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post #361 of 7386
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Originally posted by Sydor25
Anyone else getting audio/video dropouts during the Laker-Piston game 2 tonight? I had some last night during game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals, but it is worse tonight.

I just want to know if it is just my cable box or if it is an ABC/Cox problem.

This was a KABC issue. OTA and other cable systems had the problems.
post #362 of 7386
OTA San Diego also had the problem
Robert
post #363 of 7386
It has been a while since I have asked... have they activated the DVI in the new HD boxes yet?
post #364 of 7386
Quote:
Originally posted by skfields01
It has been a while since I have asked... have they activated the DVI in the new HD boxes yet?

I got a response yesterday from Cox OC to my questions, first they apologized for giving me conflicting information and indicated nothing they told me was "official" yet. They like to keep thier support people in the dark until all the details are final to avoid leaking incorrect information... but they shared what they knew or suspected anyway...

Here are paraphrased answers:

1) DVI - Not yet, very liekly by the end of the year

2) DVR when - Targeting September 2004

3) DVR Box - Very likely the Moto 6208 which is HD since Moto does not have any other DVR product available anywhere.

4) Firewire / IEEE 1394 - Quoting (without permission) from thier email:
Quote:
We currently support the 1394 Firewire feature but we only have one box
that supports this, it is the Motorola 6200HD which is a High Definition
box. You must have an HDTV set to use this and this must be ordered
through a supervisor. You must supply your own 1394 cable.
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Customers who call in and request this may require a special converter
and the process may take up to 30 days to complete. Customers are
advised that they will receive a call back in 10 business days after
they request it.
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1394 Limitations:
The 1394 port is not 2 way capable at this time.
Not all Cox systems will have the Cox Interactive Program Guide (IPG)
available at first.
There will be NO graphic overlay such as a volume bar or IPG.
PPV can only be ordered through the web site or from a Customer Service
Rep.
Entertainment-on-Demand (EOD) is not available.
Closed Captioning may not be viewed on some HD channels.
1394 is not compatible with equipment that does not have the Copy
Protection (5C or HDCP).
If a customer cannot view a program, they cannot record it. This is due
to copy protection.
No analog channels will be available through this connection.

post #365 of 7386
Quote:
Originally posted by skfields01
It has been a while since I have asked... have they activated the DVI in the new HD boxes yet?

My 6200 box is at firmware version 7.12 now and both DVI and 1394 are supported. It was updated automatically about a few weeks ago.
post #366 of 7386
chiifac,

Have you actually hooked-up the DVI and get it to work? Does the DVI port have a picture and on-screen guide?
post #367 of 7386
skfields01,

Yes, the DVI port from my 6200 worked flawlessly with my Sony GWIII. But for my TV, the PQ at 1080i is about the same between component and DVI and you do get the on-screen guide.
post #368 of 7386
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Originally posted by chiifac
skfields01,

But for my TV, the PQ at 1080i is about the same between component

skfields01,

Thanks for the information.

I was wondering if you have applied any tweaks to the component input vs. the DVI input. Remember that the Sony will discriminate between the two, the settings for 1080i component and 1080i DVI are different! See UMR does GWIII and XBR. This may account for the lack of difference between the two inputs.

niesman
post #369 of 7386
You can now sign up to get more information on the HD-DVR scheduled for September.

See http://www.cox.com/oc/DVR/
post #370 of 7386
I just checked my Firmware. It reads 7.12. Does this mean that my DVI and Firewire have been enabled? If so... I am off to buy some new cords.
When using DVI... are you still able to use the menu/online guide?
I know that with Firewire you cannot though.
post #371 of 7386
In spite of receiving information to the contrary from Cox, I hooked up DVI last night and it's working!

Guess it's time to start seriously considering a DVI swtich...
post #372 of 7386
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Originally posted by skfields01
...When using DVI... are you still able to use the menu/online guide?

Yes via DVI everything (menu/guides) look exactly the same as when it was hooked up via HD component.

I have occasionally expereinced the "NO Signal" bug when switching between inputs. This bug between my Samsung HLN and my Moto 6100 has been discussed elsewhere. The reasoning is something about it losing the HDCP handshake. Clicking the cable box off/on instantly fixes the problem and it does not happen all the time.
post #373 of 7386
Is it even worth it to go out and spend $100.00 on a nice set of DVI cables for this? I mean... do you get a better picture hooking it up through DVI as opposed through Component? Currently Component looks great in HD, but SD is another matter altogether. The bottom line... going through DVI, will SD look significantly better with DVI than with Component?
Any thoughts or personal reviews would be greatly appreciated!
post #374 of 7386
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Originally posted by skfields01
Is it even worth it to go out and spend $100.00 on a nice set of DVI cables for this?

First don't spend $100 on a "nice" (err.. over priced) set of DVI cables. You should only be spending $20-50 depending on length.

This is the age old "it's a DIGITAL cable" debate, it either works or it doesn't.

Second, yes I think DVI makes a substantial difference in HD picture quality over component. It's makes "some" difference in SD picture quality.

