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post #5071 of 5449
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Originally Posted by justpushplay View Post

It looked the same way on Dish. You could only see part of the score bug, (*) and the video quality was low bit rate streaming quality. Actually, that's being unfair to streaming. My dilemma, and now all of the southern Springfield OTA and Dish DMA, is that our only alternative for Fox is KFTA out of Fayetteville, which is also 4:3 SD, and only looks marginally better that KRBK on Dish.

* George Carlin: And now for a partial score, Green Bay 24.

Hells kitchen looks great in full HD on Charter tonight. Wonder why they can't get it right for NFL. Those black side panels with KRBK plastered on them are just unprofessional. It looks like a high school TV station.
post #5072 of 5449
KRBK My Family Net as a Digital Sub Channel
post #5073 of 5449
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Originally Posted by mgsports View Post

KRBK My Family Net as a Digital Sub Channel

???
post #5074 of 5449
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Originally Posted by scottmo2020 View Post

Those black side panels with KRBK plastered on them are just unprofessional. It looks like a high school TV station.

Fortunately there are no side panels on the Dish SD feed, just black.
post #5075 of 5449
Looks we will have KRBK on dish in HD maybe today. It was uplinked yesterday.This is great news for those who can't receive it OTA. Plus we will have guide info to make it easier to record.
post #5076 of 5449
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Originally Posted by MRUSS View Post

Looks we will have KRBK on dish in HD maybe today. It was uplinked yesterday.This is great news for those who can't receive it OTA. Plus we will have guide info to make it easier to record.

I sure hope your correct. Now if they can show the NFL games in HD instead of what they did last week.
post #5077 of 5449
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

If you have a C-band dish, I don't know how long it will last, but KRBK has an HD feed up on 99W in DVB-S2 8PSK from what I have heard.

- Trip

You heard correctly, and that feed is still up on C-band.

It's a good strong signal, I am getting it with a 10 foot mesh dish, but an 8', or even a good 6' should be sufficient.
post #5078 of 5449
I have KRBK guide info via OTA in Windows Media Center tonight. I had problems with quality last Tuesday night, but I think that was from the storms we had. While the strength meter is sometimes a notch below my other channels, I haven't had any problems other than on the stormy night.

I'm in a pretty ideal place though, about 4 miles northeast of Sunshine and highway 65 in Springfield with a CM4228 about 20 feet off the ground.
post #5079 of 5449
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Originally Posted by MRUSS View Post

Looks we will have KRBK on dish in HD maybe today. It was uplinked yesterday.



A week later, I was hoping it would be made available. Oh well, at least it's uplinked. Maybe next week.

BTW, for those of you that get KRBK OTA, how are they handling Dolby Digital? Are they doing a pass-thru, thus preserving the 5.1 mix? Or are they fumbling around and only doing Dolby 2.0, like KY3?
post #5080 of 5449
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Originally Posted by justpushplay View Post

BTW, for those of you that get KRBK OTA, how are they handling Dolby Digital? Are they doing a pass-thru, thus preserving the 5.1 mix? Or are they fumbling around and only doing Dolby 2.0, like KY3?

It's 5.1.
post #5081 of 5449
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Originally Posted by kalrith View Post

I have KRBK guide info via OTA in Windows Media Center tonight. I had problems with quality last Tuesday night, but I think that was from the storms we had. While the strength meter is sometimes a notch below my other channels, I haven't had any problems other than on the stormy night.

I'm in a pretty ideal place though, about 4 miles northeast of Sunshine and highway 65 in Springfield with a CM4228 about 20 feet off the ground.

I'm in Ozark and I got nothing. I didn't even know there was an issue until Fringe failed to record. This station is full power?
post #5082 of 5449
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Originally Posted by tch View Post

I'm in Ozark and I got nothing. I didn't even know there was an issue until Fringe failed to record. This station is full power?

There's a letter from the KRBK GM just posted here.
post #5083 of 5449
Thanks for the link. He talked about increased power in the coming WEEKS... so I guess FOX is dead to me for the forseeable future.
post #5084 of 5449
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Originally Posted by tch View Post

Thanks for the link. He talked about increased power in the coming WEEKS... so I guess FOX is dead to me for the forseeable future.

Me too. I live 10 miles southwest of Ava, so even when they have everything up & running its not certain I'll pick up their signal.
post #5085 of 5449
Maybe it's just me but the former FOX (channel 27.1) now looks completely worthless. I deleted it.
post #5086 of 5449
I've been able to pull in the new Fox affiliate for about a week now, using one of the new "helper" towers here in Springfield. However, I still have no guide data on my Tivo Premiere. So I don't watch anything on it, if I can't time shift and skip through commercials, it is the same thing as not getting the channel for me

Anyone know the proper way to alert TiVo of this issue, what info I should send them, etc.?

Thanks,
post #5087 of 5449
IIRC, Tribune Media provides the guide for Tivo. Have the station contact them to get the data added. Also, check the AVS HDTV Recorder sub-forum or the Tivo Community forums for help with this issue.

Good luck.
post #5088 of 5449
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Originally Posted by arxaw View Post

IIRC, Tribune Media provides the guide for Tivo. Have the station contact them to get the data added. Also, check the AVS HDTV Recorder sub-forum or the Tivo Community forums for help with this issue.

KRBK has been added to Tribune/TMS Datadirect listings for the Springfield area. I opened a lineup trouble ticket a couple weeks ago and got a final response yesterday that it had been completed.

