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i read that hd for retro tv is not true hd is only stretched out version, to fill out the screen.

The 'peeps' from NJ politicians about WNET's NJ license have always been pretty loud, and for many years Channel 13 has produced programs from and about NJ even though they achieved minute audiences. Once the NJ Network started up and became the state's non-commercial broadcasting network, the argument for insisting that WNET produce NJ oriented programs became harder to make, but 13 is still bound by its agreements.
WOR, Channel 9, when it was sold and renamed WWOR, was relicensed to NJ so that the state would have a VHF commercial station.

Wikipedia has a pretty good article about 13: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WNET
Here's a quote: Since it still operates on a frequency allocated by the FCC to Newark, WNET has long aired New Jersey-specific programming, a legacy of its agreement with New Jersey state officials that cleared the way for its conversion into New York City's main educational station. Currently, it rebroadcasts New Jersey Network's nightly NJN News, as well as airing Inside Trenton, which WNET co-produces with NJN.

If true, no surprise there. I can think of a new cable nets that have an HD feed with ZERO HD content.

Question: Maybe TRP in VA will know this?

My aunt tells me that 55.1 came on the other night for one night only. It was the same programs as 45.1


As of today Nothing comes on 55.1 and 45.1 is still on the air.

Could this of been a test for a move to 55.1 from current 45.1?

If so why? Is it because the station is called TV55?


thanks guys

it was most likely tropo ducting, i picked up new london ct channel with indoor antenna, the reason is called tv 55 is cos thats what it came in when it broadcasting in analog, I was able to pickup their analog station if i recall

Unlikely. IT's most likely enhancement caused by atmospheric conditions. Summer weather is conducive to this.

in case u haven't already noticed in a digital world , a stations on air identity has nothing to do with it ota channel number

Not ALWAYS the case. Channel 41 for example is 41 on cable and 41.1 on OTA

So why wouldn't a channel called 10/55TV not be on virtual channel 55.1? It is channel 10 on cablevision and channel 55 OTA in LI/NY


I think my question was quite reasonable.

wxtv is on ota 40, wlny is on ota 47. qualcomm owns license for ota 55 nationwide for doomed service flo tv.

Also, I thought WXTV was channel 6 on cable. At least, it is in Fair Lawn NJ.

Translators generally map to major channel numbers of the parent. For example, if the channel 22 transmitter for WCBS ever lights up on Long Island, it will be either 2-1 or 2-2 or something.

But WLNY-CD is not a translator per se, it is licensed as a "Class A" station, and thus can, but is not required to, map the same as its parent station.

- Trip

WXTV is on ch 6 on all Cablevision systems and sister station WFTY/WFUT on 17 after a lawsuit many years back. Before Cablevision consolidated their systems and channel lineups, WXTV appeared on 30 or so different slots in the region making it hard to advertise.

Since then the stations appear on their former analog off air channel numbers of 41 or 67/68 or on 6 & 17 on most cable systems. TWC carries them on 41 & 68, Verizon on 17 & 41, RCN on 6 & 17.

I just spoke with Neil Ardman at RTV Affiliates. RTV will launch on WKOB Daystar in about 10 days which would mean September 3rd.

did he mention what programming schedule for retro tv full time or part time

No, he rushed me off the phone in about 15 seconds, said he was late for a meeting.

Great and most of us can't get the bleeping station. Nice

The schedule is on the website as a pdf file.

yes the schedule is on website, but thats not what i want to know, usually the statiion thats carrying rtv programming shows as many shows as they can afford to. infomercials is where they get their revenue, wsah ch 43 bridgeport ct. use to show retro tv programming for only 4 hours each day, the rest of time was infomercials, in others don't expect retro tv programming 24/7. so hence what is their schedule ?

you have a pair of rabbitears?

Indoor Terk 55 And we get ALL major stations and Subs. 36 total. All the Majors like cbs come in at 95 to 100%

Yes, precisely. Here's an example of the WTEN 10-3 Albany, N.Y. RTV schedule.