My Samsung HD931 Up-converting DVD player had been hooked up via DVI to my Samsung HLN567 and I swapped it over to Component (720p) to allow me to hook the Moto 6100 STB box up instead and was AMAZED by the degradation in picture quality. I figured the DVD itself was really on 480p and was getting up-converted so it wouldn't make that big of a difference but boy did it.

I'm now debating on buying a 4x1 Gefen DVI switcher or to hold out a year for receivers with DVI switching to come out... FWIW, I realized I'd need 4x1 not just a 2x1 when I started thinking about the potential in the near future to want to hook up a DVR and/or HTPC in addition to the STB and DVD player.
post #375 of 7386
Well, I'll pick up a DVI cable. Worst case scenario... is that If I can't see a quality increase in the cable picture, I can use the DVI cable for one of the upcoming 1080i DVD players that are hitting the stores by Christmas. I had the Samsung HD931 for a while, but returned it because I thought the pic was a bit on the grainy side for my taste... atleast on my Mitsubishi Diamond WS-55813.
post #376 of 7386
Digital Connection's store on Beach Blvd in Huntington Beach has reasonably priced DVI cables (Open weekdays). You can also order online.
post #377 of 7386
Is it just me or has Cox increased the amount of compression they are using for the HD channels, specifically HBO and SHO? In the past few weeks I have noticed a sharp increase in the number of compression artifacts on movie material for these two stations. Movies on INHD and Discovery have not exhibited this problem ( No it is not my TV!, far too many times artifacts are blamed on the TV when it is the material being broadcast.) I have read of similar problems on the comcast/moto 6200 thread. Any thoughts or observations?

niesman
post #378 of 7386
I was thinking the same thing tonight. On Charlie's Angels, I saw many more instances of macro-blocking than I can remember on HBO HD. It looked pretty bad at times.
post #379 of 7386
I was watching the same movie last night! So it is not just me. Also, I am watching the hated Red Sox game on INHD and on close inspection there are some slight artifact effects. This does not bode well for future viewing as Cox expands its HD programming. They are obviously running out of bandwidth. Time to dump so analog garbage. However given the choice, I would prefer fewer channels with less compression over more HD channels with poor PQ. I would love to switch to Zoom but my marriage is more valuable than the endless debate with my wife on "why are we doing this?"

Does anyone with COX care to anonymously contribute to this discussion with some "off the record information"?


niesman
post #380 of 7386
Quote:
Originally posted by niesman
...Does anyone with COX care to anonymously contribute to this discussion with some "off the record information"?

Try calling or emailing Cox Orange County, frankly better to email as it'll get forwarded to someone that can actually answer your techinical question.

I've been AMAZED at the info they've given me in the past... it just took asking them the question.
post #381 of 7386
Is everyone on firmware 7.12?

I called Cox and asked them to cold-initialize my box. The second tech I called did it, but it's still 7.10. I wonder if my box is "locked" internally as I got one of the first boxes in OC. The second Tech said that they sometimes roll out firmware by streets, and distant neighbors could have different firmware levels (a bit hard to believe). I will wait to see what happens. I am in Laguna Beach. Firmware 7.10 has a handshake problem - when I turn on my projector, I get errors on DVI and component outputs and need to unplug the 6200 to get rid of the display.
post #382 of 7386
Is anyone having problem with ESPN HD in the last two days? I have broken pricture between 6PM and 10PM.
post #383 of 7386
EspnHD has been a little blocky over the last couple of days. It seems to come and go. Not real impressed with PQ of fox tonight.

Robert
post #384 of 7386
If you haven't noticed, the interest list for PVR now mentions HD-PVR.....

www.cox.com/oc/dvr/form.asp
post #385 of 7386
Yes, I've noticed problems with ESPN - HD also during the past few days (last night included).
post #386 of 7386
Looks like 7.15 was pushed last night. Saw both boxes run a load in the we morning, looked at the 6200 when I got up and it's now 7.15.

Not watched much HD over the last week (mostly been watching OLN..Its TOUR time!!) but there seems to be the occaisional pause on most any channel a few times an hour. Seems to be lessening as of late though.
post #387 of 7386
Last night, ESPDN HD continue break up, ABC also look bad compare to OTA
from my Samsung T351.
post #388 of 7386
Quote:


Originally posted by JETninja
Looks like 7.15 was pushed last night. Saw both boxes run a load in the we morning, looked at the 6200 when I got up and it's now 7.15.

Not watched much HD over the last week (mostly been watching OLN..Its TOUR time!!) but there seems to be the occaisional pause on most any channel a few times an hour. Seems to be lessening as of late though.

TDF locks up and pauses frequently due to all the helocopter and motorcycle mounted cameras. That's been true every year.

I haven't "noticed" it on other channels, but then I don't have time to watch other channels while the tour is on
post #389 of 7386
I am now up on 7.15 as well... About time...
post #390 of 7386
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Originally posted by Rich4av
I am now up on 7.15 as well... About time...

Has the handshake issue been resolved? I recently returned my DVI enabled 6200 for one without the DVI. The first was one of the early versions (like yours rich) and the SD channels started "pulsing", even when I used the component outputs. I could not stand it. I have been waiting for the handshake issue to be resolved before getting a new DVI 6200.

niesman
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