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It hasn't been fine here all along. It only started coming in reliably when I put up the super death ray on the tower along with the LNA, feed and phasing line improvements along with proper alignment and tweaks I did over the summer. But as of late there hasn't been any loss of signal from Ion at all, so my comment was more about recent developments not the status quo.

i bet you don't get wliw? i'm thinking that ota is doomed to fail, with all the hype of HD. its a matter of months when fcc is gonna sell of the tv frequencies.

I don't get WLIW. It's way too far.

I guess if I put the antenna 10-20 feet higher and phased 2 more I could probably get it. But it's not in HD so I won't even bother.

The good news is that FCC's not going to sell the frequencies.

The bad news is that they're allowing white space devices.

For whatever reason, (probably just an accident), the video has returned on WKOB's RTV. Continues to be in B&W, (with the exception of the locally inserted commercials), along with the same audio, (surround channel's only), and video glitches.

WNBC has been at 85% power since 9/13.

42-3 Retro TV is running early color of 60',70's shows, and B/W prime time, plus Info-mercial, unfortunately no sound, as said elsewhere about Audio on surround, it means conv. box/Analog TV users have Video but no Audio, you must be stiff bored to watch this junk TV

fcc is looking to free up 120mhz of space to sell. ch31-51

Hey Dude. Antenna TV is slated to run stuff like Three's Company, Married With Children, Sanford & Sons, Too Close for Comfort, Good Times, The Partridge Family, Maude, The Nanny and Benny Hill. Just the kind of stuff that chased me from TVLand years ago!! NOBODY has a line-up of classic Golden-Age television with great prints and sufficient bandwidth like RTV.

the bad news is that they're allowing white space devices.
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yeah dude, but those frequencies (radio frequencies) are taking a hit ;-)

You think so? I don't think so. With white space devices they could accomplish their goals without repacking.

they'll packing alot of devices wireless internet, thats a whole lot to muster in very small spectrum, are you still looking to get another cm 4228 someone ebay is selling one for $45 says new.

Nah not really looking for one but thanks anyway!

Do you guys think if I purchased one of these it would overcome my multi-path issues on CBS and NBC without having to raise my antennas? I currently have a Winegard VHF/UHF 7084P and a Winegard UHF 9095P.

Thanks!

the antenna selling on ebay is cm 4228 old stock. is very hard antenna to get now. is defunct. antenna picks up signals from the back as much as the front. ryan has two cm 4228 old stock he would know better. imo you be better of with yagi type ei. 91xg but it maybe it's overkill you been so close to esb. DFL have you tried installing an fm trap. i use one i have strong fm interference all over here it helps with overly strong signals that oscillate on signal meter. i been tempted to get the cm 4228. it being that is hard to come by. supposedly is the best commercial uhf antenna for deep fringe.

Thank you very much for your comments NYC!! Don't understand how FM frequencies could be interfering with UHF signals, but no, I have not tried an FM trap. It's gonna be expensive for me whether or not I raise my current antennas or opt for this one to replace my Winegard UHF 9095P as I don't have room for 3. I doubt one mast could handle 2 antennas nor could my Channel Master digital rotor. I'd like to hear what Ryan, Trip and others have to say.

BTW, I can't find that $45 auction you referred to, but there are 3 other sellers offering a total of 22 or more of these, so how rare could they be?

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_adv=1&_since=15&_nkw=cm+4228&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=See-All-Categories&_okw=cm+4228&_oexkw=&_adv=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=200&_fpos=Zip+code&_fsct=&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50

I am so disgusted. One of my very favorite CBS shows, NCIS: Los Angeles Season 2 premieres tonight at 9PM with not one but two new episodes and CBS is popping in and out. Looks like I'll be forced to DVHS it off Cablevision's horrible compressed feed. Sooooo frustrating.

Coming in loud and clear here on the Upper East Side.

One of my most reliable stations OTA!

Thanks, that makes me feel real good. Rub it in fella.

It has nothing to do with rubbing it in. It has to do with that the problem is with you not WCBS. That's all!

I know you weren't rubbing it in, and yes it is partially me, however Jeff Birch of CBS told me the North Shore of Long Island and beyond is in a dead zone. Sadly it'll be around 7 or more months if ever until WLIW allows CBS to use their facilities for a channel 22 translator.

Do you really think it's WLIW holding things up by withholding permission?

WNET and WLIW are in serious financial trouble and I would imagine that rent being paid by CBS would come in handy immediately!

I stand corrected. He told me WLIW had already given their permission but for whatever reason it would take that long.

Don't know if you're aware that WCBS has raised its power from 284kW ERP to 333kW.

333kW is an interim level, the Commission has approved 426kW ERP.

The installation of proper transmission lines and work concerning the Combiner at the ESB has held up this final increase in power.

At the end of April this year, the station thought that the necessary work would be completed in 6 months. I have no idea where things stand as of today.

I hope this further increase in power might help you.

I wasn't aware of the technical info, but I do remember Jeff Birch telling me that, however, he also added when it involves multi-path issues, that increase might possibly make things worse rather than better, but I'm hoping for the latter.

Thanks SnellKrell!!

dfl is not that one here http://cgi.ebay.com/Channel-Master-8...item1c158a3867 is large antenna, if you like i sent you a 91xg i have an extra 1 i don't use.

Wow NYC, what a kind offer!!! So this is a different antenna than those listed within this link, http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_adv=1&_since=15&_nkw=cm+4228&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=See-All-Categories&_okw=cm+4228&_oexkw=&_adv=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=200&_fpos=Zip+code&_fsct=&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50? What are it's dimensions?

I really need to do some research and hear some more comments from our resident experts here, such as will this antenna overcome my current multi-path issues? I'm also concerned about wind resistance as well after last Friday's Tornados. My antennas are now 15 ft. high at the peak of a very steep roof. When I moved them 2 condo roofs over last Nov-Dec, (the roofer destroyed both of my old antennas), they were previously 20 & 25 ft. respectively, thus my concern, and most likely the culprit behind my current problems receiving NBC and specifically CBS, not to mention my condo board potentially giving me a hard time with the aesthetic appearance of this monster fence 25 ft. up.

Hopefully some more folks will chime in. Thanks very much!!

I have the previous version the plain CM4228 with a cm 7777 preamp. IT seems to work very well for me. The CM4228HD is basically the same design. Each of us are probably in very different reception situations and so it is hard to say what works for one person will work for another. From all of my research this antenna and the 7777 preamp are high up on the list of the best of the best.

I don't think you will find too many antennas that will stay up in a tornado. Plus we are not in a tornado prone area and they are very isolated to touching down in specific streets and not a widespread event like a hurricane.

We have had some pretty good wind from thunderstorms etc and my antenna has not budged.

I must add that I have tinkered with a Gray-Hoverman GH6 home built with Narods and combined with a 7777 preamp it performs as well as the CM4228. If you are at all handy and want to try a fun project I would recommend it.

I'm not so sure of that. WCBS-33, usually one of my strongest signals was pretty terrible this week. I didn't have full dropouts but I had a few times where it started to tile. Everything else was as normal.

It could just be weather... I suppose?

I have two of the old 4228 (called the 4228A). They work very well, phased together with a Winegard SD 3700 and twin lead to eliminate balun losses. It does radiate out the back but that can be fixed by tying the screens together with tywraps.

However, the new 4228HD is a step down. The UHF reception was compromised to make the VHF reception better.

I have no more need to buy OTA antennas really. If I'm replacing the 4228A stack I'll go with a pair of XG91s or similar.

Is cablevision really adding compression to OTA signals? Have you measured this, or are you just speculating?