You will need a roof antenna.

In an apartment building? Does not exist. The old Giant roof antenna was taken down years ago when the building got a kickback from cable co.

So it is indoor antennas or cable. That is the choice.

To be honest. If I had the time I could try a DB4 or C4. This would be more powerful then the Clearstream C2 I tried.

But the only stations I might get in are the two PBS stations in NJ and WKOB. Wkob will only have one good sub and that is RTV. The DB4 Power will greatly be reduced by being inside. Since the Clearstram made NO difference at all. I can not see the DB4 or C4 making a GIANT difference.

Now if we did not get CBS. NBC, ABC, FOX ect. Then I would say it is worth the try. Plus I have to fight my aunt on why she would need a GIANT Db4 inside her Apartment.

I have the Terk 55 behind the dresser. Hidden. I might try to put some tinfoil on the back of the dresser and see if it helps reflect the signal to the antenna.

If you check my posts in the past. You will see where I list the 36 channels. Including subs

I count us as being lucky. Some here can not get some major stations. we get them all in the 90's to 100%

You think my aunt will make waves? You smoking something funny.

She likes a peaceful life. Not to fight the world for RTV. She is thrilled with 36 channels.

i just tried to get wkob with rabbitears extended to max 40" on each side no go, might try make a long dipole antenna, i think 8 ft would be sufficient? kb21 maybe you should try to move the tv55 stick near the window see what else comes in? just a thought

Ha, ha, I stopped smoking wacky tobaccy about 25 years ago. Sounded as if you were the one who was annoyed you can't receive it. Just thought I'd point out you cannot be denied the right to install an outdoor antenna.


I would be quite surprised if any type indoor antenna picks up WKOB being that it's VHF Channel 2 which is very susceptible to interference in Urban areas unlike the Burbs.

It really is an indication that the FCC did one crappy job when I can receive this beautifully ....

42-1 (02) WKOB-LP Daystar
42-2 WKOB-LP SD2 Daystar
42-3 WKOB-LP SD3 RTV
42-4 WKOB-LP SD4

and rarely receive this ....

2-1 (33) WCBS NY

It is and I am going to leave it. Spent long time to find best position. If RTV wants to cheap and go with WKOB. That is there problem.

As My aunt tells me. She watched most of this stuff when it came out Brand NEW. Why does she need to watch RTV and the same stuff again lol

She does have a point. Listen I would love for her to have RTV. BUt I will not kill myself to get it. They had many better choices for SUBs. They went the cheapest route. I am suprised they did not go even cheaper with 29.1 .2 .3 . 4. 5 .6 .7 .8 .9 GOD knows they got enough subs lol

Now given the choice of RTV or CBS. You would choose?

We get CBS 100% Yes that is correct 100%

So given the other things that I could not be getting. We are in great shape.

Maybe if WKOB moves to UHF We might get it.

You know my aunt is happy with 45.1 now too and THIS TV.

You think a nice Lady is going to CAMP in front of the landlord with a SIGN? GIVE ME MY RTV! lol

I know she has rights. I also know she wants to get along with the whole building. So she would never make any waves. Legal rights or not.


This why I asked Trp in VA if the WKOB was new or already on the air. I was praying it was new. I knew I did not get it.

I am having problems with Channels 4 and 9 the last few days. All other channels are coming in with the usual strength. I have two questions I am hoping someone here can help me with:

1) Any reason why just 4-1,-4-2, 4-4 and 9-1 are coming in poorly the last few days while others are normal?

2) While 9-1 is coming in poorly, 9-2 (which is the SD version of 9-1) is coming in rock-solid??? I have never seen this before where the main channel is breaking up but the sub is crystal clear. Any possible explanations for this?

Thank you in advance.

I'm west of you but I have not seen any changes out here with the stations in question. It could just be weather related for you.

9.2 is transmitted from the same transmitter/antenna as 5.1. So it's signal will be the same as 5.1.

9.1 will be the same as 5.2. As 5.2 is transmitted from the same.

You will see these showing the same signal issues.