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post #31 of 7386
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Originally posted by JRDRY
Was looking at the HDTV menu in the 700's of my digital box and it's showing NBC w/ east coast times i/e Leno @ 8:30pm WTF? Are we going to get a national NBC east coast feed rather than local KNBC?

I noticed the same thing Monday evening, forgot to mention it. Since about the best HD program NBC has is Leno, that might be ok. Other locals I'm not so sure about.


Turt....good points...always good to experiment and see what works best, or least "looks" best to "your" eyes...

We all look through our own set of rose colored glasses...err...eyes!


I do currently run Composite from my DTV STB....it has a S-Video port but it does not seem to be enabled. I'll have to experiment with the new box when it comes.....
post #32 of 7386
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Originally posted by JETninja
I thought it went...

Worse...

1. RG45 (or whatever that Cable is...)

2. Composite

3. S-Video

4. Component

5. Them new fangled connectors...DVI and others..

Best....

I think 2 through 4 are in the right order as far as best potential picture quality, given a good signal source. 1 and 5 might not really belong on this list as they aren't analog video standards.
post #33 of 7386
For #1 I just meant that Cable that come outta the Wall!

Forget the name of it, thats all!
post #34 of 7386
Right, but the signal in that cable that comes out of the wall has to be converted into composite, s-video, or component video, it's not a different version of a video signal. It's the source, not the output. I'm just being pedantic, I guess.
post #35 of 7386
When Cox installed my 5100, they brought the component cables (which were actually a 5-cable bundle, having included 2 audio cables to go straight to your TV) and a seperate optical cable for 5.1. But the tech has to pick all the stuff up in the morning, so if they are not practiced on these installs, they may forget the cables (try to remind them before if you've got an install scheduled).

Overall, performance is pretty good. The only oddity I noticed is that the SD still looks better through the standard cable running through the 5100 instead of going through the component cables - so I switch inputs on my TV. However, this may very well be a function of my TV.

But the HD material is dangerously mesmerizing. I tend to forget what I'm watching and just stare at the picture.

-D
post #36 of 7386
All the programming has been west coast feeds and times.
post #37 of 7386
Thread Starter 
So the Menu is wrong, Ok no prob.

Does anyone know if you can get HBO/SHO without going thru the box? I have a tv in the bedroom that has replayTV integrated but I want to use the ReplayTV menu, can the installer "turn on" this signal or I guess premium content is scrambled? Would sure like to "tivo" some of my premium shows.
post #38 of 7386
So who here is scheduled to get theirs installed? I called this morning to ask and the guy said he would give my name and number to the HD department or whatever.. I guess I'm awaiting "the call" that was mentioned previously...

I'm probably gonna go all-out and get the Discovery/ESPN package as well. Might as well, it's only money, what's another $10 or $20/mo to the $100/mo I'm giving them already (cable + internet).
post #39 of 7386
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Waiting right now. My time is 4-6pm wed.

Call the Customer Service line and tell them you want an appt. for install. I was on the list but was never called so I called Mon. at 5pm and got my install for today.
post #40 of 7386
Mine is 10a-12p Wed. (next Wednesday... at least I hope they said next Wednesday cause they woulda been standing around at my house if it was today). And yes, Andy, just call and tell them you are on "the list" for HD install and you never got a call so you were told to call to setup an appointment.

I've got Disc, HBO-HD, and SHO-HD from Dish. It'll be interesting to A/B the feeds to see if there is any difference (there shouldn't be, to my knowledge).

-T
post #41 of 7386
I just called and am scheduled for Saturday.

Based on some of the postings here, is it worth keeping the old box for the S-video output? I use an HTPC with the H3D card that produces a very nice picture for the digital channels on my projector. I don't want to sacrifice it for the extra HBO HD channel I will get (I already get all the OTA channels from San Diego).

I appreciate any advice.
post #42 of 7386
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I"m up and running!!!!

Initial observations....

1. DiscoveryHD is mesmerizing! All I can say is WOW!
2. KNBC has a better picture on ch 704 than 004 but has bars on the side. I think it has the bars because my tv thinks it's getting a hdtv signal. I usually have my tv stretch 4:3 to 16:9
3. The baseball game on ESPN is in HDTV right now. They seem to have only a certain # of HDTV cams because they went up to the booth and the picture sucked, then back to the field and crystal clear again. Hmmm?
4. My equipment is sensing the signals and sound is great, I am getting DD and PLII signals from some of the different HBO/SHO's
5. Ice Age on HBO HD was very crisp.

