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post #12901 of 16598


greed is good
post #12902 of 16598
I wonder what's going on in OTA air space, until recently when I did Add Scan on one of
my boxes, it would go to ch.51 top then, after 5 min. 2passes search, sign off to 2-1
Now, about 5min. 2passes it goes to 60,61, 66, 67 then sign off to cbs2-1, that is indication of extra curricular activity in OTA air space which did not exist 2 weeks ago, anybody knows ?
post #12903 of 16598
To amend what I posted recently about the transmitting masts atop 4 Times Square in Manhattan...what is the white mast on the right used for in this picture?

http://www.snapgalaxy.com/KL71/photos/1213978
post #12904 of 16598
The perspective of the picture leads you to believe that the mast to the right is on 4TS.

It's not. It's the spire atop the new Verizon Building on 6th Avenue.

And I believe this spire is purely decorative.
post #12905 of 16598
It was looking east down West 42nd Street. I was standing near the north entrance of the Port Authority Bus Terminal.
post #12906 of 16598
And here is a picture of the Verizon Building at 6th Avenue and W. 42nd St.!


http://img2.photographersdirect.com/.../pd2059370.jpg
post #12907 of 16598
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

And here is a picture of the Verizon Building at 6th Avenue and W. 42nd St.!

http://img2.photographersdirect.com/.../pd2059370.jpg

that's the bank of America building. the building on the
left used to be verizon but was sold a few years ago.
post #12908 of 16598
I stand and sit corrected.

Trying to decipher my latest phone bill, I had Verizon on my mind.

Nevertheless, that's the other mast that I believe KML-224 saw.
post #12909 of 16598
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

The perspective of the picture leads you to believe that the mast to the right is on 4TS.

It's not. It's the spire atop the new Verizon Building on 6th Avenue.

And I believe this spire is purely decorative.

i don't like to look up when i'm strutting my stuff in manhattan i hate 2 contradict anyone, that building its bank america
post #12910 of 16598
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Originally Posted by johnosolis View Post

(1) I'm in zip 11206 with DB2 indoors and on ground floor (!!) facing South (!!)and can reliably get: 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11 (must reorient the antenna), 13, 17 (who cares?), 25, 31, 34, 39, 41 (sometimes need to reorient), 45, 47, 64 (breaks up a lot), 68. We speak Spanish too, so the Spanish stations are great for movies. No NJ stations. VHF is tough (on 11).

(2) Desktop was ASUS on sale at Best Buy last week for $699. (ASUS is not a brand I'm familiar with, but I'm told most computers are assembled from the same parts anyway and I don't use customer support or rely on warranties). Staples had nothing similar. PC Richard had Dell with same specs, but with Blu-Ray and wireless printing for about $250 more.

actually staples has a good deal on medium budget pc. http://www.staples.com/HP-Pavilion-p...a=WEEKLY+DEALS
post #12911 of 16598
Could someone provide an update to this 2003 4 Times Square Antenna Project article which nycdigital09 posted, like what if any OTA channels are currently broadcasting from this facility, or which ones are planning to?

Thanks!!
post #12912 of 16598
Recently I sent one of my DVHS decks in for repair to the JVC Cypress, CA. repair facility. I just noticed they did a rescan on the built-in OTA tuner. This is what it shows.

