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post #4951 of 5449
From the FAQ page:

"What if I don't have cable tv or satellite?
KRBK is currently working on upgrades to help more viewers watch KRBK over-the-air. Plans are in the works to have better coverage for more homes in September and beyond. You won't be disappointed with our switch to FOX."


Riiiiiiight

I would like to hear the rationale for what motivated this genius move.
post #4952 of 5449
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Originally Posted by phlatwound View Post
...I would like to hear the rationale for what motivated this genius move.
Blame tightwad Perry Sook at Nexstar. This isn't the only Nexstar market where Fox went looking for another affiliate.

Fortunately, I can pick up FOX-HD from Fort Smith on KFTA. Sadly, it's another Nexstar station. So they may lose eventually their affiliation, too
post #4953 of 5449
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Originally Posted by arxaw View Post

Blame tightwad Perry Sook at Nexstar. This isn't the only Nexstar market where Fox went looking for another affiliate.

Fortunately, I can pick up FOX-HD from Fort Smith on KFTA. Sadly, it's another Nexstar station. So they may lose eventually their affiliation, too

Curious, did he own 27 when it dropped ABC 30 years ago?
post #4954 of 5449
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Originally Posted by jpw711 View Post

Curious, did he own 27 when it dropped ABC 30 years ago?

I think it was closer to 20 than 30, but no. A lady named Debbie owned it, and the call letters were KDEB as in her name.
post #4955 of 5449
Maybe Nexstar will pull their heads out and switch over to KSFX's frequency and transmitter once Fox is off air since KOLR 10 has so many issues.

Okay, probably not
post #4956 of 5449
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Originally Posted by jliehr View Post
Maybe Nexstar will pull their heads out and switch over to KSFX's frequency and transmitter once Fox is off air since KOLR 10 has so many issues.

Okay, probably not
I doubt it, that would just make too much sense. It would be a better use of spectrum, though.
post #4957 of 5449
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Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post

I think it was closer to 20 than 30, but no. A lady named Debbie owned it, and the call letters were KDEB as in her name.

27 used to be KMTC under Ken Meyer (owner of KTXR). He sold the station to a guy named Woods, who renamed the station KDEB after his daughter, who was the station's GM. Woods bought 27 thinking that he would have ABC which packed up and moved to the 3 year old KSPR.

Woods sued Meyer. Woods won some money. Woods also eventually went bankrupt with this one, and that's how Nexstar ended up with it.

Nexstar is run on the cheap by that greedy idiot Perry Sook.

Now Koplar will join the league of extortion operators who want us to pay to get a signal and screw the OTA viewer.
post #4958 of 5449
Quote:
Originally Posted by phlatwound View Post

From the FAQ page:

"What if I don't have cable tv or satellite?
KRBK is currently working on upgrades to help more viewers watch KRBK over-the-air. Plans are in the works to have better coverage for more homes in September and beyond. You won't be disappointed with our switch to FOX."


Riiiiiiight

I would like to hear the rationale for what motivated this genius move.

Those 'plans' have been in the works since he had the permit to build this POS station.
post #4959 of 5449
The only positive thing I can think about is that the big-4 stations of Springfield will now be owned by 3 different companies, not just 2.

I read on the Ozarks' First Website that 27 would still have the news at 9 and in the morning. I take it they'll be an independent station...

I don't mind KRBK's coverage, since I have a house at the Lake of the Ozarks, it'll be my strongest signal (besides KMOS). I just hope they do something to provide a better signal further south (I know that won't happen)...
post #4960 of 5449
I talked to their engineer yesterday and although he would not talk specifics he said they are working on increasing their coverage area.
I'm taking that with a grain of salt, especially since I could not find any reference to new towers at the FCC website, plus he told me (and I saw it on the FCC website) that they are only licensed for 615 Kw, when the towers at Fordland are over 900 Kw.
post #4961 of 5449
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Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post

I talked to their engineer yesterday and although he would not talk specifics he said they are working on increasing their coverage area.
I'm taking that with a grain of salt, especially since I could not find any reference to new towers at the FCC website, plus he told me (and I saw it on the FCC website) that they are only licensed for 615 Kw, when the towers at Fordland are over 900 Kw.

The current signal is at 326' 10 kW and doesn't even come close to covering Springfield. http://www.rabbitears.info/contour.p...=1326129&map=Y

The permit is for 983' 615 kW. http://www.rabbitears.info/contour.p...=1274791&map=Y

Not sure how reliable it will be should it make it on the air, given that KSFX is closer to Springfield and at 1670' 1000 kW. http://www.rabbitears.info/contour.p...=1172630&map=Y

- Trip
post #4962 of 5449
I'm just outside the 615 Kw map area.
post #4963 of 5449
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Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post

I'm just outside the 615 Kw map area.

