Fort Wayne, IN - HDTV - Page 133

And, what about providers that don't currently carry subchannels?

I don't understand why the decision wasn't to put Fox on 21-2 and move CW to 33-2. Then you'd have the two 720p signals together, an arrangement that I've widely heard considered to be superior to the 1080i/720p combination.

- Trip

That would have been ideal but this was due to the contract for the CW is with WPTA and Malara Broadcasting.

Ah, that makes sense then. Hopefully that can be corrected in the future.

- Trip

I was reading about this on another website. Fort Wayne area viewers on DirecTV & Dish Network will lose their local Fox station due to this move. Now I don't know if DirecTV will allow people to get Fox from New York & Los Angeles, & Dish Network allowing a neighboring Fox station on their systems in Fort Wayne. I'd be surprised if Dish & DirecTV agree to carry the Fox network from WISE-TV's subchannel, but I doubt it, as they refuse to carry subchannels. If I'm not mistaken, any market that has the CW or MNT on a subchannel, that satellite don't carry those stations either.

I'm 99.9999999999999% sure that 33-2 will be carried on satellite.

- Trip

INC's CW is currently on DirecTV so they do air subchannels depending on the network. I am not sure if DISH carries the CW, I believe they do not.

Engjas,
Will the Fox and NBC programming still have 5.1 audio?

Oh the big satellite companies get to pick & choose what they'll carry locally? Being in the Chicago market, they refuse to carry anything from WTTW other than the main channel, & WTTW wants WTTW Prime added. Just like WCIU, they'd like to get The U Too & MeToo (Chicago's MeTV) added. DirecTV actually balked at the idea of carrying MeTV (when MeTV was local to Chicago), because MeTV is carried on low power station WWME-LD (then WWME-CA, which now simulcasts The U Too, until Weigel decides whether to keep RF 39 for WWME-LD, or flash-cut RF 23 to digital & move MeTV back to 23), but they didn't actually want to carry a low power station on their system. Yes, MeTV is also carried on WCIU 26.3, but only simulcasted on WCIU because WWME-LD doesn't cover the entire Chicago market. All of the 6 networks in Chicago are carried on the main channel of each station (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CW, & MyNT), while not an option in Fort Wayne, due to only being allocated 6 full power stations to your market, while neighboring South Bend was only allocated 5 with 4 being for commercial use (they don't have ABC, CW, or MyNT on a full power station).

If you want good television and Chicago is the one.Then network with a relative or friend and use the extra H.D. box here in this city. you pay them a portion of the bill and you are ready. Chicago stations on the dish and Fort Wayne on the antenna. all you need is a slimline dish installed.

What you are suggesting:

1) is theft of service.

2) will not work for HD locals. Chicago HD locals are on a "spot-beam" on the 103. Fort Wayne is outside of this "spot-beam" footprint. Chicago SD locals are on the 101, and not on a "spot beam".

Good Luck!!

So, Engjas, why is it branded "my fox"? Just because it's on a subchannel?

Ah, well, personally, I think the 'my' sounds silly. 'Fox Fort Wayne' would have been accurate and professional sounding.

MyComputer, MyDocuments, MySpace, My... was sooo last decade.

Of course, the My Fox branding is *because of* MySpace, which is currently owned by Fox's parent corp. If NewsCorp does sell off MySpace like they've threatened to, I wonder how quickly they'll roll out a new appearance theme and branding to distance themselves from MySpace.

Hmm, what about the current "MyTV" channel they have? Is that also owned by News Corp?

Do you mean MyNetworkTV? If so, yes, that too is owned by NewsCorp.

Hmm, wonder if it'll change things now that News Corp doesn't own MySpace
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43581327...s-us_business/

Well, we're find out, then. Personally, I think it'll take them a few months. Sure, they would have known ahead of time and had time to prepare a new theme package, but I doubt that they'll roll out a new theme package until the fall season.

Yes we are in the spot beam signal strength is 64 on a scale of 100. It works very well here in Fort Wayne. By the way Bill kurtis is back on Wbbm channel 2 news and his side kick is walter Jacobson. He was know in the early years for his editorials at political people and had the Ba__s to do it. Not like the city friendly spineless reporting we have here. A family got raw sewage pumped into their home the newspaper took the story but not one news reporter had the courage to investigate the sewer departments admitted error making them homeless. No ba__s just show us more useless morning live shots of scenery of downtown.

Noticed last night at 10 PM Jim Blue working on saying WFFT News instead of FOX first at 10 or whatever he used to say.

Just noticed that the programming on 33.2 is in HD.

Charlie Ergen not cooperating so far.

http://www.dropdishinftwayne.com/

Funny they went to the trouble of making a website that looks independent, but still use the same voice-over as other INC ads. I'm not aware that Dish anywhere carries subchannels. I like how their solution is to drop dish instead of plugging in an antenna.

Also funny that they don't have a similar site because dish doesn't carry the CW or the soon to be gone MyNetwork.

Well, according to sources Dish does carry subchannels in some areas where one of the four major networks is on a subchannel. Of course this is all about the cash as most everything is these days. No sense pussyfooting around and starting out nice and then escalating, they've dealt with Mr. Ergen before I'm sure.

Yeah, not sure how I feel about it. If Dish has to pay for OTA channels, then in the end, I'm paying for OTA channels, which I can get for free with an antenna.

And DISH has delt with many local stations before ... the cooperating ones are carried.

When the first public step is to launch a "dump DISH" campaign it makes it look like DISH is negotiating with terrorists. Carry 33.2 or we'll kill you.

It was NOT DISH's decision to pull the Fox feed from channel 55 (a channel DISH agreed to carry) and put it on 33.2 (a channel DISH cannot carry without permission). Many local stations look to cable and satellite providers as partners helping them reach their viewers ... others just see it as yet another revenue stream.

And, of course, "cooperating ones" are defined as those that reach a financial agreement with Dish Network. Its really that simple. Dish plays this kind of hardball within minutes of expiring agreements all the time. Stations have every right to play tough right back. Charile's a big boy, he can take it.

I really don't under stand why Dish (Dish's customers) have to pay for something they can get for free. I'd think the stations would welcome Dish with open arms. We all have to thank the first cable/satellite provider who ponied up.

One has a choice. Pay for an antenna or pay to have someone deliver that content via cable/satellite. Even though I live about 15 miles from the antenna farm I get more reliable reception via satellite than OTA. (LOS is better to satellite than the farm.) And since I'm buying satellite for content that my local stations don't carry getting locals that way is a bonus.

BTW: DISH spends a lot of money to carry local channels ... receive sites, backhauls, uplink centers, more complex satellites ... all stuff that would not be needed if locals were not part of the picture. And then some stations add on their pound of flesh ... "pennies a day" that add up to a lot when every channel makes a demand.


And since the regulations do not require the same deal for all providers the pony can be a different size. Some systems may be getting a channel for free or "pennies per month" while others get held up for higher rates.

There needs to be better regulation ... personally I'd prefer a statutory license fee if anything is paid to the station. No negotiating between station and providers ... just a federally set price. That would best serve the consumer. I'd prefer that price to be "free" ... but as long as it is consistent across cable and satellite and across stations a statutory price would be better than "lets see how much we can milk the viewers via their providers".

Dear station: Before my locals were on satellite I found it more convenient to watch other content. If you're not carried I'll learn to live without you.

Glad I use a antenna. I'm a Dish customer for many years and generaly happy with it but I don't like getting in the middle of these disputes from time to time. My concern with the FOX change is what quality of picture will we get gong from a station that doesen't have sub channels to one splitting the bandwith three ways.