2-1 KCBS
4-1 NBC-4LA
4-2 WX+ NR
4-4 USN
5-1 KTLA-DT
5-2 This TV
7-1 KABC-DT
7-2 LivWell
7-3 KABC-WN
9-1 KCAL-DT
11-1 KTTV DT
11-2 FOX SD
11-3 Fox SD2
13-1 KCOP DT
18-1 LA18.1
18-2 LA18.2
18-3 LA18.3
18-4 LA18.4
18-5 LA18.5
18-6 LA18.6
18-7 LA18.7
18-8 LA18.8
22-1 KWHY
23-4 AVX
28-1 KCET-HD
28-2 KCET-OC
28-3 KCET-Vm
28-4 KCETW
30-1 ION
30-2 qubo
30-3 IONLife
31-1 KVMD-DT
31-4 VYV-TV
31-5 Skylink
31-6 Berea-V
31-7 TBWTV
31-8 WCETV
31-9 KVMDDT9
31-10 Italian
34-1 KMEX-DT
35-1 KTAV-LD
35-2 KTAV-LD
35-4 KTAV
35-5 KTAV-LD
40-1 TBN
40-2 TCC
40-3 JCTV
40-4 Enlace
40-5 SOAC
44-1 KXLA-DT
44-2 V-TV
44-3 Sk-DTV
44-4 LSTV
44-5 ARIRANG
44-6 IAVC
44-7 NTDTV
44-8 ICN
44-9 IMPACTO
46-1 KFTR-DT
46-2 KFTR-SD
50-1 KOCE-HD
50-2 KOCE-OC
50-3 Daystar
52-1 KVEA-HD
54-1 KAZA DT
54-2 KAZA D2
56-1 KDOC-SD
56-2 ESNE
57-1 KJLA-DT
57-2 LATVNET
57-3 KBC-TV
57-4 SET
57-5 SGTV
57-6 VBS-TV
57-7 VYV-DT
57-8 KVMD-DT
57-9 ZWTV
58-1 KLCS-DT
58-2 KLCS-DT
58-3 KLCS-DT
58-4 KLCS-DT
62-1 KRCA-DT
62-2 HTTV US
62-3 VIDA
62-4 IMIGRAN
63-1 KBEH-DT
63-2 KBEH-DT
63-3 KBEH-DT
63-4 KBEH-DT
63-5 KBEH-DT


Can you imagine the picture quality of all those sub-channels on 18, 31, 44 and 57???
post #12913 of 16598
ch5 and 9 will be dropping simulcasts of each other in the coming days. dont know the reason, i just know that its happening.
post #12914 of 16598
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadFormatLover View Post

Could someone provide an update to this 2003 4 Times Square Antenna Project article which nycdigital09 posted, like what if any OTA channels are currently broadcasting from this facility, or which ones are planning to?

Thanks!!

Courtesy of Trip at RabbitEars.info

Note that WABC, WXTV and WFUT use 4TS as a backup transmission location.


Channel Call Sign City of License ASRN AGL Record Type HAAT Power

7-1 (7) WABC-TV NEW YORK, NY 1238745 972' DX‑CP 971' 11 kW ND

25-1 (24) WNYE-TV NEW YORK, NY 1238745 1014' DT‑LIC 1016' 151 kW ND

41-1 (40) WXTV-DT PATERSON, NJ 1238745 1053' DX‑CP 1053' 200 kW DA

64-1 (25) WASA-LD PORT JERVIS, NY 1238745 887' LD‑LIC 885' 15 kW DA

68-1 (30) WFUT-DT NEWARK, NJ 1238745 1014' DX‑CP 1014' 80 kW ND
post #12915 of 16598
I'm in central NJ. Tonight I've totally lost 7.1, 11.1, and 13.1. I'm getting less than 20% signal on all of them all of a sudden. Others like 2.1, 4.1 and 5.1 are coming in strong as ever.

Whatever it is must have happened very recently as a show recorded off 7.1 at 4:00 on my MythTV system this afternoon no problem.

Is there anything going on that anyone's aware of that might be causing this??

Thanks
Tom
post #12916 of 16598
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

Courtesy of Trip at RabbitEars.com

.Info, man, .Info!

- Trip
post #12917 of 16598
Yet another senior moment!

Trip, my apologies!!!!!
post #12918 of 16598
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

Courtesy of Trip at RabbitEars.info

Note that WABC, WXTV and WFUT use 4TS as a backup transmission location.