Tech guy said the following (he seemed like an a/v junkie and knowledgable, knew the ins and outs of calibration etc.)

1. He's had the 5100 stb for 4 months as a tester.
2. Next channels coming will probably be the other networks (he said UPN is close and the others are coming soon, they are "working very hard")
3. By end of year should have a new PVR box, and InDemand HD movies. Doesn't know if pvr will record HD.

If you have specific questions I'll try to answer here as best I can with my limited amount of knowledge.
post #43 of 7386
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Originally posted by JRDRY
I"m up and running!!!!

2. Next channels coming will probably be the other networks (he said UPN is close and the others are coming soon, they are "working very hard")
3. By end of year should have a new PVR box, and InDemand HD movies. Doesn't know if pvr will record HD.

Thanks for the update! Regarding the coming channels, they've been "working very hard" for over a year now.

The new box may be the Motorola 5200 if it's coming as soon as this year.

Personally, I'm leaning harder towards switching to directv - in large part for a convenience issue. I have had an OTA tuner for a couple weeks for the locals, primarily for HD. Of course the PQ on all channels is far superior. So my wife has to navigate through 2 boxes (unless she watches the analog channels It's not too tough with a programmable remote, but still not the easiest. I think once Cox gets all the locals and InDemand, etc. I may come back. Perhaps I'll sign up for a year to get a good deal then reevaluate.
post #44 of 7386
JRDRY, I don't think you should be applying stretch to HD...it is naturally stretched. (you do have a widescreen tv?) Mine wont even allow it I think...Also, no way to get much of anything above the 70's I think without the 2100 STB.

neyugnt.....I just called this afternoon..told them I've been on the List for like 9 months. He said no problem, signed me up. (everything) Mine is currently Monday 10am....but I'm on a standby if someone backs out. I may see if I can move the Monday to later, I have to be here!


I may keep the 2100, move it to the Master Bedroom Can boot wife or kids there if need be! Cant put it in boys room, HBO/SHO get interesting at times as early as 9pm!
post #45 of 7386
JRDRY-

What was the deal with cables? Did Cox provide everything you needed? I know how you feel about staring at picture. I get
HD OTA from San Diego and never watched so much public television in my life .

Robert
post #46 of 7386
Thread Starter 
I'm not stretching the HDTV content, just the regular stuff. And yes I do have widscreen, Hitachi 51swx...

All cables provided (1 component cable about 6ft, 1 Optical about 3-4ft) he set up the audio to go into the optical slot I made available and ran the analog signal to the respective channel.

I believe there is an issue w/ sound. Something like analog not going thru the optical feed?, so that you need 2 inputs? Does this sound right? I have no issues so either my Onkyo 6.1 receiver is detecting and decoding just fine or it's not an issue.
post #47 of 7386
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Quote:


Originally posted by turt
The new box may be the Motorola 5200 if it's coming as soon as this year.


I believe he said they have some 5200's that they are tinkering with right now. That one might be a purchase deal though as I don't see them swapping out the brand new 5100's they are just now installing.

I wish they'd set the menu to west coast time.....
post #48 of 7386
JRDRY, what about the standard digital stations? Does the new box output them through s-video like the old one? This is important for the other HBO channels I watch...

I guess getting on the list did not do much after all, because they are just signing up callers. They did not check where I was on the list.

I also enjoy the San Diego stations I hope that Cable HDTV has addressed the audio dropout problems that still keep happening on OTA HD broadcasts.

Regarding NBC - I think only the Tonight Show is in 1080i. Prime time is generally in 480p, I think. Looks OK but not hi-def and has the bars on the sides.
post #49 of 7386
Hmmm?? I wonder if they did mean this Wednesday, although they did not leave a note that I could see. That'd be weird, since you called after me, and got a Monday install, and I'm set for next Wednesday? I'll have to call them tomorrow morning and sort it all out. =)

-T
post #50 of 7386
JRDRY, any word on any of the HD-NETs? If they get the HD-NETs I'd pretty much cancel my whole DISH sub. Also, regarding ESPN-HD, how's the quality, compared to other sporting events you may have seen in HD?

