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post #6631 of 7386
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Originally Posted by BluesK1d View Post

Does anyone know of a current wiki chart or other maintained list of what Cox OC channels use copy protection? I am rolling from TiVo to a multi-room Media Center deployment and unfortunately other Media Center PCs cannot playback protected channel content in other rooms (this doesn't apply to extenders like the xbox).

Don't think there is one. Last I checked it's basically all the Premium (HBO, Showtime, Max, etc), PPV & VOD channels that are CCI protected and everything else is not. Certainly every channel I record from is not copy protected as I use MRV & TTG all the time on them. Kudos to Cox OC on that front.
post #6632 of 7386
Has anyone purchased their own Motorola M Card and successfully had CS activate it? I was going to pick up 4 of them for all my TiVos from eBay. Figured they should pay for themselves in a year. Or if that doesn't work, the magic words to say to save $55 for a truck roll for someone to read numbers over the phone?
post #6633 of 7386
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Originally Posted by mvalpreda View Post

Has anyone purchased their own Motorola M Card and successfully had CS activate it? I was going to pick up 4 of them for all my TiVos from eBay. Figured they should pay for themselves in a year. Or if that doesn't work, the magic words to say to save $55 for a truck roll for someone to read numbers over the phone?

You wont be able to untill July http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/14/t...-dramatically/ unless Cox allows it earlier.
post #6634 of 7386
Doesn't mean that Cox will actually allow you purchase your own M Card....although *I* read it that way!
post #6635 of 7386
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Originally Posted by mvalpreda View Post

Has anyone purchased their own Motorola M Card and successfully had CS activate it? I was going to pick up 4 of them for all my TiVos from eBay. Figured they should pay for themselves in a year. Or if that doesn't work, the magic words to say to save $55 for a truck roll for someone to read numbers over the phone?

Purchased CableCards off EBay, will most likely not work. CableCards are issued to Cable Providers only, they can be leased from the provider not purchased.

I highly doubt Cox would provision a CC purchased on EBay.
post #6636 of 7386
I doubt it as well. One can always hope. $25 each for an M Card on eBay means a payoff in 12.5 months on rental alone....pays for itself quickly on that truck roll.
post #6637 of 7386
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Originally Posted by mvalpreda View Post

I doubt it as well. One can always hope. $25 each for an M Card on eBay means a payoff in 12.5 months on rental alone....pays for itself quickly on that truck roll.

Purchase it and give it a shot and let us all know the answer.

As for CableCard self installs Cox will need to comply by July/Aug 2011, to the FCC mandate or come up with a very good reason for an exemption, or stop all self installs of cable modems and DVRs and STBs.

I called Cox last week just to see what they had to say regarding the status of self installs, and of course the CSR had no idea what I was talking about. She did not seem very bright period. She kept putting me on hold to go speak with someone else. Hopefully after our conversation she will investigate for herself.
post #6638 of 7386
HBO HD now appears in the ondemand menu. It looks promising (including a number of 3d movies) although when I try to access any of the content it gives a not currently available message. Hopefully its just not fully operational yet.

added: its now operational
post #6639 of 7386
I am about to up-grade my system as I'm out of inputs and my A/V Receiver has no HDMI ins or outs, just Component. Bought it 6 years ago. A couple of questions:
I notice some of you record outside of the DVR. I now burn to DVD from my Cox HD DVR into my Pani. DVD Burner. The best output on the DVR is S Video and the burned DVD's look OK at best. Anyone else doing it a better way??
I'm adding a Wireless Router, will it actually work wirelessly with say Netflix on the Blu-Ray player, as the modem is in the front of the house and the system is in the back???? I'm thinking about running a couple of Cat 5's back and hard wire it. How is everyone else doing it??? Thanx!
post #6640 of 7386
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Originally Posted by Ray Lucca View Post

I am about to up-grade my system as I'm out of inputs and my A/V Receiver has no HDMI ins or outs, just Component. Bought it 6 years ago. A couple of questions:
I notice some of you record outside of the DVR. I now burn to DVD from my Cox HD DVR into my Pani. DVD Burner. The best output on the DVR is S Video and the burned DVD's look OK at best. Anyone else doing it a better way??
I'm adding a Wireless Router, will it actually work wirelessly with say Netflix on the Blu-Ray player, as the modem is in the front of the house and the system is in the back???? I'm thinking about running a couple of Cat 5's back and hard wire it. How is everyone else doing it??? Thanx!

Power over ethernet will give you 85mbps. I run this from my bedroom to my HTPC on the other side of the house.
post #6641 of 7386
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Originally Posted by doug_p View Post

Back to the multi-room DVR discussion for a moment....