Channel Call Sign City of License ASRN AGL Record Type HAAT Power

7-1 (7) WABC-TV NEW YORK, NY 1238745 972' DX‑CP 971' 11 kW ND

25-1 (24) WNYE-TV NEW YORK, NY 1238745 1014' DT‑LIC 1016' 151 kW ND

41-1 (40) WXTV-DT PATERSON, NJ 1238745 1053' DX‑CP 1053' 200 kW DA

64-1 (25) WASA-LD PORT JERVIS, NY 1238745 887' LD‑LIC 885' 15 kW DA

68-1 (30) WFUT-DT NEWARK, NJ 1238745 1014' DX‑CP 1014' 80 kW ND

Thank you SnellKrell, and especially to the master, Trip!!!!

I was hoping someone would have said CBS and NBC were moving there.
post #12919 of 16598
Quote:
Originally Posted by tld View Post

I'm in central NJ. Tonight I've totally lost 7.1, 11.1, and 13.1. I'm getting less than 20% signal on all of them all of a sudden. Others like 2.1, 4.1 and 5.1 are coming in strong as ever.

Whatever it is must have happened very recently as a show recorded off 7.1 at 4:00 on my MythTV system this afternoon no problem.

Is there anything going on that anyone's aware of that might be causing this??

Thanks
Tom

All coming in as powerful as always here.
post #12920 of 16598
Hi. I just found out, from another source, that WKOB has RetroTV. I saw on rabbitears.info that they have an antenna on Trump Tower and in Orange, NJ? If that's true, I am basically right in the middle of the two and I can't receive this station at all. What gives?
post #12921 of 16598
Quote:
Originally Posted by nycdigital09 View Post

keyboard 21 whats doing bud ?

Sorry been busy.
post #12922 of 16598
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post

Hi. I just found out, from another source, that WKOB has RetroTV. I saw on rabbitears.info that they have an antenna on Trump Tower and in Orange, NJ? If that's true, I am basically right in the middle of the two and I can't receive this station at all. What gives?

Most of us can't get this Low power Station. No real programing except now RTV. which is not working well at the moment. B7W and sound issues. Plus WPIX might get Antenna TV that Tribune (parent Co) Is coming out Jan 3rd.

That will blow RTV out of the water.

Of Course it is always nice to have an extra channel. RTV made a bad choice in WKOB. imo
post #12923 of 16598
Quote:
Originally Posted by keyboard21 View Post

Most of us can't get this Low power Station. No real programing except now RTV. which is not working well at the moment. B7W and sound issues. Plus WPIX might get Antenna TV that Tribune (parent Co) Is coming out Jan 3rd.

That will blow RTV out of the water.

Of Course it is always nice to have an extra channel. RTV made a bad choice in WKOB. imo

to reiterate what keyboard has said, most of us ota users can't pickup wkob, is because its on real channel ch2, not 42.1 mind you, which necetates the viewer to use a large antenna that uses a dipole of around 8 ft in length, also as stated before its on very low power.
post #12924 of 16598
LOL, why bother operating a TV station nobody can receive? As for RTV, I had it briefly on FIOS via CT channel WSAH. It was horrible, because the audio was constantly out of sync, and the video kept having this red tint. WSAH and FIOS techs pointed the finger at each other, and then WSAH dropped RTV abruptly. RTV has skirted like I said around NYC with these cruddy affiliates. I guess you get what you pay for? Unfortunately, WNYW/WWOR waste their sub channels on each other for coverage holes. RTV won't be allowed on any PBS sub, so they don't have many choices.

I like watching This.TV on WPIX once in a while on my PC and the spare SDTV that has an OTA box. I don't see how WPIX could add another subchannel, though, their picture quality is already fairly compromised. Unfortunately FIOS doesn't carry WPIX-3. I emailed both This and WPIX and received no response whatsoever.
post #12925 of 16598
Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post

As for RTV, I had it briefly on FIOS via CT channel WSAH. It was horrible, because the audio was constantly out of sync, and the video kept having this red tint. WSAH and FIOS techs pointed the finger at each other, and then WSAH dropped RTV abruptly.