-T
post #51 of 7386
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Originally posted by Rich4av
JRDRY, what about the standard digital stations? Does the new box output them through s-video like the old one?

It outputs them through the component wires. I have the option to watch the regular analog and digital through the coax the way he set it up. Not sure if s-video is an option, check the link that Turt posted for specs.

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Regarding NBC - I think only the Tonight Show is in 1080i. Prime time is generally in 480p, I think. Looks OK but not hi-def and has the bars on the sides.

Last night was strange, back to back Law and Order, 9p-10p was 480i w/ black bars, 10p-11p was 1080i wide.

I fell asleep before LENO!!! Shucks. But with moving my business to a larger facilty I'm a little worn out.

As far as HDnet, I asked the tech and he said that he was also interested in HDnet but that COX cable was not particularly impressed with the content. Said that it was too repetitive which I don't really understand because there isn't much variety on DiscoveryHD. More than likely a money or Mark Cuban issue. He seemed to really think that the other broadcast networks were not that far off, as COX knows about reception issues for it's residents and the edge it would have if it had all the broadcast stations.
post #52 of 7386
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tech guy also gave me this link for broadcasts in HDTV. I'm sure most of you know of it.

http://www.hdtvgalaxy.com/broad.html
post #53 of 7386
Looks like I'll be waiting until they at least get the other major networks before I sign up (hopefully before the fall). Is NBC-HD currently free with the HD box rental or is there an additional charge for it? It would be great if I could just have the cable box for HD locals.
post #54 of 7386
NBC (and HBO and SHO if you subscribe to them already) are all included with the rental of the 5100 box which is $10. Only ESPN and Discovery are extra.
post #55 of 7386
My TV only allows HD through AV4 & 5. AV1-3 are for non HD, so I'l have to use the Composite or S-Video outputs for that. I select AV1-5 depending on the Source I want to watch.

AV1 - DTV (channel 2 though digital music channel 972, minus any 700 series HD channels)

AV2 - unused - VCR soon

AV3 - Camcorder (side of TV)

AV4 - Progressive Scan DVD (or HD is using Component Connections)

AV5 - HD (through HD15 Connector)


Working with Philips, they're little mistake in their documentation is affecting thousands of consumers, they keep getting calls looking for a "DB15" breakout Cable, and of course they have no source for those! I pointed out its a "HD15" and they wanted my Cable source, which I gladly gave. Expect a document revision soon!
post #56 of 7386
Talked to a guy at Cox. He was VERY polite and helpful. Also very blunt. He said Cox is actively trying NOT to promote HDTV as this is a "soft" launch.

But since I've got all the other crap they offer, he gave me an install appointment of July 3.

If I get the HD and the HD Tier, I was able to add Showtime (all 10 Showtime channels plus the HD Showtime) for another 5 bucks.

Max package so far is $25 over and above current cable.

Thanks for the insight guys!

EDJ
post #57 of 7386
JRDRY--

What's the scoop with ESPN?. Are they showing all the programs in HD or are they passing through the D signal. 16.9 or 4.3 ?

Robert
post #58 of 7386
Thread Starter 
Quote:


Originally posted by robhair
JRDRY--

What's the scoop with ESPN?. Are they showing all the programs in HD or are they passing through the D signal. 16.9 or 4.3 ?

Robert

ESPN is AWESOME, I have yet to see black bars (only watched NBA draft, Sportscenter, and yesterdays HD Baseball) but they seem to be passing thru a 16.9 signal on the regular D signal. The picture has been crystal clear and I have no use for the regular ESPN channel now. I'll let y'all know whether they pass thru a 16.9 for something like Toughman or Monster Truck rally

IMO $10 bucks has been worth it for Discovery and ESPN, the 2 best channel offerings I've experienced (HBO/SHO a semi-close second)
post #59 of 7386
Thread Starter 
They(ESPN) have got to be pushing the D signal thru and transmitting in 16.9 since commercials are 16.9, does this sound right?
post #60 of 7386
ESPN-HD has both original HD programming and upconverted regular programming. Check their website for what's on ESPN-HD at any given time.
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