I live in Lebanon, (outskirts) and I can barely pick up the signal, if I rotate my rabbit ears away from Fordland.
post #4964 of 5449
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Originally Posted by jpw711 View Post

I live in Lebanon, (outskirts) and I can barely pick up the signal, if I rotate my rabbit ears away from Fordland.

I'm around 10 miles SW of Ava, or 20 miles south of the towers at Fordland.
post #4965 of 5449
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Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post

I'm just outside the 615 Kw map area.

I'm a few miles inside that circle, but down in a holler, plus the signal would be coming in at about 90 degrees from Fordland, right into the side of my CM 4228.
post #4966 of 5449
Wow, that's interesting. I wonder what they plan to do about sports? Nascar, NFL, etc better all be carried on this channel. I can't pick up 49 over the air in Camdenton with a CM 4228 right now. Our family out near El Dorado Springs has zero chance of getting 49. What's happening to 27?
post #4967 of 5449
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Originally Posted by scottmo2020 View Post

Wow, that's interesting. I wonder what they plan to do about sports? Nascar, NFL, etc better all be carried on this channel. I can't pick up 49 over the air in Camdenton with a CM 4228 right now. Our family out near El Dorado Springs has zero chance of getting 49. What's happening to 27?

Some info here:

http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs...=2011110621031

and here:

http://www.rbr.com/tv-cable/fox-dump...ffiliates.html
post #4968 of 5449
Hopefully KOLR will move to KSFX's UHF frequency, since no one will be watching KSFX after the change over. Might as well get some CBS programming on a frequency people can actually receive. KRBK better have their transmitter up to par by Sept 1 or there will be some PO'd people in this area. I suppose they would rather have people subscribe to a pay service and get retrans money and screw OTA. The Fox affiliate in Columbia MO is on a weak low power station. Why is Fox not more particular about the stations they work with? They are a "real" network now. It isn't 1988 anymore. Oh well, thank goodness for the Internet. I can get all the Fox (or any other programming) I want without the need for the local hooch affiliates. Too bad their advertisers have no clue.
post #4969 of 5449
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Originally Posted by scottmo2020 View Post

Hopefully KOLR will move to KSFX's UHF frequency, since no one will be watching KSFX after the change over. Might as well get some CBS programming on a frequency people can actually receive...

This would at least make a bit of lemonade from the lemons being handed to OTA viewers in this market. I emailed this suggestion to Mr Sook, who actually showed interest in the idea. So if anyone else on this board thinks this is a good idea, please hold your nose just this one time and email this suggestion to:
psook@nexstar.tv
post #4970 of 5449
More info...............

From Bolivar Herald-Free Press:

"Northeastern Polk County’s landscape soon will include an 1,100-foot television transmission tower that will transmit the Super Bowl and other FOX Network television programming.


The tower for KRBK-TV, channel 49, will go live this fall, according to Jim Withers, a partner with KRBK, a southwest Missouri TV station that will be the new FOX affiliate Sept. 1.


“It will be this fall,” Withers said of the tower’s expected completion. “Hopefully, we’ll be covering most of the population in the greater Springfield market area.”

Osage Beach is KRBK’s city of license. The station currently has an affiliation with MyNetwork and will continue that affiliation in addition to FOX. The channel is available now through satellite and cable providers, but anyone relying on an antenna to pull in the station may not be receiving the signal.

“We’re over the air with a minimal facility until we get the full-service facility built in Polk County,” Withers said. The current tower is in Eldridge, between Camdenton and Lebanon.

Pre-construction work has been completed, and once construction begins — likely within the next weeks — the tower will be completed quickly, Withers said. The tower will be painted red and white, an alternative to a strobe light, to make it visible to pilots, and will be about 11⁄2 miles east of Polk.

The KRBK FOX Network affiliation will replace the network’s current affiliation with KSFX-TV, channel 27.

KRBK is owned by Koplar Communications in St. Louis."


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And this from the Springfield News-Leader:

http://www.news-leader.com/article/2...xt|FRONTPAGE|p

post #4971 of 5449
I heard about what happened and Nex$tar is screwing y'all over royally with this move. I also put some of the blame of FOX for not seeking out a real affiliate to switch to. A while back, I was able to DX some of the Springfield and Central MO stations (KMIZ, KOMU). KRBK didn't even light up the signal meter and is a complete joke. KRBK won't have any OTA coverage in Northern Arkansas and Branson areas even with the "upgrade". The only upgrade that will happen is that some cablecos will pick up KRBK somehow.

Unless Nex$tar decides to put CBS programming on KSFX's over the air signal, that station will be a wasteland. They'll turn it into another KARZ which is essentially an indie (although KARZ carries My Net programming at night). Expect a good number of syndicated sitcoms, old movies...and infomercials.

