Springfield / Joplin, MO - HDTV - Page 9

But what good is that if they are not broadcasting in HD?

Yeah it sucks that they are not in HD. But hey I "LIVE" in NYC. So I get them via directv.

Are the local stations actually going full power July 1st?

I have OTA only, I'm not going to decided on a pay TV option until my home theater is built. It would be nice to get a clear digital signal from all the locals Hi-Def or not.

MSpin

please explain. i actually have relatives in NY.

I think MSpin means he "moved" his satellite service address to NY to get the DNS HD feeds.

I "moved" to an address in a small town in Arkansas that qualifies for DNS feeds so I could get them in HD. To qualify, an address must not be able to get OTA TV at all, and must be in an area that cannot get local channels via DirecTV.

DNS qualification is based on an address by address basis, not ZIP Code.

I understand that, but when I tried the regulations had changed. But I was "moving" from Springfield to the lakes area.

Going from springfield to NY is a big hop.

Sure it's a big hop but it fixes the problem. I have a friend there who has cable so I use his address for my service address. It gives me all the East coast HD feeds. So I can get my HD ABC, FOX, and CBS here in springpatch. I actually still use the local NBC unless they show springfield cardinal games during primetime.

S

So will KOZK bump up their signal then? and how does this compare to the analog signal strength. I cant find that information on any of their websites.

thanks

cjc

I have actually started picking up the KOZK signal the past week or so here. Maybe they have increased their power? I also notice a drop in the KY3 signal the same time period. It has gone from always in the 90's, to down in the 70's.

Could the two be related?

I have also saw signal strength changes on KOZK this past week. It has been running from mid 80's to mid 90's, today about 91% and KY3 about 92%.

I wish KY3 would do something about the digital picture on UPN, it is terrible on my tv.

I sure hope to see a power increase on our other locals by July 1st. I'm afraid Nexstar has figured a way out of it. My dad lives only about a mile from me,( but on a hill) can pick up KSFX and KOLR at about 64% on his 811 receiver. I see that he has guide info on KSFX but not KOLR.I can't tell how good the picture is as he only has an analog square box but it is better than his analog picture.

Is KSPR seen by anyone at all up there? I can't even get a 'blip' on my signal screen from channel 19.

KSPR has a small temp transmitter on top of the building for the DT. I don't know if they are broadcasting right now or offline. I know they were offline for a bit. I don't bother trying to pick it up it's so low power.

to answer the other question about KOZK.

Analog is 1188 kW
Digital full power is 100 kW according to their license. The increase in the signal quality may mean they were operating below full power and increased it some.

For what it's worth, since Monday I can not get any signal at all from KOZK once again......

It's working just fine for me in Republic.

I am sure it is still up and going, we have never gotten it consistently here until last week when it was on all the time. I did notice KY 3 signal to be lower last week and now it is back at 93 strength.

I wonder if it is putting the squeeze on KOZK's signal and crowding it out?

If you don't have an amp Arkie you might try one. I bought the Philips from Wal-Mart (28db gain) and it picked me up a good 10%. I think it cost around 30 bucks.

July 1st is getting close,does anyone think our other 3 networks will turn the power up?
I dought it.

No way. They are too cheap

According to this FCC site, the following stations have Special Temporary Authority permits (STAs) to operate at low power:
KOLR
KSFX
KSPR

All STAs shown for these stations expire on 7/1/05, and none of those stations have applied for extensions. So, they *should* be full power on 7/1. Of course, that doesn't mean they *will* be.....

It also looks like KOLR will go back to VHF 10 after analog shutoff. That's the final DTV channel they've chosen to use. Chs 52-69 will eventually be auctioned off.

Where do you see that they are moving back to 10? Their construction permit for DT shows them at 52. I know that 52 - 69 are only temporary channels but I don't see anything saying they will be at 10. At least I hope not, VHF would tick me off since I would need a new antenna.

It wouldn't surprise me to see all our locals go back to the original numbers. It will probably be a few years down the road before analog is shut down ,so I would say we are safe with our uhf antenna's for a long while.

Hey, cool.

I did a quick scan for digital channels on my TV and picked up KOMU on 8.1 the other night. I got very low signal for about an hour then it was gone. I went up to the attic and tweaked the antenna a little bit ago...

Now I get 19.1 - ABC strong signal, and still very low KOMU (on for a bit then drops out.

BTW I'm on the south side of Nixa.

Their "first round" in-core channel selection to use post-transition is VHF 10, and they chose no alternate channel. The application is HERE.

They can't use ch 52 post transition anyway, because the only TV channels left will be 2 thru 51. 52 thru 69 will be auctioned off for new "wireless" services. So it's highly likely they'll get to move back to 10 when analog goes dark.

I wouldn't worry about the antenna until then though. Most highband VHF chs (7 thru 13) can be received with an antenna designed for UHF-only. And if not, a good V/U preamp will usually be all you'll need to add.

Lowband VHF channels 2 thru 6 will likely be abandoned in most of the country, due to interference that makes DTV broadcasts in that band difficult. The PBS affiliate in Little Rock (ch 2) was initially assigned a UHF channel for DTV, but they went to the FCC and begged for a VHF channel for DTV so they could use less power (VHF uses *much* less power than UHF for the same coverage area). The FCC gave them channel 5, and reception has been difficult to impossible for many of their viewers. They have given up post-transition rights to BOTH lowband VHF channel assignments (analog 2 & DT 5) and are awaiting a new channel assignment by the FCC. Meanwhile, most central arkansas viewers cannot reliably receive PBS-DT over the air.

WBBM in Chicago is also abandoning their lowband VHF digital channel, post transition. Reception has been a miserable failure there for many viewers.

KYTV is staying UHF 44, post transition. Their application is here

Based on this information and current application stuff, one might really think that the Springfield channels will be going to full power in digitial. Anyone have additional thoughts on this?

I just wish they would open thier frickin' wallets and roll out HD.

Is KSFX full power yet? Their Special Temporary Authority to operate at low power EXPIRED on 6/20/05. Application info

I get 0 signal from KSFX digital channel 28. My picture is totally unwatchable on analog channel 27. If they want me to watch them, they are going to have to turn up some power.

I get a steady signal from them in the mid 20's. Not enough for a picture though....

I sent e-mail to KOLR asking if they will be turning the power up July 1st, the reply I received from David Smith is, we plan to be full power HD by March next year.

Nine more months of waiting for CBSHD.

Is KOLR already HD?

KOLR is only sending out a weak digital signal, no HD.