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post #5281 of 5450
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

I reran my Longley-Rice maps for KRBK using what I've learned over the last few weeks. I was not surprised to find the coverage on the Springfield and Lebanon/Osage Beach transmitters turned out to be wildly optimistic in my original maps. They now better reflect reality.

- Trip

Thanks Trip.
Is this still the correct link?
post #5282 of 5450
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

I reran my Longley-Rice maps for KRBK using what I've learned over the last few weeks. I was not surprised to find the coverage on the Springfield and Lebanon/Osage Beach transmitters turned out to be wildly optimistic in my original maps. They now better reflect reality.

- Trip

Thanks Trip! KRBK sucks so bad...
post #5283 of 5450
Trip (or anyone else), do you have any idea why KRBK has a C-band feed up on 99W?
post #5284 of 5450
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Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post

Thanks Trip.
Is this still the correct link?

My apologies; no, this is the new link.

http://www.rabbitears.info/contour.p...ap=Y&contour=N

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Originally Posted by phlatwound View Post

Trip (or anyone else), do you have any idea why KRBK has a C-band feed up on 99W?

I assume that's how they're getting the signal to the five transmitter sites.

- Trip
post #5285 of 5450
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

...I assume that's how they're getting the signal to the five transmitter sites.

- Trip

Interesting, thanks, I never even considered that, thought they might use fiber but it's probably not available at the transmitter sites.

If I ever get to any of the sites I will look for the downlink dish.
post #5286 of 5450
Hello all!
Been reading this forum for a couple of years, but never posted before.

I live about 3 miles west of Fordland, MO, and an having a heck of a time getting FOX over-the-air.

Can anyone recommend a good omni-directional outdoor antenna?

I am considering a Channel Master "CM-3000A SMARTtenna Omnidirectional digital HDTV", but haven't read any reviews of it, and I don't really want to spend $100.

I currently have a DB 4 which doesn't work very well....I think it's because I'm so close to the towers in Fordland.
I have it mounted on the roof on a 12-foot mast. It's about 25-30 feet above ground level.

Your suggestions are appreciated!!
post #5287 of 5450
Welcome.
Omni antennas seldom work well. They usually receive stations equally poorly in all directions.

You will need to re-aim your antenna toward one of the fox towers, which are not at Fordland.
post #5288 of 5450
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Originally Posted by bvinson View Post

Hello all!
Been reading this forum for a couple of years, but never posted before.

I live about 3 miles west of Fordland, MO, and an having a heck of a time getting FOX over-the-air.

Can anyone recommend a good omni-directional outdoor antenna?

I am considering a Channel Master "CM-3000A SMARTtenna Omnidirectional digital HDTV", but haven't read any reviews of it, and I don't really want to spend $100.

I currently have a DB 4 which doesn't work very well....I think it's because I'm so close to the towers in Fordland.
I have it mounted on the roof on a 12-foot mast. It's about 25-30 feet above ground level.

Your suggestions are appreciated!!

Try pointing your antenna toward the Springfield tower. It's in NW Springfield.
post #5289 of 5450
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Originally Posted by heyitsme01 View Post

Try pointing your antenna toward the Springfield tower. It's in NW Springfield.

No, its in NE Springfield, at 2650 E. Division St.
post #5290 of 5450
Thanks for the replies.
I guess I wasn't really clear in my first post.
I know where all the towers are in relation to my location.

I'm looking for a "wife friendly" way to receive all the SGF HD channels.

I can get FOX if I aim the antenna towards their tower on East Division (NW of me), but then I lose all the other channels coming from the Fordland (E of me) towers.

Also, I think my DB 4 is too directional....meaning, given my close proximity to the Fordland towers, I get great reception when I aim the antenna towards a specific tower, but then I don't get a very good signal from the others. Hope that makes sense. Weather and wind seem to really affect the signals too.

Could I add another DB4 (or similar) to my mast, and have one point towards Fordland, and the other towards FOX, and then combine the signals???

Thanks!
post #5291 of 5450
WOW! No replies in 6 days.
Guess I will have to find help somewhere else.
post #5292 of 5450
You can try that, but combining antennas is a crap shoot. It works sometimes, but it often just results in degraded reception, due to added multipath. If weather & wind are affecting your reception, it sounds like you already have more multipath than your particular tuner can handle.

How many degrees do you have to move your current antenna to go between the two tower sites?
post #5293 of 5450
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Originally Posted by arxaw View Post

You can try that, but combining antennas is a crap shoot. It works sometimes, but it often just results in degraded reception, due to added multipath. If weather & wind are affecting your reception, it sounds like you already have more multipath than your particular tuner can handle.

How many degrees do you have to move your current antenna to go between the two tower sites?

Thanks for the reply.
Almost 180*.
KY3 (NBC) and KSPR (ABC) are at 88*, and KRBK (FOX) is at 287* from my location.
post #5294 of 5450
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Originally Posted by bvinson View Post

Thanks for the reply.
Almost 180*.
KY3 (NBC) and KSPR (ABC) are at 88*, and KRBK (FOX) is at 287* from my location.

