configuration to get the locals back.
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post #3718 of 4216
Yesterday I spoke to the tower crew chief at the old channel 33 tower site. This is the old State Street location. The antenna on the tower was the second antenna installed in the early nineties providing mixed analog and digital out of one stick. Well currently it is being removed forever and the tower is used for a communication radio service company. A pole will be added to the top to hold the beacon light. A few LP-TV digital stations are eyeing this tower. Only time will tell. Farewell WKJG-33 you served us well since the early 1950's.
post #3719 of 4216
Hearing major audio clipping on Parks & Rec tonight - HD FIOS
post #3720 of 4216
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Originally Posted by jckrac View Post

WANE is having a bit of difficulty with one of our power amplifiers. As a result, our power went down this morning. While we have it back up right now to full juice, we will have to kick it back down at some point in the future. Just an FYI if you happen to stumble across a no signal from us in the next week or 2.....

How is this going?
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