I live in Mission Viejo (top of hill s/w of Felipe/Barbadanes) and was told the other day (at the Cox store) that I am eligible for the service. I scheduled the installation for this Friday. I am getting a host and two satellites, which actually is cost neutral when swapped for my two existing DVRs. They are charging me $55 installation for the host and $15 each for the two satellites. I guess I'd normally be pissed about that but while I was at the Cox store I got them to do the 2-year price lock and they also reduced my bill an bunch - why I don't know, I guess I'm such a good guy LOL. But in any case I figure I'll be more than saving the $85 in reduced monthly charges anyway.

My house is 26 years old so I hope my RG-59 cabling is sufficient. While at the store I asked the rep about this rewiring requirement and he told me they do tests and if the signals can't pass correctly they will recommend the re-wire. But he thought it would be fine.

If anybody is interested I'll post how my experience goes after this Friday.

So are you all setup now? What did you end up getting? How's it working?
post #6642 of 7386
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Originally Posted by moyekj View Post

So are you all setup now? What did you end up getting? How's it working?

I was wondering when someone would ask. Funny story. After the last round of discussion, I decided that I just couldn't deal with less than the four tuners we have in the house now (2 DVRs), so I basically decided to give up on the multi-room DVR idea. Instead I decided to just get another HD (non DVR) tuner from Cox. So I went over to the Cox store in RSM and took a ticket to wait my turn for service so I could get one.

As I'm standing around waiting, a friend of mine who happens to work for Cox came into the store. He asked me what I was doing and I told him the whole story and how I ultimately decided against the Cisco multi-room DVR. And he says to me that Cox Atlanta HQ have been pushing the Cisco box on the Cox affiliates to sell but they just aren't ready for prime time. He told me I made a good decision because they are "having a lot of problems with those."

FWIW.
post #6643 of 7386
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Originally Posted by doug_p View Post

...He told me I made a good decision because they are "having a lot of problems with those."

That's hardly a surprise considering how ridiculously long they have been testing/deploying the hybrid Cisco/Moto system - now it's obvious why there were not mixed environments deployed in the past. You would think at least all Cisco Cox environments would have officially rolled them out by now though if that was the only issue.
post #6644 of 7386
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Originally Posted by moyekj View Post

That's hardly a surprise considering how ridiculously long they have been testing/deploying the hybrid Cisco/Moto system - now it's obvious why there were not mixed environments deployed in the past. You would think at least all Cisco Cox environments would have officially rolled them out by now though if that was the only issue.

One reason, perhaps the biggest reason, Cisco markets have not deployed the Trio IPG yet is due to the fact they are still having issues with the IPG change from SARA to Passport on existing Scientific Atlanta DVRs and STBs. There were significant delays with that deployment, and CS support is being overwhelmed with complaints and even simple questions. I would expect Las Vegas, a Cisco market, to launch Trio in the near future.

Cox Norfolk, VA which happens to be Motorola market was going to release Trio in Nov/Dec but they were also deploying SDV at the same time and decided to hold off on the Trio IPG to deal with those issues.

What I find interesting about the Cisco 8642 is that both TWC running Navigator, and Rodgers Cable Canada running the newly spruced up SARA IPG are both having substantial reports of customer complaints on it's usability and performance.
post #6645 of 7386
recently, my two tivos lost a bunch of channels (almost everything in the 40's). It's the same on a tivo Premiere and a tivo HD, so it's not the unit, and it's likely not the cards, since both machines can't receive those channels.

anyone else in Orange County having these tivo cable card problems?
post #6646 of 7386
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Originally Posted by tvmaster View Post

recently, my two tivos lost a bunch of channels (almost everything in the 40's). It's the same on a tivo Premiere and a tivo HD, so it's not the unit, and it's likely not the cards, since both machines can't receive those channels.

anyone else in Orange County having these tivo cable card problems?

You still tune those SD channels? I never tune any non-HD channel anymore but after reading your post I checked all channels from 40-49 (on my Premiere via Slingbox) and they all tuned fine for me.
Do you have Tuning Adapters and are they functioning properly? (i.e. amber light should be solid not flashing). Cox has transitioned many channels (especially SD channels) to SDV so you can't tune many channels without functioning TA.
post #6647 of 7386
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Originally Posted by moyekj View Post

You still tune those SD channels? I never tune any non-HD channel anymore but after reading your post I checked all channels from 40-49 (on my Premiere via Slingbox) and they all tuned fine for me.
Do you have Tuning Adapters and are they functioning properly? (i.e. amber light should be solid not flashing). Cox has transitioned many channels (especially SD channels) to SDV so you can't tune many channels without functioning TA.

yup, tuning adapters on each, and they are fine. I called Cox, and they made the channels magically appear again.
Not once, but later in the day, they did it again.
There's obviously some problem down in my hood', as they've been fine for almost a year.
post #6648 of 7386
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Originally Posted by tvmaster View Post


yup, tuning adapters on each, and they are fine. I called Cox, and they made the channels magically appear again.
Not once, but later in the day, they did it again.
There's obviously some problem down in my hood', as they've been fine for almost a year.