Maybe a rotor antenna...
post #5295 of 5450
Try removing the reflector grid from the DB4. That will make it bidirectional. All you need is a drill to take out the aluminum rivets. Easily reversed, if necessary, with some screws and nuts. Since there's no such thing as a free lunch, don't be surprised if this has adverse effects elsewhere. Still it's worth a try.

The "best" solution would be a separate antenna pointed at the nearest KRBK transmitter and combined with the main DB4 using a channel 49 Jointenna. Since those tuned for the channel you need are now about as easy to find as the legendary Sasquatch, it may not be inexpensive to implement this idea. TinLee up in Toronto can do it, but they're quite expensive (AC-7 filters).
post #5296 of 5450
Yes. Remove that reflector, if easily doable.
post #5297 of 5450
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Originally Posted by arxaw View Post

Yes. Remove that reflector, if easily doable.

I'll give it a try.
post #5298 of 5450
Newbie...may be relocating to Springfield with girlfriend in a year...looking for possible employment in broadcast or technology (2 way, telephone, IT, etc)...Thought I would drop a note here and start looking...if you have any feelers or want more info, please email me private. (Girlfriend is a Civil Egr for the railroad...I COULD be a stay at home dad but......nnnnnnaaaaawwwww dont want that!). Have extensive experience in AM/FM/DTV transmissions and audio studios. Have been chief engineer of major AM/FMs in Texas and have worked for FOX Sports TOC in Houston so know DTV aspects (Just ask Gary as www.MSWDTV.COM ...he knows my background) I would appreciate any prelim info. It may be a year before She is ready for me to relocate (some professional and personal issues to take care of)...Thanks
post #5299 of 5450
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Originally Posted by bvinson View Post

I'll give it a try.

bvinson,
Did removing the reflector work?
post #5300 of 5450
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Originally Posted by BPTTV View Post

Newbie...may be relocating to Springfield with girlfriend in a year...looking for possible employment in broadcast or technology (2 way, telephone, IT, etc)...Thought I would drop a note here and start looking...if you have any feelers or want more info, please email me private. (Girlfriend is a Civil Egr for the railroad...I COULD be a stay at home dad but......nnnnnnaaaaawwwww dont want that!). Have extensive experience in AM/FM/DTV transmissions and audio studios. Have been chief engineer of major AM/FMs in Texas and have worked for FOX Sports TOC in Houston so know DTV aspects (Just ask Gary as www.MSWDTV.COM ...he knows my background) I would appreciate any prelim info. It may be a year before She is ready for me to relocate (some professional and personal issues to take care of)...Thanks

KRBK was looking for an engineer a while back. I guess wile e coyote didn't work out.
post #5301 of 5450
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Originally Posted by arxaw View Post

bvinson,
Did removing the reflector work?

No.
post #5302 of 5450
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Originally Posted by sneaky snooper View Post

KRBK was looking for an engineer a while back. I guess wile e coyote didn't work out.

Thanks for the note. Didnt see anything on their web site; guess it is filled.
post #5303 of 5450
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KRBK HD

James Halsey
Just wondering if you will ever add any secondary stations like ThisTV, RetoTV or MYTV ?
they woud be a great addition to the Springfield market

KRBK HD
Hello James, Thanks for the message AND for your interest in KRBK Programming! A D2 channel is something in our crosshairs, yes....but I do not have a launch date, as of now. Still being in our first year as FOX - we have a number of priorities on out plate. BUT, since we do have a dual affiliation, with both FOX and MYN, a D2 would allow us some creative options for building a secondary lineup with a true 'primetime' anchor. Stay tuned, and thanks for watching.
post #5304 of 5450
Their top priority should be to improve their OTA coverage.
As of now it really sux.
post #5305 of 5450
Anyone else not seeing OTA guide data for KRBK? It has been missing for about three days or so now (for me at least).
post #5306 of 5450
In order to see guide data, one would have to be in KRBK's small signal area. frown.gif
post #5307 of 5450
Pardon this entry please, but I'm trying to find my way back into getting this site to work after the recent revamp toward the end of May. Last comment received by me concerned a KRBK matter. Surely there's been comment since then. This is more or less a test with the hope that I can get back into the Springfield/Joplin discussions.
post #5308 of 5450
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Originally Posted by JopMan3305 View Post

Pardon this entry please, but I'm trying to find my way back into getting this site to work after the recent revamp toward the end of May. Last comment received by me concerned a KRBK matter. Surely there's been comment since then. This is more or less a test with the hope that I can get back into the Springfield/Joplin discussions.
Yours is the first post since my last, 2 weeks, 3 days ago.
post #5309 of 5450
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Originally Posted by Chuck44 View Post

Yours is the first post since my last, 2 weeks, 3 days ago.
Thanks, Chuck44, for your reply! I was beginning to think there was something seriously wrong with my Forum set-up. Now, a weight off my mind.
post #5310 of 5450
Has anyone else lost KOLR (10-1)? Lost it yesterday (Friday).
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