This will effect KFTA and the 51-2 subchannel of KNWA in Northwest AR if Nex$tar drops all FOX affiliations.
post #4972 of 5449
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Originally Posted by haley-SEA View Post

...KRBK won't have any OTA coverage in Northern Arkansas and Branson areas even with the "upgrade".

True. Northern Ark. & Southern MO will be basically without FOX-HD OTA. I can get KFTA Ft Smith, but I live on a hilltop. I am outside the 41dB coverage area for it.

Quote:


Unless Nex$tar decides to put CBS programming on KSFX's over the air signal, that station will be a wasteland...
This will affect KFTA and the 51-2 subchannel of KNWA in Northwest AR if Nex$tar drops all FOX affiliations.

Nexstar may actually get CBS moved to KSFX's frequency, one way or another. Sook is well aware of KOLR's crappy coverage and is interested in the idea. It would be quite fitting if KOLR ended up the vast wasteland channel, being on VHF with insufficient power and all...

I think it's FOX dropping Nexstar, not the other way round. Nexstar wants to extort money from viewers on local cable systems but doesn't want to share the booty with FOX, at least not to FOX's satisfaction.
post #4973 of 5449
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Originally Posted by arxaw View Post

I think it's FOX dropping Nexstar, not the other way round. Nexstar wants to extort money from viewers on local cable systems but doesn't want to share the booty with FOX, at least not to FOX's satisfaction.

The viewers are always the losers in the Retrans Wars. This one is going to cost everyone, pluse the OTA folk except those living along Lake Of The Ozarks. Honestly, I don't see KRBK doing anything except getting their signal on D*, E*, Cox, Mediacom, etc. Something will happen that will "delay" getting the OTA "upgrade", and Koplar/KRBK will have a ready excuse. I hate it for the Springfield market viewers come football season.
post #4974 of 5449
Anyone have any idea of how this will effect DirecTV and Dish's Fox local station? Will they have to renegotiate a deal with KRBK to carry their station over the satellite? If so, could us in the Springfield area potentially be unable to watch Fox prime time shows and Fox sporting events until the renegotiation takes place?
post #4975 of 5449
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Originally Posted by jordanzelda23 View Post

Anyone have any idea of how this will effect DirecTV and Dish's Fox local station? Will they have to renegotiate a deal with KRBK to carry their station over the satellite? If so, could us in the Springfield area potentially be unable to watch Fox prime time shows and Fox sporting events until the renegotiation takes place?

IIRC KRBK is already carried on at least one of the two.
Edit:
See the Faq
post #4976 of 5449
It's carried on Dish in Standard definition. I don't know about HD, because I cannot hit the Eastern arc satellite they're on, from my location.
post #4977 of 5449
KRBK is on DirecTV in HD already......
post #4978 of 5449
I, for one, have had enough of this money grab by the local stations and networks. KRBK is just hoping for their bandwidth to get reclaimed, and we all know how that will turn out if they do. They'll expect us all to pay to get them, but I won't. I DO have alternatives, and I will be glad to use them.

I don't pay for low brow crap.
post #4979 of 5449
http://www.multichannel.com/article/...sible_Sale.php

Nexstar Explores Possible Sale
Hires Advisers to Explore Strategic Alternatives
Mike Farrell -- Multichannel News, 7/21/2011 12:32:00 PM

Nexstar Broadcasting Group, a pioneer in extracting cash for retransmission consent from distributors, has hired advisers to explore its strategic opportunities, including a possible sale.
According to a statement issued Thursday morning, Nexstar hired Moelis & Co. as its financial adviser and Kirkland & Ellis as legal counsel "to explore and evaluate strategic alternatives intended to maximize shareholder value, including a possible sale of the company."
The moves comes as Nexstar is embroiled in a battle with News Corp.'s Fox broadcasting network over retransmission consent fees at its Fox affiliated stations.

Nexstar has balked at Fox's demands to split retrans fees from its affiliate stations, which has resulted in it dropping three stations from the Fox lineup - WTVW in Evansville, Ind., WFFT in Fort Wayne, Ind., and KSFX in Springfield, Mo. Nexstar owns, operates or manages about 65 stations in 36 markets across the country, including Salt Lake City; Providence, R.I.; and Rochester, N.Y.
This is the second time that Nexstar has put itself on the auction block. Back in 2007 the station group explored the possibility of a sale, but canceled the auction after the credit markets dried up.
In a research report, Miller Tabak media analyst David Joyce wrote that while margins on retrans fees should decline in the next few years, values of digital spectrum and increased political ad spending should help buoy valuations.
post #4980 of 5449
About freaking time. Goodbye to crap.
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