The only time I have ever seen a channel in the 40s is when I didn't hit the 7 button first. LOL

If it's not in HD, is it really worth watching? Maybe I am missing some great programming??
post #6649 of 7386
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Originally Posted by bigtuna View Post

The only time I have ever seen a channel in the 40s is when I didn't hit the 7 button first. LOL

If it's not in HD, is it really worth watching? Maybe I am missing some great programming??

hehe - I was trying to watch The Weather Channel (51) to see all the cool storm linkups. Amazingly, besides BBC HD NOT being available in Orange County, neither is TWC HD, which is what, the most watched cable channel in America? Cox - delivering what they want, when the want.
post #6650 of 7386
Hi, Everyone.

Just thought I'd drop a quick post to give an update on Cox's Plus Package availability.

I did a search on Cox Plus Package, and saw that a page has been created but not linked to on the public pages (http://ww2.cox.com/residential/orang...us-package.cox, has a link to the Trio guide as well).

So I called Cox, and asked if they had announced a date for availability. To my surprise, they told me they just got word the previous day (2/3/11) that it was being rolled out in Orange County, starting at least with Irvine. I told them that while I technically live in Tustin, Irvine is literally across the street from me. The tech said that he was told that if his computer takes my address for an order, then I've got it available in my area.

I told him I wanted to order it. The computer took my order. I'm scheduled for installation on Wednesday (I'm working until then, they could have taken me sooner). They require a tech install it (half off for a $35 charge, normally $70), and do not allow self-installs.

Also....it's about $5/month cheaper than I'm paying now.

I've told you everything I know, and probably can't answer any questions.
post #6651 of 7386
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Originally Posted by Pig Vomit View Post

Hi, Everyone.

Just thought I'd drop a quick post to give an update on Cox's Plus Package availability.

I did a search on Cox Plus Package, and saw that a page has been created but not linked to on the public pages (http://ww2.cox.com/residential/orang...us-package.cox, has a link to the Trio guide as well).

So I called Cox, and asked if they had announced a date for availability. To my surprise, they told me they just got word the previous day (2/3/11) that it was being rolled out in Orange County, starting at least with Irvine. I told them that while I technically live in Tustin, Irvine is literally across the street from me. The tech said that he was told that if his computer takes my address for an order, then I've got it available in my area.

I told him I wanted to order it. The computer took my order. I'm scheduled for installation on Wednesday (I'm working until then, they could have taken me sooner). They require a tech install it (half off for a $35 charge, normally $70), and do not allow self-installs.

Also....it's about $5/month cheaper than I'm paying now.

I've told you everything I know, and probably can't answer any questions.

BTW your original Cox link is broken.

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Originally Posted by Bryan_CoxPHX View Post

Cox Orange County, CA - 1/11
http://ww2.cox.com/wcm/en/residentia..._OC_lineup.pdf

Orange County, CA "Plus Pak" Addt'l HBOs Addt'l SHOs Addt'l Starz Addt'l Cinemax
DIY HD HBO2 East HD Showtime Showcase HD Starz Comedy HD Action Max HD
The Hub HD HBO Signature East HD TMC East HD Starz Kids & Family HD More Max East HD
Cooking Channel HD HBO Family East HD
SWRV HD HBO Latino East HD
 

The Plus Pak Channels have been in the line-up since 1-11-11
Dedicated AVS Thread - Cox Cable - Whole Home DVR Cisco

The Cox OC website is a little messed up at the moment:
http://ww2.cox.com/residential/orang...us-package.cox

Can't believe they added the Plus Package and still no BBC America HD for you folks?
post #6652 of 7386
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Originally Posted by Bryan_CoxPHX View Post

BTW your original Cox link is broken.



The Plus Pak Channels have been in the line-up since 1-11-11
Dedicated AVS Thread - Cox Cable - Whole Home DVR Cisco

The Cox OC website is a little messed up at the moment:
http://ww2.cox.com/residential/orang...us-package.cox

Can't believe they added the Plus Package and still no BBC America HD for you folks?

It's really just sad. There must be some political, geo-right-wing agenda that gives them the willies about BBC HD. There's just NO GOOD REASON why a network with SO many well produced shows, all in HD widescreen, would not be included in any channel pack.
It's all about money, and for whatever reason, COX hasn't had their greedy palms greased enough to take on this channel.
post #6653 of 7386
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Originally Posted by Pig Vomit View Post

Also....it's about $5/month cheaper than I'm paying now.