It was RTV's fault. That's why WSAH dropped them, because it made them (WSAH) look bad to people like you.

- Trip
post #12926 of 16598
Whenever I went upstate to my summer home, I watched RTV on 10.3 WTEN-DT Albany, and I never noticed any problems as far as audio or video, so I'm surprised to hear of all the problems here, that is if you are lucky to even get a signal.
post #12927 of 16598
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

It was RTV's fault. That's why WSAH dropped them, because it made them (WSAH) look bad to people like you.

- Trip

Actually it was not RTV's fault. It was WSAH or FIOS, because FIOS users in CT reported that WSAH OTA was fine. The connection to Verizon was the problem. WSAH was paying for RTV, and I think they cheaped out.
post #12928 of 16598
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

It was RTV's fault. That's why WSAH dropped them, because it made them (WSAH) look bad to people like you.

- Trip

Hi Trip. I have to agree with Greg2600. When RTV was on WSAH, though most of the time I wasn't viewing it OTA but on Dishnet, I rarely if ever saw any problems with either the video or the audio. I would tend to believe in the case of WKOB, it is their problem and not RTV's.

42-1 (02) WKOB Daystar
42-2 WKOB-LP SD2 Daystar
42-3 WKOB-LP SD3 RTV
42-4 WKOB-LP SD4


When you tune to 42-1 WKOB Daystar or 42-2 WKOB-LP SD2 Daystar at least 50% of the time or more you see a blue circular image with the words "No Signal!" below it, (as it was about 30 minutes ago.) Sometimes this goes on for days at a time. Also, 42-2 WKOB-LP SD2 Daystar has the same video strobing and glitches which 42-3 WKOB-LP SD3 RTV has. If ever there was a service that deserves to be yanked off-air by the FCC, WKOB is it!!!

RTV first launched on WKOB Sept. 9th. If all of you check out the RTV Facebook page, (click logo), you'll see many folks are receiving RTV, (many more cannot), and complaining about these issues going on 19 days now. I have the Winegard VHF/UHF 7084P, a very large antenna, but I don't believe one this large is needed to receive WKOB, (of course this depends on your distance and elevation from the transmission site.)



Trip, perhaps you can explain why when I manually DVR RTV, (there is no PSIP info for each program, just says RTV in blocks), the video strobing and glitches disappears for the most part when playing back the event, but recently the audio is now 2 seconds behind the video.

The current RTV NY Schedule unless WKOB doesn't opt out of their new Saturday morning programming like WVUE in New Orleans has.
post #12929 of 16598
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Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post


Actually it was not RTV's fault. It was WSAH or FIOS, because FIOS users in CT reported that WSAH OTA was fine. The connection to Verizon was the problem. WSAH was paying for RTV, and I think they cheaped out.

fios just became available in ct in past couple of weeks so I don't see how users in ct complained when rtv was on wsah. in any event wsah has always been low quality infomercial garbage that no one will ever watch regardless of how good or bad it looks.
post #12930 of 16598
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Originally Posted by tld View Post

I'm in central NJ. Tonight I've totally lost 7.1, 11.1, and 13.1. I'm getting less than 20% signal on all of them all of a sudden. Others like 2.1, 4.1 and 5.1 are coming in strong as ever.

Whatever it is must have happened very recently as a show recorded off 7.1 at 4:00 on my MythTV system this afternoon no problem.

Is there anything going on that anyone's aware of that might be causing this??

Thanks
Tom

Channel 7 is as strong as ever in the 90's. Channel 11 if fair in the low 60's but keeps dropping in the 50's. Don't get me started on channel 13. It has the most sucktastic reception ever. Last couple of weeks I got it good but no now I want to watch the Baseball special in HD but instead I just get a black screen with a low signal strength. Or I get a downconverted SD centercut picture on Dish. Just take it off the air because there reception just sucks. Now I will hear but I get it in the 90's well good for you.
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