They're also finally sending PSIP guide data over the air now, although it seems to be titles only and no episode descriptions.
post #5089 of 5449
I have guide data for KRBK 49-1 RF 49, but nothing for KRBK 49-1 RF 21 which is what I get when I scan.

I've reported this problem twice using this page:

http://www.tivo.com/setupandsupport/...neup_tool.html

They alway respond by saying the lineup issue has been solved because their Mediacom QAM channels are correct. I can't get though to them that this is an OTA issue and has nothing to do with Mediacom or QAM.




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Originally Posted by lawdawg View Post

I've been able to pull in the new Fox affiliate for about a week now, using one of the new "helper" towers here in Springfield. However, I still have no guide data on my Tivo Premiere. So I don't watch anything on it, if I can't time shift and skip through commercials, it is the same thing as not getting the channel for me

Anyone know the proper way to alert TiVo of this issue, what info I should send them, etc.?

Thanks,
post #5090 of 5449
It may not be worth going through all the motions of getting the data moved to 21 when they're going to have 49 lit up in a few weeks and you'll have to get it all changed back to 49 again.

- Trip
post #5091 of 5449
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Originally Posted by tch View Post

Maybe it's just me but the former FOX (channel 27.1) now looks completely worthless. I deleted it.

What about TMZ now on @ 7:00pm? That doesn't do anything for you?
post #5092 of 5449
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Originally Posted by squeakybirnbaum View Post

What about TMZ now on @ 7:00pm? That doesn't do anything for you?

They moved TMZ to 1:00 AM.
post #5093 of 5449
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Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post

They moved TMZ to 1:00 AM.

The 3 viewers must have raised a stink.
post #5094 of 5449
We now have KRBK in HD on dish. Still haven't turned power up for ota that I can tell though. I guess more power will be from the new tower, is that correct? Then we will rescan or select channel 49 to receive the higher power, is that correct.
Can't figure dish and several other carriers using channel 5 unless some other change is in the future.
post #5095 of 5449
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Originally Posted by MRUSS View Post

Still haven't turned power up for ota that I can tell though.

Not yet.

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I guess more power will be from the new tower, is that correct?

Correct.

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Then we will rescan or select channel 49 to receive the higher power, is that correct.

Correct.

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Can't figure dish and several other carriers using channel 5 unless some other change is in the future.

My local CW affiliate here in Virginia brands as "CW5" with the 5 being the cable channel, and one of the two satellite companies carries it on channel 5 as well. (The other uses 21, if I recall correctly, which is the over-the-air mapped channel number.) I suspect the same is true for KRBK.

- Trip
post #5096 of 5449
Today, work started on a transmitter shack at the base of the 2650 E Division St tower, where they have a construction permit for 170 KW on channel 49.

It's hard to estimate the schedule, but it they haul in a pre-fab shelter with equipment inside like the cellular companies do, they could be on the air fairly quickly.

No sign of an antenna or transmission like on the property yet though.
post #5097 of 5449
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Originally Posted by rhoops View Post

Today, work started on a transmitter shack at the base of the 2650 E Division St tower, where they have a construction permit for 170 KW on channel 49.

It's hard to estimate the schedule, but it they haul in a pre-fab shelter with equipment inside like the cellular companies do, they could be on the air fairly quickly.

No sign of an antenna or transmission like on the property yet though.

Thanks. Please post any updates.
post #5098 of 5449
The transmitter shack is trapezoid shaped to fit within the existing chain link fence around the tower. It's over 12 feet tall and made of a wood frame with particle board sides. No roof yet.

Today they have an auger truck preparing to set a telephone phone, supposedly to put a satellite dish on. Since the Fox Network sat equipment is at the studio on Enterprise, the only thing they might need a satellite for is as a studio to transmitter link.

I wonder if they have to distribute the signal to the 4 transmitters via satellite to get the timing right. If so the existing sat feed would remain up indefinatey.

Does anyone have the exact parms (symbol rate and FEC)for this digital feed?

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Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post

Thanks. Please post any updates.
post #5099 of 5449
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Originally Posted by rhoops View Post

The transmitter shack is trapezoid shaped to fit within the existing chain link fence around the tower. It's over 12 feet tall and made of a wood frame with particle board sides. No roof yet.

Today they have an auger truck preparing to set a telephone phone, supposedly to put a satellite dish on. Since the Fox Network sat equipment is at the studio on Enterprise, the only thing they might need a satellite for is as a studio to transmitter link.

I wonder if they have to distribute the signal to the 4 transmitters via satellite to get the timing right. If so the existing sat feed would remain up indefinatey.

Does anyone have the exact parms (symbol rate and FEC)for this digital feed?

Source: http://www.lyngsat.com/galaxy16.html
Symbol: 7328
Fec: 8/9

KRBK is on Galaxy 16/99 degree west.

They're going to use the satellite permanently to the best of my knowledge. It beats putting up numerous STLs to the various transmitters. As far as I know that's how they're feeding RF 21 as it is.
post #5100 of 5449
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Originally Posted by sneaky snooper View Post

Source: http://www.lyngsat.com/galaxy16.html
Symbol: 7328
Fec: 8/9

KRBK is on Galaxy 16/99 degree west.

They're going to use the satellite permanently to the best of my knowledge. It beats putting up numerous STLs to the various transmitters. As far as I know that's how they're feeding RF 21 as it is.

When they go full power they'll be on RF 49, right?
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