Does that include the multi-room DVR as well? And do you have current DVR offering?
post #6654 of 7386
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Originally Posted by moyekj View Post
Does that include the multi-room DVR as well? And do you have current DVR offering?
Yes, and yes. I've got two DVR boxes right now. Could be that the salesperson I talked to didn't get it right, since mine was apparently the first order he had taken (it hasn't been advertised yet). I'll know for sure on Wednesday.
post #6655 of 7386
Thanks to Pig Vomit letting us know that the 500GB Cisco DVR is finally available for Irvine residents, I phoned Cox this morning and ordered one.

Of course, the sales rep said Cox cable rates are expected to rise in March and I should go for the two-year rate lock...and if I agree to the two years, Cox would give me $100.

The Cox rep confirmed that should my Cisco DVR be a lemon, I can swap it out at a Cox store (assuming the store has one in stock (I would not need to pay Cox again to send an installer out with a new box).
post #6656 of 7386
Once you guys have multi-room DVR with 1 or more client boxes installed and had a chance to play with it would be interesting to hear some feedback on it.
post #6657 of 7386
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Originally Posted by moyekj View Post

Once you guys have multi-room DVR with 1 or more client boxes installed and had a chance to play with it would be interesting to hear some feedback on it.

It's installed. Tech was knowledgable guy with 14 years on....and this was his second installation. Took about 2.5 hours. He said Cox is being careful with initial installations, requiring techs to check signal strength on all outlets, no shortcuts, etc. He said this installation went easier than his first, but there is still a learning curve.

As for performance....it's nothing earth shattering. Treo is good, but in the end it's really nothing more than repackaged version of old guide with better graphics. Navigating through the guide is significantly faster, as are title/keyword searches. Lag time on switching channels is just a little bit worse than before (yes, slower). DVR is pretty neat, and I'm gonna LOVE the extra storage capacity, which was pretty much the whole reason I wanted to switch anyway. Only two drawbacks - can't pause live TV on the client box (but can on primary) - and client box doesn't have a display for channel/time on the front (what were you thinking, Cisco?).
post #6658 of 7386
Thanks for feedback. A couple of followup questions:

1. Did you ask the tech if one can also use another DVR as a client? Word was a while back that you cannot use another DVR as a client which is why I'm wondering. If it's indeed only 1 DVR then Cox M-DVR is basically a 2 tuner only solution.

2. Does DVR have 30 sec skip support (or some other user programmable skip time)?

3. When viewing a DVR recording from a client how bad is the response delay for trick functions like pause, FF, REW, etc. for HD recordings? i.e. It is streaming between DVR and client so there is always more delay compared to viewing directly from DVR.

4. Is esata external storage supported or is the internal 500GB the max you can have?

5. I know the most likely answer to this is most likely no, but is any form of offloading recordings to a PC possible? Does the box have functional firewire port?
post #6659 of 7386
Moyekj, esata external hard drive support is supported. (I have not tested it yet.)

There is a 1394 port on the Cisco box.

There is USB 2.0.

There is ethernet.

I can see the hard drive through the vent holes. They are using the WD Caviar Green Drive, model number WD5000AADS.

I am upset so far as I have not found any skip forward button on the remote control. (Please Pig Vomit, if you see it, post it for me. I really want 30-second skip forward.)

I do like when you search by title, there is an option in the results to only show the high def scheduled time and channel.

The installer insisted that new cable connectors be used and every signal be checked because they are concerned that poor signals (and power levels) can easily cause issues.
post #6660 of 7386
1. Did you ask the tech if one can also use another DVR as a client?

I did not ask and don't know the answer to that.

2. Does DVR have 30 sec skip support (or some other user programmable skip time)?

No.

3. When viewing a DVR recording from a client how bad is the response delay for trick functions like pause, FF, REW, etc. for HD recordings? i.e. It is streaming between DVR and client so there is always more delay compared to viewing directly from DVR.

On the primary box, it's about the same as the old Motorola DVR. On the client, there is significant lag bordering on, but not quite, intolerable.

4. Is esata external storage supported or is the internal 500GB the max you can have?

Others have said that the eSATA will work, but the first 500 gigs goes on the DVR, and only overflow goes to the eSATA. Also, many have experienced problems attempting to play eSATA stored content on the client---it freezes the host, and then the host requires a reboot.

5. I know the most likely answer to this is most likely no, but is any form of offloading recordings to a PC possible? Does the box have functional firewire port?[/quote]

No.

If you want to research the boxes, this is what they installed:

Host: Cisco Explorer 8642HDC
Client: Cisco Explorer 1642HDC

Overall, I'm pretty happy. The extra channels are there. Works well. The lag on the client is a annoying.

You can also view the dedicated thread for Cox Whole Home DVR. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1286642
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